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[Star Reborn]

Andruil and Evanuris, when to the Void, the domain of the Forgotten Ones, and broought Armor made from, and made weapon from it. It drove her made, so Mythal took away her memories of how to get iinto the Void. Since before the Veil, the Fade was not separeted from Thedas. Is the Void beyond the Fade?

[thats1evildude]

He made it.

I suspect the name is a coincidence. "Anvil of the Void" just sounds cool.

[Qun00]

In the Void store.

[Lumix19]

There's some speculation that the Void is the same one mentioned in Andruil's codex (where she goes mad due to saying too long in the Void) and that a connection might exist between the armor she crafted from the Void and the Anvil.

Or it's a coincidence.

[TEWR]

He made it.

I suspect the name is a coincidence. "Anvil of the Void" just sounds cool.

 

To be fair, Caridin is attributed the creation of the Anvil, but he never explicitly says and confirms that he made it with his own hands. He simply says that he owes his rise to Paragon status to the Anvil. In essence, by those words it can be interpreted that the Dwarves back home looked at the Golems and the Anvil and Caridin and threw them all together and made him a Paragon for it, but that's simply how he was perceived by folks, and thus the Anvil became his.

 

Given its level of complexity and how he was granted 'visions by the Ancestors', it's more likely it's a relic of whatever PT is within Orzammar's general vicinity. Golems existed in the PT of Kirkwall and were never explained, the Sha-Brytol wound lyrium through their weapons and armor (not unlike how lyrium is wound through a Golem and how it's wound through the Anvil), and logical deduction shows that the report King Geldinblade sealed away in the Orzammar archives wouldn't make sense for the scavenger to have gone from Orzammar to Kirkwall and back to Orzammar. 

 

One man wouldn't have been able to survive such a trek by himself.

 

There's some speculation that the Void is the same one mentioned in Andruil's codex (where she goes mad due to saying too long in the Void) and that a connection might exist between the armor she crafted from the Void and the Anvil.

Or it's a coincidence.

 

It would be interesting if the armor she crafted stemmed from blighted lyrium that came from a Blighted Titan and she used something akin to the Anvil of the Void to do it.

[Andromelek]

Thinking about it, wouldn't be Caridin the responsible of delete the Titans from the records? If the Anvil was made with help of Titans he would have a reason to delete them and take credit for himself, also the Anvil was on a vein of Lyrium protected by Lyrium based stuff and Branka said she heard a voice from the Anvil, I know Oghren speculates other thing, but, well, he is not a Titan expert.

[Ashagar]

From what I gather, the void lies beyond the fade. Its mentioned in the first game early in the prayer of one of the random praying priests at ostagar, do not condem me to wonder the void but bring me to your side. We also know from spirits such as justice(before he was corrupted) that the spirits of dead mortals pass though the fade and go elsewhere and that even the spirits and demons didn't know where they go afterwords. The void may be the place beyond the fade that the spirits of the dead travel to go whereever the dead go after leaving the fade.

[Lumix19]

To be fair, Caridin is attributed the creation of the Anvil, but he never explicitly says and confirms that he made it with his own hands. He simply says that he owes his rise to Paragon status to the Anvil. In essence, by those words it can be interpreted that the Dwarves back home looked at the Golems and the Anvil and Caridin and threw them all together and made him a Paragon for it, but that's simply how he was perceived by folks, and thus the Anvil became his.

Given its level of complexity and how he was granted 'visions by the Ancestors', it's more likely it's a relic of whatever PT is within Orzammar's general vicinity. Golems existed in the PT of Kirkwall and were never explained, the Sha-Brytol wound lyrium through their weapons and armor (not unlike how lyrium is wound through a Golem and how it's wound through the Anvil), and logical deduction shows that the report King Geldinblade sealed away in the Orzammar archives wouldn't make sense for the scavenger to have gone from Orzammar to Kirkwall and back to Orzammar.

One man wouldn't have been able to survive such a trek by himself.


It would be interesting if the armor she crafted stemmed from blighted lyrium that came from a Blighted Titan and she used something akin to the Anvil of the Void to do it.

There does seem to be that implication. There's certainly a lot to connect the Void and the Blight together. And with lyrium being woven into Golems, the reveal of red lyrium as containing the Blight and implications that the Evanuris defeated and harvested lyrium and "something else" from the Titans... it all seems to be fitting together somehow. What it looks like at the end will be quite the revelation.

[BansheeOwnage]

From what I gather, the void lies beyond the fade. Its mentioned in the first game early in the prayer of one of the random praying priests at ostagar, do not condem me to wonder the void but bring me to your side. We also know from spirits such as justice(before he was corrupted) that the spirits of dead mortals pass though the fade and go elsewhere and that even the spirits and demons didn't know where they go afterwords. The void may be the place beyond the fade that the spirits of the dead travel to go whereever the dead go after leaving the fade.

That's the chantry's interpretation of the void, which may or may not be the same "void" as the one Andruil hunted in. Either way, I'd bet 1000 sovereigns that the chantry's interpretation is at least partially wrong.

