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#101
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Dragon Age Inquisition had a blanket party and was beaten senseless, tactless, unrecognizable, and brainless by giant "PC sticks". The game never took place in the Dragon Age universe, period.

 

Discuss.

 

Excuse me for buying the legendary edition for the XBOX 360?



#102
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Not the thread.. The whole BSN!

"For I have seen the throne of the mods.. And it was empty!"

 

This is the closest to a slow-clapping image I have, since I like to keep the Dragon Age theme going if I can. Hopefully this post doesn't get deleted :whistle:

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This is the closest to a slow-clapping image I have, since I like to keep the Dragon Age theme going if I can. Hopefully this post doesn't get deleted :whistle:
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#104
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I honestly feel anti-gay people think a little too much about gay sex and gayness and 'lifestyle choices' and yet won't yell at someone smoking in front of small children.

There are aspects of the game which did feel forced such as the way Krem was handled. Okay, he's a transman, but putting in dialogue explaining trans identities is not the best way to get your message across and just makes bigots even more bigotty. Gaider said it somewhere that LGBT issues are hard to write about because you are essentially battling with everyone and their grandma - you want to educate so you can please members of the LGBT community, you want to be subtle so the anti-LGBT don't reduce the character to their LGBT-ness and don't rage on and conflate a small mention of LGBT-ness into TEH WHOLE GAME IS GAY AGENDAAA and you also want to attempt to capture as accurate a portrait of LGBT which is friggen hard. Because we are basically, well, human. Meaning we're unique. How do you portray an Asian in a film while not being racist, satisfy Asians and without being too confronting to anti-Asian bigots? It's a really tough thing to do.

I'm a post-grad and SRC rep for the Queer Society at this torture den called 'university' and 99% of all the gamey people have played DAI and some love Dorian and others hate him. Why do they hate him? Because he feeds into a stereotype, because he's sooooo camp, because he whines, because I'M NOT THAT KIND OF GAY PERSON. Which basically makes me bash my head on something because you look at some of the LGBT community and you find people who are just like Dorian as well as people who aren't like him at all. You really can't please everyone is the bottom line and the best thing to do is just give them less air time.

While you can't really object to Dorian's sexuality, you can basically shut down conversation about it in a way that suggests disgust. Playing a mean character doesn't mean petty insults, in fact, I've yet to find a quality RPG that does that. It would be crappy script writing if it did that. Heck, even Skyrim didn't resort to petty jabs.

But what I'd like to know...why is DAI being targeted for being so PC when we have had a multitude of LGBT characters in games (looking at you The Last of Us)? Honestly, I sometimes feel Bioware fans are the worst at times. I've yet to see anyone call out Fallout: New Vegas for being PC where two of your companions are gay/lesbian and you can't be a D to them about it, or even Skyrim's marriages. But the PC criticism is rife with DAI.


Sorry for quoting your entire message. My phone is a pain to use.

About the feeling forced part,yeah the game foes feel like that in several places. And this type of criticism gets lost or drowned out when a straight person brings it up because people get their hackles up and think the person is like the idiot steam user in the OP.

On one hand Bioware gives us a codex saying lbgt is no big deal in Thedas and then give the Inquisition the option to ask dumb questions like does it bother you that Krem is a woman, for the sole purpose of having Bull give us a lecture on why it's not a big deal. Another is if you play a feminq you can ask the dutchess if people would think it's strange if 2 women dance together. Heck out here in the real world Noone around me would think that's strange. Yet it's there, and if you choose it bam! Another lecture and massive court approval loss.

It's like Bioware added lbgt content to educate us ignorant straight people rather than to give fair representation to lbgt people. It's a bit insulting to those of us who are not ignorant bigots.
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Excuse me for buying the legendary edition for the XBOX 360?


Not hat PC. Heh

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Player Character sticks? Personal Comp- ohhh. Should've just said "SJW sticks." Yeah, I didn't get that- too busy getting involved in sweeping lore shifts and the like. Frankly, if the devs were more actively implementing their "PC" political bent, it still makes for an interesting world to explore, fleshed out and such, since the challenge is to make it immersive regardless. The big, bad meanies weren't all white guys against all non-white women heroes or anything, and, for instance, Krem was one of the coolest characters- Androgynous Pat in armor with a badass 'tude.

 

Well. That's actually the case in one instance. Apparently the only good people in Tevinter are the LGBT community. Dorian, Maevaris, Krem, are basically the only Tevinters that have been portrayed positively, well there is Felix too who may or may not be straight but gets very quickly dead.

 

Even better, as of the end of Trespasser a gay man and transwoman basically create a reform party to take on the evils of Tevinter's Patriarchy Magocracy. Subtle much? :whistle:  


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#107
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You know, I'm kind of hoping that Dorian and Maevaris get together in DA4. Simply because it would make a lot of people go, "Ewww."

 

Sometimes, this forum, man...



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You know, I'm kind of hoping that Dorian and Maevaris get together in DA4. Simply because it would make a lot of people go, "Ewww."

 

Sometimes, this forum, man...

 

Dorian is pretty clear on the fact that he's not into women.



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"Now is the hour of our victory. Slay the off-topic!"

"Help me!"

 

"Keep the off-topic still."


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What's funny is that the hatred of gays goes in cycles. I mean Ancient Rome and Greece were okay with gay relations. You didn't marry them, but you sure had lots of sex. If they were slaves no one gave a ****. Gay sex has been going since forever. People need to get over it.

IIRC the Spartans were cool with butt stuff.