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[WardenoftheFade]

So, really this topic comes down to a couple of questions I have about how genetics work in this fantasy setting. We've seen examples of elf-blooded children (human appearing, with a few more elven traits that aren't noticeable unless you're paying close attention), but no examples of other interracial children. Do they exist? Is it genetically possible for elves and dwarves to create children? Dwarves and humans? And what about the qunari? Are they capable of having offspring with any race other than other qunari? And to what degree is elfy-ness recessive? Obviously, elf-blooded children take on more human-like appearance when that is the combo, but they're still supposedly smaller than most humans. Are they also less hairy? Is it simply that the ears are a recessive trait, rather than other aspects of the race?

Also, magic appears to be somewhat genetic, but to what degree? Is it a recessive trait? Something that operates on a more complex level than simple dominance/recession? If dwarves and humans or elves can indeed have children, could an elf-blooded dwarf be born a mage??

 

I'm really looking for anyone who has some more insight based on the canon, but wild speculation is welcome here, too.

[stop_him]

Doesn't the DA wiki say:

Human+elf = human

Dwarf+elf = dwarf

 

Dwarf+ human = half dwarf

 

No word yet on qunari.

[SurelyForth]

That's pretty much what the line has been. There are no half elves in Thedas, which is why characters like Alistair and Slim Couldry look completely human despite being elf-blooded. I think Feynriel confuses people, but he looks a lot like his human father, who just happens to have more delicate features than most human men in DA2. 

 

As for magic, it definitely seems to be hereditary, as Tevinter has managed to preserve magical lineages through careful breeding, but we don't know how. Is it totally genetic? Or are there mitigating factors that make a child more or less likely to have magic? I'm guessing it's a mixture, if only because mages persist throughout Thedas despite Circle mages being so discouraged from procreating and the qunari breeding program likely attempting to keep their numbers as close to zero as possible (which is an assumption, I admit). It's just tricky to pin down without an official decree from BW, because the mechanics of magic/the Fade indicate a slightly different physiology than what we possess. 

[WardenoftheFade]

Doesn't the DA wiki say:

Human+elf = human

Dwarf+elf = dwarf

 

Dwarf+ human = half dwarf

 

No word yet on qunari.

I have not seen that before. I would love a link to the page, if they have sources for the info?

[BansheeOwnage]

Doesn't the DA wiki say:

Human+elf = human

Dwarf+elf = dwarf

 

Dwarf+ human = half dwarf

 

No word yet on qunari.

Are you sure? I was under the impression that a dwarven HoF could father Kieran, and obviously he looks the same regardless (which I think is lazy and disappointing if true).

[Lumix19]

Are you sure? I was under the impression that a dwarven HoF could father Kieran, and obviously he looks the same regardless (which I think is lazy and disappointing if true).

Gaider noted that half-dwarves look like short humans or tall dwarves. But they are very rare because Dwarves have low fertility rates amongst themselves and that drops when you pair them with other races.

[WardenoftheFade]

Intriguing. I wonder if it would be possible (highly unlikely, I'm sure, but if it's at all possible) for a half-dwarf to also be a mage? And I'm still very curious about the qunari side of things.

[BansheeOwnage]

Gaider noted that half-dwarves look like short humans or tall dwarves. But they are very rare because Dwarves have low fertility rates amongst themselves and that drops when you pair them with other races.

So, I guess I'll have to stick with "lazy" for Kieran to look the same, then. That's disappointing. Hopefully we can see an actual half-dwarf sometime.

[vertigomez]

Are you sure? I was under the impression that a dwarven HoF could father Kieran, and obviously he looks the same regardless (which I think is lazy and disappointing if true).

To be fair, Kieran's only twelve. I'm not sure he'd look that different regardless. Maybe slightly squatter..?

[Nixou]

 I wonder if it would be possible (highly unlikely, I'm sure, but if it's at all possible) for a half-dwarf to also be a mage?

 

 

 

As mentioned: Kieran

[dragondreamer]

David Gaider's made some enlightening posts on the subject of interacial breeding in the past.

 

http://forum.bioware...aces/?bioware=1

 

We still don't know about how things work with Qunari, but we haven't dug very deep into their mysteries yet. 

[vertigomez]

As mentioned: Kieran

Nothing in particular indicates that Kieran is a mage. He's potentially magical, in the same flukey way that a dwarven Herald is, but...

[Asdrubael Vect]

Intriguing. I wonder if it would be possible (highly unlikely, I'm sure, but if it's at all possible) for a half-dwarf to also be a mage? And I'm still very curious about the qunari side of things.

Sendal

 

Kieran

 

they can become mages as they have fade connection what dwarves does not and they does not see dreams

 

valta and Sha Britols is dwarf mages cos of her connection to Titan but this will cause them to have collective mind

 

Sairabases are childens of qunari who have mixed with other races-elfs, humans who have mages

[dragondreamer]

A half-dwarf is still half-human, and I think that alone would make it possible for Kieran to be a mage.  Especially given what's on his mother's side.

[Big I]

Nothing in particular indicates that Kieran is a mage. He's potentially magical, in the same flukey way that a dwarven Herald is, but...

 

I think that if the Inquisitior is a Circle mage and Kieran is the OGB he'll mention that not having magic would be like being blind. Seems to indicate he's a mage.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

So, I guess I'll have to stick with "lazy" for Kieran to look the same, then. That's disappointing. Hopefully we can see an actual half-dwarf sometime.

I don't know about lazy but I tend to look for real life reasons for design decisions like this.

I think the devs may have said that they didnt have the time,resources etc to design a model for each combination. At least in DAO. Bowser is famous for inventing lore for why they didn't include a feature that would have cost too many zots. See salarian or krogan females, or half elves in this case.