[Ashagar]

Of course its slightly wrong though the souls of the dead passing though the fade to somewhere else is something that has been as I noted also mentioned by spirits who down't know where the souls go afterwords. I think its likely that both the elven and chantry versons of the void are partly wrong and partly true.

[Arvaarad]

Relevant codex on Andruil:
 

Andruil put on armor made of the Void, and all forgot her true face. She made weapons of darkness, and plague ate her lands. She howled things meant to be forgotten, and the other gods became fearful Andruil would hunt them in turn. So Mythal spread rumors of a monstrous creature and took the form of a great serpent, waiting for Andruil at the base of a mountain.
 
When Andruil came, Mythal sprang on the hunter. They fought for three day and nights, Andruil slashing deep gouges in the serpent's hide. But Mythal's magic sapped Andruil's strength, and stole her knowledge of how to find the Void. After this, the great hunter could never make her way back to the abyss, and peace returned.

 
Armor made of the Void = lyrium-packed armor, like the golems and Sha-Brytol wear?

 

The abyss = another hint at the Deep Roads (Uncharted Abyss)?

[In Exile]

We assume Thedas is a planet - a sphere - but that might not be true. For all we know it is floating on the back of a (bunch of) turtle(s) Titan(s). 

[BansheeOwnage]

We assume Thedas is a planet - a sphere - but that might not be true. For all we know it is floating on the back of a (bunch of) turtle(s) Titan(s). 

Thedas' planet has a spherical moon and a spherical sun, and its geology and gravity are consistent with a spherical planet. Since we have no reason to assume it's not a sphere, I'm going to assume it is.

[In Exile]

Thedas' planet has a spherical moon and a spherical sun, and its geology and gravity are consistent with a spherical planet. Since we have no reason to assume it's not a sphere, I'm going to assume it is.

 

I wouldn't ascribe either of those things as proof - this is a world with actual magic. Geology and gravity are powered by - in a very literal sense - plot magic. The sun and moon being literally pulled on strings across the sky wouldn't be unreasonable here. 

I mean, we're currently theory crafting with the idea that instead of plate techtonics Thedas might have literal sleeping giants. 

[SandiKay0]

It is an atom in the toenail of a titan lol

[Lumix19]

I wouldn't ascribe either of those things as proof - this is a world with actual magic. Geology and gravity are powered by - in a very literal sense - plot magic. The sun and moon being literally pulled on strings across the sky wouldn't be unreasonable here.
I mean, we're currently theory crafting with the idea that instead of plate techtonics Thedas might have literal sleeping giants.

Exactly. When you reach the Wellspring you see a sky below as well, not exactly indicative that the planet conforms to our rules. Adds new meaning to the dwarves being afraid to fall into the sky though.

[Reznore57]

In Chantry lore I believe the "Void" is everywhere the Maker hasn't turn his gaze.

To be honest , I believe there is a balance in Thedas keeping magic from becoming too volatile ,and I imagine some people sundered this balance by accident , and created places of "Void" .

[myahele]

People have a theory that June was a Dwarve that ended up being included into the Evanuris. Perhaps the Anvil of the Void was one of his tool(s) that was left over and was re-discovered by Caridin

[Aulis Vaara]

There's certainly a lot to connect the Void and the Blight together.

Please, enlighten us, because I think there are many fewer connections than you believe.

[BansheeOwnage]

Exactly. When you reach the Wellspring you see a sky below as well, not exactly indicative that the planet conforms to our rules. Adds new meaning to the dwarves being afraid to fall into the sky though.

That isn't the sky though; it's the inside of a Titan. There would be more rock under the Titan.

[SandiKay0]

Honestly I wonder if the void is where titans are born or made because they are supposed to be resistant to the fade magic.

[Star Reborn]

Samson wears an armor made from pure red lyrium. That could be a version of the armor of the Void.

[Lumix19]

Please, enlighten us, because I think there are many fewer connections than you believe.

Perhaps "a lot" is hyperbole, we have only one direct connection which is the cult of the Empty Ones. But other indications exist such as Andruil wearing the armor of the Void and bringing plague to her lands.

[Lumix19]

That isn't the sky though; it's the inside of a Titan. There would be more rock under the Titan.

Ah right. I interpreted that wrongly then.

[Aulis Vaara]

Perhaps "a lot" is hyperbole, we have only one direct connection which is the cult of the Empty Ones. But other indications exist such as Andruil wearing the armor of the Void and bringing plague to her lands.

The Empty Ones' Void was nothingness and it's quite hard to make an armor out of nothing, so you've already got a problematic contradiction there.

And then there's the whole problem that the Blight isn't a void. It's corruption with a song.

The Anvil of the Void was not wrought with red lyrium and seemed to function just fine. That suggests that the Void was normal lyrium, which already drives people mad enough on its own.

The plague eating Andruil's lands could have been quite natural or simply mismanagement, or the lyrium disharmonized the elven magic or the spirits. After all, the world was completely unfamiliar with the taint before the Second Sin and if there had been a large swath of blighted terrain somewhere they probably would have known something.

After centuries the Abyssal Rift is still tainted and while Ferelden seems to be recovering thanks to the short span of the Fifth Blight, other areas don't seem to be as lucky. Andruil could've helped his lands to recover, but the Evanuris seem too big dickwads to do so.