Who said they won't? Solas's plan is for the elves to ascend, not die. 'Destroying your world' probably means the dangers of the Fade fusing suddenly with the real world, demons and such, which Solas's faction will be ready for.
Umm he makes it very clear that people will die
There are clearly still ancient elves in the world. Abelas, for example, and the sentinels in the temple. Solas even says there that his people yet linger. If Solas intends to do time travel magic, that's all a moot point anyway. If he intends to just move forward, there are still some "real" elves around.
Still, I was looking for a clear, unambiguous quote that says Lavellan and all modern elves will be collateral damage. 'ashes' can be metaphorical, 'your world' can refer merely to Southern Thedas i.e. the people that the Inquisitor championed.
Heh, "just a few".
In my inquisitor's case it's literally 'just a few'. Your companions, 8 of them since iron bull betrayed me. Your advisors, 3 of them. Adds up to 11. Throw in all the significant characters my inquisitor might have grown fond of, it at most adds up to 30.
Umm he makes it very clear that people will die
Sigh..."people" will die, yes, the elves will ascend at the cost of people dying, right? So people will die, but the elves will ascend, right? Please read my lines before responding.
...Have you seen what the Crossroads are like? The eluvians? Every example of old elven magic seen in the game? It's practically an ultra-civilized civilization where the limits of mortal ability are pushed to their furthest.
And Solas being Solas, I don't believe he'll not have a plan to deal with the Evanuris when the veil's torn down.
In my inquisitor's case it's literally 'just a few'. Your companions, 8 of them since iron bull betrayed me. Your advisors, 3 of them. Adds up to 11. Throw in all the significant characters my inquisitor might have grown fond of, it at most adds up to 30.
Still, I was looking for a clear, unambiguous quote that says Lavellan and all modern elves will be collateral damage. 'ashes' can be metaphorical, 'your world' can refer merely to Southern Thedas i.e. the people that the Inquisitor championed.
Fair enough!
Btw, Where's that line said? I don't remember hearing it...
Just at the end conversation with Solas. Lavellan (I don't know about other races) can choose 'I support your goal', and she'll say 'let me help you, Solas', then Solas refuses saying 'I cannot put you through this' and Lavellan says that line in response. It actually made me hopeful that there might be a way to join him after all...but no, at the end you're still pretty much forced to declare that you'll stop him. But damn, I don't wanna stop him!
Well, I've misjudged your thread then.
It does make sense to join Solas when you share the same level of selfishness he is displaying right now.
You still are no ancient elf, though.
If you want to simplify it as selfishness, then I can't stop you. But my opening post states that this choice to join Solas should have been available to an inquisitor thoroughly disgusted with human society (we did have plenty of cause to do so) and is Dalish, and thus might be sympathetic to Solas' cause.
And judging by your response, you'd probably be that sort of person who fails to see the big picture anyway. Which makes the 'Qun' in your username either sarcastic, or downright hilarious.
Just at the end conversation with Solas. Lavellan (I don't know about other races) can choose 'I support your goal', and she'll say 'let me help you, Solas', then Solas refuses saying 'I cannot put you through this' and Lavellan says that line in response. It actually made me hopeful that there might be a way to join him after all...but no, at the end you're still pretty much forced to declare that you'll stop him. But damn, I don't wanna stop him!
Ah, thanks! Weird that I don't remember it, as I actually clicked that option on my first try! Gonna have watch that scene again!
Alright, can anyone come forward with solid proof that (a) Solas does not mean all elves when he speaks of 'Restoring the People' and (
Restoring the world will kill the inquisitor and all modern elves along with everyone else?
Also, why does everyone assume that when Solas speaks of 'ending your world', he speaks it literally? Like a kaboom that destroys the entire earth? Couldn't it simply be the collapse of civilization due to the Fade and the real world merging?
Ok, that's what I got from a romanced Lavellan dialogue -
Lavellan: Why does this world have to die for the elves to return?
Solas: A good question, but not one I will answer. You have always shown a throughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much. I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours.
Lavellan: We aren't even people to you?
Solas: Not at first. You showed me that I was wrong... again. That does not make what must come next any easier.
Lavellan: Why bother disrupting the Qunari plot, if you're going to destroy the world regardless?
