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Next time, Bioware, can we please have a hero who doesn't lose in the end?


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Al Foley

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Let's see....

My Inquisitor now leads the honour guard for Cass (who she is very good friends with) is married to Cullen who is still her commander, is still friends and keeps in contact with Leli as she raises Harding, Ractor and Charter as successors, has titles and holdings in kirkwall and is a very good friend with Varric who is viscount, is very good friends with Sera and does regular Jenny work with her, still keeps in contact with her good friend Dorian with only Josie, Blackwall and Vivie doing their own things now. She still has her contacts and is now foucvisng on protecting Cass and stopping Solas and the only downside is she lost her lower left arm.

 

I'm sorry but this is the best ending that any Bioware hero has had imo.

Given where my Inky came from in my head canon she rather did gain a lot.  When you put it in these terms, what good is a hand?



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I'm sorry but this is the best ending that any Bioware hero has had imo.

I agree, not only for the hero, but it was one of the best Bioware endings ever. Only Dragon Age Origins could be the rival of that ending. I like it when our hero actually gets a real fleshed out villain to contend with going forward. Solas gave me new hope for the future of Dragon Age, and less hope for Thedas :(



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Given where my Inky came from in my head canon she rather did gain a lot.  When you put it in these terms, what good is a hand?

 

Is it your fapping hand?

 

Seriously though, my objection really centers around the fact that it is already established magic can regrow limbs. This isn't like ASOIAF where Jaime gets his hand chopped off and its gone for good end of story. Meaning Bioware has basically decided that the Inquisitor chooses to remain an amputee for no particular reason.   

 

EDIT: Really that's censored  :?


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Is it your ****** hand?

 

Seriously though, my objection really centers around the fact that it is already established magic can regrow limbs. This isn't like ASOIAF where Jaime gets his hand chopped off and its gone for good end of story. Meaning Bioware has basically decided that the Inquisitor chooses to remain an amputee for no particular reason.   

Easy, the mark did unrepairable damage, we ARE dealing with ancient powerful elven magic.


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Is it your ****** hand?

 

Seriously though, my objection really centers around the fact that it is already established magic can regrow limbs. This isn't like ASOIAF where Jaime gets his hand chopped off and its gone for good end of story. Meaning Bioware has basically decided that the Inquisitor chooses to remain an amputee for no particular reason.   

Has it?  When?  


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Has it?  When?  

 

In imaginary jump-to-conclusions head-canon land.  :lol:


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Is it your fapping hand?

 

Seriously though, my objection really centers around the fact that it is already established magic can regrow limbs. This isn't like ASOIAF where Jaime gets his hand chopped off and its gone for good end of story. Meaning Bioware has basically decided that the Inquisitor chooses to remain an amputee for no particular reason.   

 

EDIT: Really that's censored  :?

IDK I never discussed that with her before.  

 

"Kara darling do you ****** with your left hand?"  

 

"not touching that one"  

 

Sorry.  



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Easy, the mark did unrepairable damage, we ARE dealing with ancient powerful elven magic.

 

Yeah, no that doesn't hold up. The hand was removed, that it was irreparably damage would not preclude regrowing a new one. Unless its your assertion the mark damaged the inquisitor on such a fundemental level they can't heal at all, meaning they'd be dead in a few weeks any ways given the amount of wear and tear a body just goes through on a casual basis.

 

Has it?  When?  

 

In the comics.



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In the comics.

 

What comics? There's post-Trespasser official Bioware Inquisitor comics?



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It might be Gaiders horrible Alistair comics.



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What comics? There's post-Trespasser official Bioware Inquisitor comics?

 

How is that relevant to anything or you just being deliberately obtuse? The point is that magic exists which can regrow limbs, yet the inquisitor is stuck as an amputee. I don't need to wait for a series of comics about the inquisitor Bioware will never produce to point it out. 


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How is that relevant to anything or you just being deliberately obtuse? The point is that magic exists which can regrow limbs, yet the inquisitor is stuck as an amputee. I don't need to wait for a series of comics about the inquisitor Bioware will never produce to point it out. 

 

So you just avoid his question then?



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Yeah, no that doesn't hold up. The hand was removed, that it was irreparably damage would not preclude regrowing a new one. 

 

It could be said that the Anchor exists on a fundamental level in two planes of reality (the fade and the real world) and though it was removed in the real world, it still exists in the Fade. Thus if some hand was "regrown" by magic... there would be the possibility of a "re-connection" to the Anchor in the the fade thus igniting the demise of the Inquisitor. There, that's explained as well as any "regrown by magic" spells that there are in Thedas. 


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I like the fact that glory is fleeting and the price of victory is high (and often pyrrhic). The hero riding off into the sunset and living happily ever after would be both boring, and not very fitting for the setting. Thedas is a Crapsack World after all.

