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[Jaron Oberyn]

It just hit me on a recent playthrough that Abelas says the drinker will be bound to Mythal for eternity. Not for the remainder of their life. Does this mean the inquisitor is immortal? In so far as they won't die of old age? It seems the immortal elves could die from stab wounds so I assume they function like Tolkien's elves.

[Wulfram]

It might be more that when they die their consciousness will go back in the well with all the other people who drank it.

[Jaron Oberyn]

The well was destroyed though, and that doesn't sound like what Solas was saying when he said the inquisitor will forever be bound to her - doing her will whether he knows it or not. Which also leads to the question of whether he is now in control.

[Aren]

It might be more that when they die their consciousness will go back in the well with all the other people who drank it.

 

The well was destroyed though, and that doesn't sound like what Solas was saying when he said the inquisitor will forever be bound to her - doing her will whether he knows it or not. Which also leads to the question of whether he is now in control.

Flemeth implied tha the well of sorrow was already used before,so maybe when the priest die the well of sorow recreate itself + the knowledge of the last owner.

[robertthebard]

Without knowing exactly how the Well functions, it's really hard to say. Although I can now see this used as another excuse for "but my Inquisitor should be the next PC, even if the game's set 500 years in the future". I would expect, however, that Aren has the right of it, since we are told that the Well had been used before, and it was there when we got there. That seems to be the most straightforward method of adding the user's knowledge to the pool.

[thats1evildude]

I think that any obligation you owe to Mythal ended with her death.

[Jaron Oberyn]

The well was used before many times, but that was during the time of the ancient elves. Remember Abelas said that if anyone drinks from it now, it will be lost forever. That's why he leaves, his duty ended because there is no need to guard it anymore. I don't see this as a reason for bringing back the inquisitor as a pc again, but if solas is now in control it'd be interesting to see the consequences of drinking from it in DA4. He may use the inquisitor to achieve his goals.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

The Ancient Elf probably used blood magic to make them self immortal just like Zatharien and Avernus in DAO, the Well just makes you Mythals little puppy for life.

[Jandi]

I think that any obligation you owe to Mythal ended with her death.

 

We don't know if she's dead or not. In the end scene before Solas arrives she is channeling something *into* to the Eluvian and the effect is exactly the same as when she drew out the old soul from Morrigans kid. It's possible that she channeled a piece of her soul into an object on the other side the same way that necklace worked in DA 2, or maybe it was the kids soul, or both, we don't know.

 

I mean, yeah, it's probable that she is dead and she was channeling the old soul from the kid, but we simply don't know for sure. What is certain is that something was challened somewhere before Solas arrived.

[robertthebard]

We don't know if she's dead or not. In the end scene before Solas arrives she is channeling something *into* to the Eluvian and the effect is exactly the same as when she drew out the old soul from Morrigans kid. It's possible that she channeled a piece of her soul into an object on the other side the same way that necklace worked in DA 2, or maybe it was the kids soul, or both, we don't know.
 
I mean, yeah, it's probable that she is dead and she was channeling the old soul from the kid, but we simply don't know for sure. What is certain is that something was challened somewhere before Solas arrived.

This scene is the same, whether you have the OGB or not.

[Jandi]

This scene is the same, whether you have the OGB or not.

 

Well, like I said, we don't know what actually happened, only that something was channeled somewhere using the exact same effect as with the soul transfer so it's safe to assume that someones soul went somewhere, or a piece of it.

 

Maybe she was "preparing should the inevitable happen" like with Morrigan coming to kill her at her hut.

[SandiKay0]

What if that flemith is the one you let live in origins? Not the one that came back in DA2? So I won't believe she is gone just yet. Because she had an apointment to keep lol.

Besides what if the well helps her with effective immortality?

[Jaron Oberyn]

The Ancient Elf probably used blood magic to make them self immortal just like Zatharien and Avernus in DAO, the Well just makes you Mythals little puppy for life.

They were immortal because of their nature according to Solas. Had nothing to do with blood magic. If it's for the remainder of your life, Solas would have said that. You have to look at the wording. "Bound to Mythal for eternity" is completely different from "Bound to Mythal for the remainder of your life".

 

What if that flemith is the one you let live in origins? Not the one that came back in DA2? So I won't believe she is gone just yet. Because she had an apointment to keep lol.

Besides what if the well helps her with effective immortality?

Immortality for the elves in DAI seems to function similarly to Tolkien's, where they do not die of age but can of wounds. Solas said the veil is what caused his people to age.

[The Night Haunter]

I'm 95% sure that we have not seen the last of Flemythal. She is a trickster through and through, and has had a thousand years to plan this. I have no doubt she is using Solas to get her revenge on the Evanuris, and that parts of her are still out there, waiting in shadows for the chance to strike.

[TraiHarder]

We don't know if Flemythal is dead or not. I highly doubt she is dead.

[LightningPoodle]

Could be. A God needs servants that live for a very long time. What better way to get them than to give them eternal life?

[Ashaantha]

I don't know about eternal life or what-not. But it is also possible that the Inquisitor is potentially the only non-elf to drink from the Well (if you play a human, qunari or dwarf of course). If Morrigan kills Abelas his eyes do that funny colour thing so I assume it means he drank from the well at some point as well, so the act of drinking doesn't seem to be what destroys the Well itself. I have no idea how all this is going to get explained, if it will, but the Well drinker (whether Inquisitor or Morrigan) may be important in the future.

[Wren]

I'm 95% sure that we have not seen the last of Flemythal. She is a trickster through and through, and has had a thousand years to plan this. I have no doubt she is using Solas to get her revenge on the Evanuris, and that parts of her are still out there, waiting in shadows for the chance to strike.

The more I replay parts of this game, the more obvious this very thing becomes for me as well.  SO MANY clues!  Though, I'm still confused by what Fen'Harel and Mythal statues were doing in the deep roads..

[SirGladiator]

The more I replay parts of this game, the more obvious this very thing becomes for me as well.  SO MANY clues!  Though, I'm still confused by what Fen'Harel and Mythal statues were doing in the deep roads..

I agree also, and that's an interesting question too.  My guess would be that since these were powerful mages, the Dwarves didn't worship them but they could've easily seen them as good people, people who helped other people and as such were worthy of respect.  Maybe they helped dwarves too at some point or other, no reason why they couldn't help people other than just elves if they felt like it, and the result of some of that help could've been statues.

[Smudjygirl]

The more I replay parts of this game, the more obvious this very thing becomes for me as well.  SO MANY clues!  Though, I'm still confused by what Fen'Harel and Mythal statues were doing in the deep roads..

 

In Origins Dalish story, we see that Elves may have lived underground with humans at one point. With Witch Hunt, we find out some Dwarves took in Elves fleeing the destruction of Arlathan. It's possible that the latter caused some elven artifacts to end up in the Deep Roads

[SandiKay0]

It could also be a FOB in the deep roads too.