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[Star Reborn]

The ancient dwarves from "The Descent" where honoring the blue lyrium "Titan", and its blue lyrium, while the dead ancient dwarves of the other "Primeval Thaig" of the Free Marches worshiped the Red Idol. Blue, and red Lyrium. The red lyrium is not mentaly or physically healthy to the modern dwarves, and thins the veil. While the Blue Lyrium gives modern dwarves super powers, (and unexplined upgrades?).

 

Lyrium is more than meets the eye. The Fade is the Memory of thedas, or its mind.

 

The Fade is the Mind of "Thedas", while the Body of "Thedas" is its Physical Earth. (which is made by Titans, which are progenitors of Dwarves?).

 

There is Lyrium in both worlds, or halves of the one world, since both worlds were once one. In myth the Maker separeted them, but now we know Fen Harel separeted them. Separated the mind from the body, making the "Elves" loose "Immortality", for using the veil to seal away the Evanaris in the Fade. These could be the demons in human myth. We know that elves transformed into these things, with the example from the Forbidden Ones. These foes in human legend wispered to the Human mages.

 

Lyrium is like the physical manefestation of Magic, which I think is the life of Thedas, since Lyrium is also the Blood of these Titans which make up Thedas.

[BansheeOwnage]

Neither red nor blue lyrium is healthy for anyone, but they both give you power. The Sha-Brytol were almost mindless slaves, similar to the Red Templars. Perhaps the dwarves' natural resistance to lyrium is what kept the Sha-Brytol from going completely insane, even if they were still broken?

[Absafraginlootly]

Certainly the revelation that lyrium is the blood of the titans would imply that there is a blighted titan somewhere that initially started producing it.

[Star Reborn]

Certainly the revelation that lyrium is the blood of the titans would imply that there is a blighted titan somewhere that initially started producing it.

But the red idol, (where I presume all redlyrium spawned) was there before the first blight. I think lyrium is more than meets the eye.

[BansheeOwnage]

But the red idol, (where I presume all redlyrium spawned) was there before the first blight. I think lyrium is more than meets the eye.

Not necessarily. We don't know where the taint comes from. It may come from (a creature?) somewhere in the abyss, and the reason we didn't have blights was because it took a long time to infect enough female dwarves (since presumably the first broodmothers were dwarves) to spread. Also, it's possible (though it's not what I personally think) that red lyrium is simply the blood of a dead Titan. Similarly to how our blood would coagulate and decay after death, the Titan's blood could as well, which could account for its song being chaotic and "angry" instead of a harmony.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Red lyrics could be from the titan Mythal killed.

[BansheeOwnage]

Red lyrics could be from the titan Mythal killed.

Indeed, if it is dead blood, that's what I was thinking too.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

And my silly phone converted lyrium to lyrics lol

[Pallando]

Blue Lyrium => control

Red Lyrium => destroy

 

Will we ever see green lyrium... ?

 

[Big I]

Blue Lyrium => control

Red Lyrium => destroy

 

Will we ever see green lyrium... ?

 

 

There may be some in the Hissing Wastes. There are green rocks near fade rifts that sort of look like lyrium.

[Star Reborn]

[Mirrman70]

The elves killed titans and then overmined their lyrium before the veil was made. They stopped after something bad happened with it. Perhaps the elves were experimenting with the lyrium and accidentally created the blight. They maybe then quarantined the blighted evanuris in one of their fade cities (golden city). The blight was completely forgotten due to the veil being made.

[ModernAcademic]

The main question is: where did the Corruption come from?

 

Because once that is known, then all answers regarding to the origin of Red Lyrium, Darkspawn, the Black City and the Blight will follow.

[Pallando]

There may be some in the Hissing Wastes. There are green rocks near fade rifts that sort of look like lyrium.

 

Oh right! There are topics about that indeed! Thank you for pointing that out!

I forgot about those weird crystals in the Hissing Wastes...

[Bhryaen]

 

Dwarvern souls go back to the Titans.

Thanks a lot for this link. Fantastic exploration of DA lore through all three games, tying things together I'd never considered related. Looks like it was made just before Trespasser though, so I'll have to look for her follow-up.