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It could be said that the Anchor exists on a fundamental level in two planes of reality (the fade and the real world) and though it was removed in the real world, it still exists in the Fade. Thus if some hand was "regrown" by magic... there would be the possibility of a "re-connection" to the Anchor in the the fade the the demise of the Inquisitor. There, that's explained as well as any "regrown by magic" spells that there are in Thedas. 

That's creepy.  But I mean I kinda got the feeling that Solas took it back.  And then the hand did its thing as a result of that. 



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How is that relevant to anything or you just being deliberately obtuse? The point is that magic exists which can regrow limbs, yet the inquisitor is stuck as an amputee. I don't need to wait for a series of comics about the inquisitor Bioware will never produce to point it out. 

 

Now who's being obtuse? You just said "in the comics" so I was asking if there are comics. I'm not the expert in all media in existence related to Dragon Age.



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So you just avoid his question then?

 

 Is that avoiding the question? He was being deliberately facetious. 



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 Is that avoiding the question? He was being deliberately facetious. 

 

No, I wasn't, I was asking a question. You may want to assume less about people and just take their questions at face value. 



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 Is that avoiding the question? He was being deliberately facetious. 

 

I saw him ask what comic you're referring to with you avoiding the answer



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My Lavellan may have lost the Inquisition (disbanded), Solas and her arm, but she's now a Comtesse with a home in Kirkwall (and her Clan is part of the council of Wycome and thanks to Varric, recognized by other States in the Free Marches) and works as a Red Jenny with Sera.



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Now who's being obtuse? You just said "in the comics" so I was asking if there are comics. I'm not the expert in all media in existence related to Dragon Age.

 

Sorry. The follow up question about inquisitor-comics made it sound like you were being facetious as opposed to genuinely asking a question. Any ways, yes there are comics. In one of them a mage uses magic to regrow limbs. 


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Sorry. The follow up question about inquisitor-comics made it sound like you were being facetious as opposed to genuinely asking a question. Any ways, yes there are comics. In one of them a mage uses magic to regrow limbs. 

 

Well I believe you about the re-grown limbs magic. I'm just saying at this point, we don't know if the Inquisitor ultimately decides to use this magic or not. He may be only using a prosthetic temporarily, since the post-game-events don't take us through much, past Trespasser. 



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I though people here considered Revan ruined by the tie-in novel and The Old Republic?

Never heard of those. ;)


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Statement: All the player characters have loss and defeat as part of their character arc. If they didn't, they'd be quite boring. A story of constant victory at no cost is hardly a story worth experiencing, is it?

 

Analysis: Each protagonist the Masters make has both loss and defeat, as well as gains and victories. Let's go through them and see if the gains outweigh the loss, starting with KOTOR's Revan, who met my ancestral prototype.

 

Revan:

Loses: Previous life's memories as well as new life's innocence after the revelation of their former identity.

Defeats: Taris, Dantooine

Gains: Power or redemption.

Victory: Star Forge is destroyed or gained, either saving or condemning the galaxy.

 

The Warden:

Loses: Previous life before the Wardens, possibly their new life as well.

Defeats: Ostagar, Lothering

Gains: Fame and (possibly)fortune combined with a life of duty.

Victory: Archdemon is defeated, Fifth Blight is ended, Ferelden is saved.

 

Hawke:

Loses: Most or all of his/her family, then their new life in Kirkwall

Defeats: Lothering, the loss of their siblings and mother

Gains: Riches, fame, possibly power

Victory: Mage anarchy/freedom or templar tyranny/order.

 

Shepard:

Loses: His/Her life(control/synthesis) or health(Destroy).

Defeats: Kaidan/Ashley, Horizon, Earth Invasion, Thessia

Gains: If alive, enough royalties from the vids never to need to work again. Maybe a promotion.

Victory: Reapers constant wiping out of all life in the galaxy is ended

 

Inquisitor:

Loses: An arm, possibly the majority of the Inquisitions infiltrated powerbase.

Defeats: Haven

Gains: Fortune, fame and power. A LOT of it.

Victory: Corypheus defeated, the Breach destroyed, Thedas saved.

 

Opinion: The loss of an arm seems fairly minor, by comparison. The Inquisitor seems to have lost very little and gained quite a bit.


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DAI has the most easy and happy ending out of any of the DA games. Only 2/9 companions can actually die, nobody important from your side dies in the story, you get to live your life (however short) happily with no consequence and you're worshipped as the second coming of Andraste by the common person.

 

Compared to DAO (where 7/10 companion can die, the Warden PC will eventually fall to the taint and so many important figures have died in the Blight) or DA2 (where you're forced into hiding, 6/9 companions can die and the city has gone to complete hell).


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