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[DarkTl]

I agree, there won't be filling stations in another galaxy. One frigate is not autonomous enough to explore it. Either we need a bigger ship, or a small fleet. I personally think there will be a fleet that will support PC when needed. It makes no sense to send one small ship to another galaxy, there should be colonists and stuff.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The ship the protagonist is in command of or aboard will almost certainly not be the main ship that goes to Andromeda. Most likely we'll have a massive ship or ships be the one that takes us there and has all the fuel and supplies, then there will be smaller ships like ours that scour the region for more supplies and colonization sites while the massive ship or ships act like a space station. 

[spinachdiaper]

If I had any say there would be a ship that functions like the citdel and another one for missions.

[9TailsFox]

Can we get Andromeda, yes I am to lazy to think better joke.

[Fixers0]

They should have given us a Cruiser for ME3, at least temporarily, It's a shame we never got to be on an Alliance warship other than the Normandy.

[RVallant]

Screw Cruiser, I want a Battleship.

 

Or do a 'human innovation' and let us have those Carriers... Then we can have an added strategy and tactical layer by doing a turn based or action-round based war game by directing our fleets of strike ships, fighters, bombers and marines! 

 

I'm pretty sure in ME1 they said Carriers was a human invention in the ME universe as well... someone confirm this? >_>

[Osena109]

The ship the protagonist is in command of or aboard will almost certainly not be the main ship that goes to Andromeda. Most likely we'll have a massive ship or ships be the one that takes us there and has all the fuel and supplies, then there will be smaller ships like ours that scour the region for more supplies and colonization sites while the massive ship or ships act like a space station. 

Fifth   fleet would be nice with a kilimanjaro class to be the Main hub. I think that would would work but still don't think small things like  Frigate would be  practical in the long run.if we need to scout out we can seen  prob or even a small tactical fighter no sense in sending Frigate out. 

[N7Jamaican]

I would prefer a frigate or something smaller.  To make the setting feel more intimate.

[Zekka]

Rather have space battles over cutscenes

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Fifth   fleet would be nice with a kilimanjaro class to be the Main hub. I think that would would work but still don't think small things like  Frigate would be  practical in the long run.if we need to scout out we can seen  prob or even a small tactical fighter no sense in sending Frigate out. 

Cruisers cannot land on medium or high gravity worlds, though. For a mission involving settling new worlds, that's a pretty big requirement to establish settlements on planets. Meanwhile Frigates can land on medium or high gravity worlds and were designed specifically for scouting. 

[WildOrchid]

Rather have space battles over cutscenes

 

Imagine if MEA had some space battle missions. Would be neat.

[10K]

Considering that leaked information on DAI turned out to be true it's the same for the leaks of MEA.

Not to mention the leaks from ME3.

[Osena109]

Cruisers cannot land on medium or high gravity worlds, though. For a mission involving settling new worlds, that's a pretty big requirement to establish settlements on planets. Meanwhile Frigates can land on medium or high gravity worlds and were designed specifically for scouting. 

you Don't need to land a Cruiser on a Planet to drop supply's  Cruiser would have Drop ships   for stuff like that we never Landed the  SSV normady sr2 either we had shuttle.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

you Don't need to land a Cruiser on a Planet to drop supply's  Cruiser would have Drop ships   for stuff like that we never Landed the  SSV normady sr2 either we had shuttle.

That's not very practical. It would takes days to unload a ship like that whereas landing directly on a planet would achieve the same result in hours. That's like unloading a cargo ship with helicopters from a few hundred miles offshore rather than coming into port. You're arguing for efficiency and yet are throwing efficiency away when it doesn't support your argument. 

 

Speaking of, where are you getting your information that a Cruiser can last longer and be better than a Frigate, like not having a refueling problem? I don't see that in the Codex or on the wiki. 

[Osena109]

 

 

That's not very practical. It would takes days to unload a ship like that whereas landing directly on a planet would achieve the same result in hours. That's like unloading a cargo ship with helicopters from a few hundred miles offshore rather than coming into port. You're arguing for efficiency and yet are throwing efficiency away when it doesn't support your argument. 

 

Speaking of, where are you getting your information that a Cruiser can last longer and be better than a Frigate, like not having a refueling problem? I don't see that in the Codex or on the wiki. 

 

Simple logic Cruisers are larger so they would have more fuel storage.   larger crew they would have more room for equipment for  Colonization you could have teams  of N7 operative's rank and file grunts engineers Mako's. you could never had that with Frigate Cruisers in Sifi are meant to last for the long haul there better Armed as well.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Simple logic Cruisers are larger so they would have more fuel storage.   larger crew they would have more room for equipment for  Colonization you could have teams  of N7 operative's rank and file grunts engineers Mako's. you could never had that with Frigate Cruisers in Sifi are meant to last for the long haul there better Armed as well.

That's not what the Cruisers in Mass Effect are built for. What the rest of science fiction does is irrelevant. Cruisers in Mass Effect are built to be the frontline fighters of the fleet. What you just described is the purpose of a Frigate in Mass Effect. 

 

Also, Bioware confirmed our character isn't going to be an established soldier like Shepard was, and Shepard only got command of the Normandy because we needed a ship and the Normandy while classified as a Frigate was more of a unique ship, akin more to a submarine than a frigate so perfect for a Spectre. Commanding a Cruiser has people of higher rank, and those commanders don't leave their ships to go lead groundside operations. So our protagonist according to the established lore cannot be the commanding officer of a Cruiser.

 

For all we know we aren't even commanding a Frigate but some new class of ship or a unique kind like the Normandy. It may not even be an Alliance ship but one from a more civilian origin. 