[PillarBiter]

If blue lyrium is titan blood, does this mean solid lyrium which we mine is nothing but crusted scabs of titan blood?

 

 

Ew.

[azarhal]

If blue lyrium is titan blood, does this mean solid lyrium which we mine is nothing but crusted scabs of titan blood?

 

 

Ew.

 

Less or more...

[Navasha]

hmm...   this topic sparked my lore speculation. 

 

Lyrium = lifeblood of titans.  Maybe the blight was actually started when the ancient elves ripped out that titans heart?   Its blood without its heart became corrupted?  Red Lyrium was not infected by the blight then, but actually the source!    I already think that those foci orbs are the hearts of titans, which is what the ancient elves used to obtain godhood levels of power. 

[Jandi]

It was stated somewhere that the red stuff has the Blight and since Lyrium is the blood of Titans, it means that a Titan was blighted at some point. My guess is that the Titan Mythal fought was either infected by "something" by accident or intentionally to kill it.

 

Mythal is probably involved in the Blight somehow regardless because in DA:O she says she can keep it away with her Magic, Wether that is something only she can do or not is not known.

 

Another thing is that the red stuff is in the fade as well, you can see it around when you go there physically... near the Black City. It's possible that Solas used Red Lyrium to create the Veil in the first place, which would explain why the City is Blighted but I don't think the Blight originated form there, because how could it get there after the veil was put up? Don't see how, so it stands to reason that the Red Lyrium existed prior to the veil, meaning the Blight existed prior to the Veil.

[Poledo]

Certainly the revelation that lyrium is the blood of the titans would imply that there is a blighted titan somewhere that initially started producing it.

 

Interesting. Would said Titan then be responsible for the Blight?

[Xiltas]

Interesting. Would said Titan then be responsible for the Blight?

 

Depends how you define "responsible". I'd rather think of it as "Patient Zero", since I believe the Titan was infected by the Elves.

[TobiTobsen]

Just this morning I posted something similar on the dwarven thread regarding the dwarves from Kal-Sharok. I'll just quote myself because I think it fits rather well into the thematic of this thread:

 

 

Something crossed my mind. Excuse me if my writing is all over the place, I'm writing this down as I further carry on the line of thought.

 

We know that Kal-Sharok dwarves have some connection to the Blight. They are always hooded, the orlesian merchant that met one of them thought that "their isolation is not because of fear, and certainly not disinterest." (maybe self-quarantine?) and he immediately made a connection with Grey Wardens and Darkspawn when he got a look at the face of the dwarf.

 

Kal-Sharok is blighted. A rather cut and dried explanation, right?

 

But after seeing the Sha-Brytol

 

Spoiler

 

I'm asking myself: Is it really that simple? If Kal-Sharok is blighted: Why aren't they dead yet? Or ghouls? And if you look at the faces of the Sha-Brytol: Don't they look a bit darkspawn-y?

 

The blood of the Titans, Lyrium, "created" the Sha-Brytol and we know that Red Lyrium, the seemingly corrupted version, is having a rather shitty effect on anybody that gets affected by it.

 

So I took a look at the Red Templars:

 

Spoiler

 

The archer; his face looks pretty close to what we've seen as early stages of ghoulification, doesn't it? And the knight looks pretty close to a Hurlock in Templar armor, if you ask me.

 

The archdemons are sleeping somewhere in or beneath the Deep Roads. The Darkspawn came from the Deep Roads. We now know that the Titans are somewhere beneath the Deep Roads.

Lyrium/Titans sing to the dwarves. The archdemon sings to the darkspawn. Red Lyrium victims hear a "song". Red Lyrium spreads like the blighted lands and was "first" found in some ancient dwarven Thaig. 

 

That leads me back to my initial point: Maybe Kal-Sharok is a step further than Orzammar and Shaper Valta. Maybe they already found or know of Titans? Maybe even the origin of the Red Lyrium and/or the Blight? Maybe red lyrium and the blight have some Titan as their source? Maybe one that was affected differently by Solas creation of the veil and corrupted his dwarf immune system?

 

 

I'm just rambling at this point and maybe I need to put on my tinfoil hat and step away, but the closer I look the more connections I see.