Solas: You have shown me that there is value in this world, Inquisitor. I take no joy in what I must do. Until that day comes, I would see those recovering from the Breach free of the Qun.
Lavellan: Why?
Solas: Because I am not a monster. If they must die, I would rather they die in comfort. In any event, it is done.
Lavellan: I guess we owe you for that one, too.
Solas: I hope it gives your people some final peace.
If that's not enough, I don't know what is. He hardly could be much clearer in what awaits even modern elves.
Well I've watched the ending several times and only a few things are clear.
1.) Solas is drawing the elves to him.
2.) His plan is to "restore his people".
3.) Re-connection to the Fade will cause mass chaos that Solas expects to kill very many.
Nowhere have I seen any clear answers about what happens or does not happen to "modern elves". All of you saying they're going to die... you're pulling that out of your butts. It's far more likely Solas has drawn them to him so they will be ready for re-connection to the Fade. This connection isn't gone from their nature, Solas illustrates this in a conversation with Sera when he talks to her about what she can see looking at the rift in the sky. The elf Inquisitor also sees "more" when in the crossroads.
...and it still sucked to live there for most people. It was soooo bad, Solas felt the need to take drastic measures.
Hm, and Solas being the same Solas who acted to save that same society, you think he'd just bring everything back, complete with decadence, corruption, everything? I'd at least offer Solas the respect of assuming he is a more thorough reformer than that.
If some are so suicidal, why not just jump off a cliff and make Solas' job much easier since he wouldn't feel so bad about it as it wasn't his job. He doesn't have to know you let Saarath obliterate you.
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Well I've watched the ending several times and only a few things are clear.
1.) Solas is drawing the elves to him.
2.) His plan is to "restore his people".
3.) Re connection to the Fade will cause mass chaos that Solas expects to kill very many.
Nowhere have I seen any clear answers about what happens or does not happen to "modern elves". All of you saying they're going to die... you're pulling that your of your butts. It's far more likely Solas has drawn them to him so they will be ready for re connection to the Fade. This connection isn't gone from their nature, Solas illustrates this in a conversation with Sera when he talks to her about what she can see looking at the rift in the sky. The elf Inquisitor also sees "more" when in the crossroads.
Is it possible he is calling the people that will die "your people" because the Inquisitor is for all races and doesn't see them as he does, so he's put them in with the rest because he knows they won't kill them? As for elves disappearing, he seems to be once again freeing "slaves" to join him, and he did say he uses everyone for his own gain.
Ok, that's what I got from a romanced Lavellan dialogue -
Lavellan: Why does this world have to die for the elves to return?
Solas: A good question, but not one I will answer. You have always shown a throughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much. I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours.
Lavellan: We aren't even people to you?
Solas: Not at first. You showed me that I was wrong... again. That does not make what must come next any easier.
Lavellan: Why bother disrupting the Qunari plot, if you're going to destroy the world regardless?
Solas: You have shown me that there is value in this world, Inquisitor. I take no joy in what I must do. Until that day comes, I would see those recovering from the Breach free of the Qun.
Lavellan: Why?
Solas: Because I am not a monster. If they must die, I would rather they die in comfort. In any event, it is done.
Lavellan: I guess we owe you for that one, too.
Solas: I hope it gives your people some final peace.
If that's not enough, I don't know what is. He hardly could be much clearer in what awaits even modern elves.
Did he specifically say 'your people' means 'modern elves? His line of 'your inquisition' really conveys the feeling that he's addressing Lavellan as 'the Inquisitor' (hence, 'your people' would mean the Inquisiton, and by extension Southern Thedas). Back in the main game, aside from one or two remarks that indicate that Solas feels little in common with modern elves, he uses the phrase 'our people' very often when talking to Lavellan. Especially when he first takes you to skyhold, he speaks of the humans 'blaming our people' and the orb being 'ours'.
Sigh..."people" will die, yes, the elves will ascend at the cost of people dying, right? So people will die, but the elves will ascend, right? Please read my lines before responding.
Implying the modern elves will ascend 
Well see my third point. By the time you get to make that choice, you're literally 5 minutes away from the game's conclusion. It doesn't even have to be a game over screen - just let it be the inquisitor's ending.
Sure, I'd love that, and they could do it, as they did with the Orlesian Warden in Awakening. But they've said in the past that they didn't like the way that turned out, so I guess that's a nope.