[Osena109]

That's not what the Cruisers in Mass Effect are built for. What the rest of science fiction does is irrelevant. Cruisers in Mass Effect are built to be the frontline fighters of the fleet. What you just described is the purpose of a Frigate in Mass Effect. 

 

Also, Bioware confirmed our character isn't going to be an established soldier like Shepard was, and Shepard only got command of the Normandy because we needed a ship and the Normandy while classified as a Frigate was more of a unique ship, akin more to a submarine than a frigate so perfect for a Spectre. Commanding a Cruiser has people of higher rank, and those commanders don't leave their ships to go lead groundside operations. So our protagonist according to the established lore cannot be the commanding officer of a Cruiser.

 

For all we know we aren't even commanding a Frigate but some new class of ship or a unique kind like the Normandy. It may not even be an Alliance ship but one from a more civilian origin. 

I can see how he/she could get Command of the Cruiser. may not be in Command at the Start be gains it due to senior officers   being deemed unfit for command or them being Killed off fairly early in the game.

[AllianceGrunt]

I can see how he/she could get Command of the Cruiser. may not be in Command at the Start be gains it due to senior officers   being deemed unfit for command or them being Killed off fairly early in the game.

 

Lol. you play as a Lieutenant. The admiral is a drunk so gets struck off and the Commander is having sex with everyone on board so get struck off too. 

[Osena109]

Lol. you play as a Lieutenant. The admiral is a drunk so gets struck off and the Commander is having sex with everyone on board so get struck off too. 

Jacob's Dad lol

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can see how he/she could get Command of the Cruiser. may not be in Command at the Start be gains it due to senior officers   being deemed unfit for command or them being Killed off fairly early in the game.

If the commanding officer was deemed unfit for command then the executive officer would assume command. If the entire command staff is deemed unfit, a new command staff of similar ranked officers will take command. We are a ground soldier, so by the time we get in command of the ship there will be nobody to operate it since every officer qualifies would be seen unfit. Shepard only did both because Shepard was a Spectre and was already the executive officer before Anderson stepped down, thus becoming the commanding officer. 

 

The best bet would be if the new ship is akin to a destroyer or a LCS. Like how a Cruiser is between a Dreadnought and a Frigate, a Destroyer is between a Frigate and a Cruiser. It packs more firepower than a Frigate, but is lighter and more agile than a Cruiser. In real life navies, Destroyers are one of the main staples of a fleet, while Cruisers and Frigates are slowly being phased out by new ships like LCSs. 

[Osena109]

If the commanding officer was deemed unfit for command then the executive officer would assume command. If the entire command staff is deemed unfit, a new command staff of similar ranked officers will take command. We are a ground soldier, so by the time we get in command of the ship there will be nobody to operate it since every officer qualifies would be seen unfit. Shepard only did both because Shepard was a Spectre and was already the executive officer before Anderson stepped down, thus becoming the commanding officer. 

 

The best bet would be if the new ship is akin to a destroyer or a LCS. Like how a Cruiser is between a Dreadnought and a Frigate, a Destroyer is between a Frigate and a Cruiser. It packs more firepower than a Frigate, but is lighter and more agile than a Cruiser. In real life navies, Destroyers are one of the main staples of a fleet, while Cruisers and Frigates are slowly being phased out by new ships like LCSs. 

I think that is true about the Frigate and Cruiser being Phased out but With that new Railgun the Navy is working on Battleships will be back in  Business.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think that is true about the Frigate and Cruiser being Phased out but With that new Railgun the Navy is working on Battleships will be back in  Business.

Yeah. Cruisers are being phased out or at least not continued because they aren't cost-effective, with only the top four navies even able to produce and maintain them, and the Frigates are going to be replaced by the LCS, which are more multi-purpose than they are. The United States Navy, the largest navy in the world, only has 22 Frigates and 22 Cruisers left in operation while they currently have 62 Destroyers in operation and have no plans on stopping. 

 

Well, maybe not in terms of size since the railgun can be equipped to smaller ships like Destroyers but yeah the role of the Battleship of "destroy other ships and shore defenses with big gun" will come back. 

 

The leak mentions the ship will be named Tempest, which means one of two things if accurate. One, that we aren't part of the military since it isn't following the established naming scheme where Frigates are named after battles, Cruisers named after cities, Dreadnoughts named after mountains, and Carriers named after famous people. Or two, it is a new class of military ship and thus following a new naming scheme. Maybe this scheme revolves around natural disasters like tempest, hurricane, monsoon, etc. If the latter, personally I think it fits something between frigates and cruisers like destroyers pretty well since like those storms those ships would be quick and deadly. 

[CHRrOME]

The leak mentions the ship will be named Tempest, which means one of two things if accurate. One, that we aren't part of the military since it isn't following the established naming scheme where Frigates are named after battles, Cruisers named after cities, Dreadnoughts named after mountains, and Carriers named after famous people. Or two, it is a new class of military ship and thus following a new naming scheme. Maybe this scheme revolves around natural disasters like tempest, hurricane, monsoon, etc. If the latter, personally I think it fits something between frigates and cruisers like destroyers pretty well since like those storms those ships would be quick and deadly. 

 

Never occurred to me. That's a rather interesting theory regarding the ship's name.

[Larry-3]

Just thinking out loud here... in terms of length from small to large...

Corvette --> Frigate --> Destroyer --> Cruiser --> Battlecruiser --> Battleship

There are other things such as light, medium, and heavy, but this is basically what the ship hierarchy is.

[Killroy]

I don't trust so called Leaked Information one bit we shall wait in see.

The leak is legit, but I don't think it said anything about the new ship being a Normandy clone. It's best to ignore Dutch's Ghost. He makes things up and just generally trolls this forum.