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[The Ascendant]

As we are now aware the Elven Pantheon, or Creators were not Gods, as we would perceive or compare to the Maker in the world of DA. They were very powerful elven mages, but what made them so unique? Were they possessed mages who became more like spirits than mortals as time went on or what? Feel free to discuss and talk.

[Reznore57]

I think what made them unique is their first war.

Elgar'nan defeated a Godlike figure , his father "The Sun" ...When he beat up the "Sun" something bad happened (all went dark) Mythal came to the rescue calm down Elgar'nan , and basically they tamed the "Sun".

 

Now the very interesting thing is...I don't really know what the "Sun" is , but The Sun is also the symbol of the Maker , the ultimate Creator ,at least when it comes to fade related Creatures (The Maker didn't create the dwarf according to Wynne).

The next very interesting thing is...in  one of Solas's fresco , you can see the Sun , and in another you see the Golden City (Seat of the Maker ) replacing the Sun.

 

I think the Evanuris , at least the oldest ones , such as Mythal and Elgar'nan defeated a Primeval God , stole part of its power , and created some sort of mockery as a symbol of this victory:The Golden City.

I imagine that's when the first sign of Blight appeared , the "darkness" the "first sin" , although those ancient elves were crafty and managed to contain the threat.

Well until their whole civilisation fell to pieces because they were prideful and stupid .

Like Flemeth says in DAO , true darkness lies in the heart of men.

[Gervaise]

There is some reference to the ancient elves burying something in  the earth and shutting it away because it was bad.     I wonder if that was the original taint.   The dwarves have always claimed that the Blight didn't come from the Magisters entering the Black city but was already there.    However, it also occurs to me that in Descent we actually go inside a Titan and someone in the party mentions how there is a whole city in there.   So if the Evanuris corrupted a Titan in some way, so it became corrupt and red lyrium started flowing in its veins instead of the shining silver stuff, that would explain a lot.   May be in certain lights it had originally looked golden. The Black City in the Fade could be a reflection of it and when you go there, you get whisked off underground, thus explaining why the darkspawn originated from there rather than the surface.

 

Anyway, I digress and am going off topic.    Someone has stated that Cole mentions something about Solas being originally a spirit like him who took material form.    I've never heard this myself and don't know when he says it.   However, if true, then it could well be the Evanuris were the same.   In fact it could be true of all elves.    Just as there are currently spirits of varying power in the Fade, so there were elves of varying ability in ancient times.       Solas also says their transformation in the eyes of their followers from leaders, to generals, to kings, to gods, started because of a war.    I am still not clear who they were fighting in this war but it seems like an outside influence and not each other. 

 

There also seems some suggestion that the more followers they had, the more powerful they became.   This is why Falon'Din started trying to force elves to worship him and slaughtered them when they refused.  May be others did the same.   Then when Mythal finally stepped in and tried to stop them, that's when they murdered her.   I did find it odd where Solas is meant to be telling his followers that the Evanuris are not gods but just a mortal as them, when he admits that elves effectively were immortal and that the reason he didn't just kill off the other Evanuris is that he couldn't be sure they would stay dead.

 

Even before Trespasser I suspected the Creators were not gods as we think of them but probably very powerful spirits that had adopted material form, so I'm going to stick with that until its proven to the contrary.   May be the more material they became, the greater their potential for corruption.    Mind you we only have Solas' word that they were all a bad lot and collectively responsible for what happened to Mythal and let's face it, he could be a bit biased.     Elgar'nan and Falon'Din seem the most likely candidates but I wouldn't mind having a bit more clarification from an independent source.   Abelas only said that the Dread Wolf wasn't responsible for her death but didn't actually divulge who was.

[Lumix19]

When Solas calls them "the first of my people", perhaps they truly were the first of the Elvhen.

[Bad King]

When Solas calls them "the first of my people", perhaps they truly were the first of the Elvhen.

 

Yeah, and perhaps they were the ones (as Dalish legend suggests) who taught the early elves all of the knowledge they needed to construct their civilisation e.g Sylaise and June who taught them various crafts. It also sounds like they were immensely powerful - strong enough to transform nature (e.g Ghilan'nain who created and destroyed various species of animal) and magically talented enough to be considered gods by the ancient elves who were themselves highly talented in magic. They might thus be considered gods according to the Oxford English Dictionary's second definition of "god":

 

(In certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

 

When Solas states that he doesn't consider them gods, he's using the typical monotheistic definition of godhood:

 

(In Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

 

This second definition prioritises absolute supremacy including omnipotence and omniscience. I however believe that both definitions are relevant and thus would still consider the Evanuris gods in that they do appear to have had superhuman power and did have unique powers over nature and human (elven) fortunes.