Too bad, though, because I'd love the chance to play a character who wasn't always on the side of good, and that goes beyond just having a bad attitude. The only game I can think of that allowed this ending was Obsidian's NWN2, but, even then, it was game over, as I don't think you could play the expansions with a character who sided with the King of Shadows.
Well I've watched the ending several times and only a few things are clear.
1.) Solas is drawing the elves to him.
2.) His plan is to "restore his people".
3.) Re-connection to the Fade will cause mass chaos that Solas expects to kill very many.
Nowhere have I seen any clear answers about what happens or does not happen to "modern elves". All of you saying they're going to die... you're pulling that out of your butts. It's far more likely Solas has drawn them to him so they will be ready for re-connection to the Fade. This connection isn't gone from their nature, Solas illustrates this in a conversation with Sera when he talks to her about what she can see looking at the rift in the sky. The elf Inquisitor also sees "more" when in the crossroads.
Thank you for at least acknowledging that there are no clear answers about what happens or does not happen to "modern elves". I keep seeing replies that state that as if it's confirmed, established fact that 'Solas is going to destroy everyone to restore the People, whatever that means'.
Join him?? No..
It's clear that Solas must die .
Hm, and Solas being the same Solas who acted to save that same society, you think he'd just bring everything back, complete with decadence, corruption, everything? I'd at least offer Solas the respect of assuming he is a more thorough reformer than that.
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He didn't 'save' the society. He effectively killed who knows how many ancient elves when he rendered them mortal when he removed the Veil. The society, as it existed, was destroyed.
He only locked the Evanuris away and hasn't shown that he has the means to deal with them when they are freed when the Veil is gone. It doesn't matter if he doesn't want a return to the how things were because the Evanuris will want that. When they wake up, you don't thing they'll want to rebuild their powerbase and their pretty temples? Who's going to do all that work for them? Sure, Solas can fight them which will lead to yet another destructive war between his people and the 'gods'.
When asked about releasing them, all he said was "I had plans".
Did he specifically say 'your people' means 'modern elves? His line of 'your inquisition' really conveys the feeling that he's addressing Lavellan as 'the Inquisitor' (hence, 'your people' would mean the Inquisiton, and by extension Southern Thedas). Back in the main game, aside from one or two remarks that indicate that Solas feels little in common with modern elves, he uses the phrase 'our people' very often when talking to Lavellan. Especially when he first takes you to skyhold, he speaks of the humans 'blaming our people' and the orb being 'ours'.
But that's the trick, isn't it - he doesn't differentiate modern elves from other races. "Your people" means whole modern Thedas, meaning the modern elves will have to die like everyone else. Or the elves lived in some other world? Hm, last I checked they didn't.
Guest_Keeva_*
That was the most obvious "it's gonna backfire" statement he ever made lol
That's exactly what I thought! 
He says his journey will end in death, so I think he's on a suicide mission.
Please provide me with the relevant quote where he 'clearly states that the modern elves and Lavellan will die'. Plus if everyone dies, it's just going to be ridiculous - as far as we know the only elves who have been locked away are the Evanuris. To tear down the veil and kill everyone only for a bunch of villains to return makes no sense. And if everyone will die, then will new elves somehow be born from the void? The world restarts and suddenly elves (who'd come from nowhere) would have become the master race once again? I don't think so. If cutting elves from the Fade is what saps their immortality and makes their most advanced technology fail, then the most logical guess would be that the return of the Fade would simply return immortality and enable the elves to recreate their lost civilization again.
The final romance elf scene Solas states:
There is only death in this journey. Getting rid of the Qunari will give you a few years of peace.
Elf:
We aren't even people to you.
Solas:
I was wrong. That does not make what comes next any easier.
Elf:
Why stop the Qunari if you are going to destroy the world?
Solas:
I'm not a monster. If they must die they should die in comfort. I hope it will give YOUR people some final peace.
The mark will kill you. Drawing you here gives me a chance to save you at LEAST for NOW.
Next read the book Masked Empire. Solas didn't see modern elves as people. The Ancient civilization was a few god like mages and the rest were slaves. It was a civilization not based on technology but on magic.
Solas killed Felassan, because Felassan began to see city elves as people and didn't get the password from Briala.
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