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[ninsegtari]

First thing is a thought, perhaps Solas was a slave to the Evanuris back in the day. One that was far too powerful to contain. Maybe even a slave to Mythal, who would have freed him at some point. Just an idea, aside from Fen'Harel walking amongst both groups of gods in the Dalish tales, I have nothing to back it up with.

 

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Now, according to Trespasser, DA4 will be set in Northern Thedas (likely with an Orlesian protagonist). Tevinter will be of particular note, since the Inquisitor makes a point of stabbing the map of Tevinter when talking about going where Solas can't operate.

 

I figure that Tevinter has the largest single elven population in all of Thedas. Slaves are the most numerous group after all. Now, what happens when a group of slaves is offered freedom? They'd probably take it. What if they were offered freedom AND given magical abilities? They'd definitely take it.

 

Party banter between Solas and Sera suggests that any elf could have their innate magical abilities unlocked. If true, Solas could gut Tevinter and raise an army of loyal mages to oppose [DA4 protagonist].

[Direbunny]

I really, really hope we get to play as tevinter elves in the next game, How awesome would that be?

[Apollexander]

Elven slaves rising up, Imperium shaken, Minrathous falling into Qunari's hands, and Solas doing his part. That's what I want to see.

[BloodyTalon]

The player will start out has a lowly slave with nothing this gives room to be from any race, there will be a slave revolt triggered by t something and you char escapes and stumbles onto one of the orbs of the dreams that gives him a power or something like that.

Solas will  be a hidden hand behind things throughout the game and remember elves can rise above slaves in these lands hard but possible. So his agnets could be anything

[vertigomez]

Elven slaves rising up, Imperium shaken, Minrathous falling into Qunari's hands, and Solas doing his part. That's what I want to see.

Minrathous has never fallen. I'd like to keep it that way.

[The Baconer]

Now, according to Trespasser, DA4 will be set in Northern Thedas (likely with an Orlesian protagonist).

No.

[BloodyTalon]

Minrathous has never fallen. I'd like to keep it that way.

It has been sieged, but not even the blight and hordes of darkspawn brought it down, doubt some followers of the Qun can do what the endless darkspawn hordes couldn't do.

Less I'm recall wrong

[Illegitimus]

Of course the Qunari DO have by far the best siege weaponry of anyone on Thedas.  

[BloodyTalon]

Of course the Qunari DO have by far the best siege weaponry of anyone on Thedas.  

And we know some of the siege weapons that city may still have, those weapons are just illegal in the south due to the restrictions mages have faced longer, no reason a mage country wouldn't have equiaped that city with some of the powerful old mage artifacts for defense or made new ones, such has statues that enhence magical energy and shot fireballs(if you played origins has a mage, picture that on a larger scale.). Also something akin to how the how one fortress was locked up in JoH

Would say for siege defense they would be equal to each other, they just need mages to work most of their siege weapons, just like the followers of the qun need a trained crew for the type of powder weapons they are using currently.

[Apollexander]

Minrathous has never fallen. I'd like to keep it that way.

 

A record is to be broken

[Gervaise]

The main problem about elven slaves/servants as both Kirkwall and Orlais discovered is that no one suspects them of having the courage and initiative to rise up against them, and are so disregarded they can listen in with impunity to the discussions of their masters.   This is why they make such effective spies.    I dare say the Qun have already been building up a network of sleeper agents waiting to be activated, possibly already active, within the borders of Tevinter.   Now we discover that Solas seems to have the same capability.  

 

Tevinter seemed to have scavenged a lot of ancient elven artefacts and knowledge and built their own knowledge on the back of that.   We know from discussions between Solas and Dorian how the Tevinter had/have foci that are very similar in appearance and probably approach in power Solas' orb.   Dorian's mentor, Alexius, and his wife spent many years stretching the boundaries of magic and Livia's particular field of expertise was the Fade and the Veil.   Dorian mentions putting Alexius' affairs in order when he went back to Tevinter and that would likely included gathering up all the neglected research papers.   So I'm pretty certain that Dorian will turn up something useful to help in the fight to preserve Thedas.     Meanwhile there will be Solas striking against Tevinter on one side, hoping to gather up what he needs to destroy the Veil, and the Qun will be attacking on the other side, hoping to gather what they need to strengthen the Veil sufficiently to negate magic altogether.   I suspect that our PC will be somewhere in the middle of all this.

 

I had already thought the idea of the next PC being a former slave would be a good one since it would enable the role to be played by any race.    It would make a change for a human PC not to be from nobility.   The elves would have to be of the city variety because we know from DAI that the Dalish do not operate that far north.  There may also be an old elven outpost somewhere remote in Tevinter, similar to the Temple of Mythal, except dedicated to a different elven god.   Dorian will be our link with DAI and may even be the one who frees us but after that we will be operating independently so Solas does not make the connection between us and the old firm, may be just touching base occasionally to let people know how we are getting on.

[Boost32]

Solas does not care about the elves of this time, they arent part of the "People", they will die just like the rest.

[SandiKay0]

Yes, but wouldn't they(elves) be excellent canon fodder?

[Gervaise]

Solas is quite prepared to use people to his own ends.   So he will convince the elven slaves he is their hero and they won't discover the truth until it is too late.   Some might even willingly die if they thought it would get back at their long time masters.  

 

I would hope that Tevinter will be more intelligent than Orlais and remember the lesson of history, considering it was only because of a simultaneous elven slave uprising that Andraste's crusade got as far as it did.    The Battle of Valarian Fields was won because of elven slaves "behind enemy lines" rebelling.   The original history of Shartan had him as a leader of an elven division in the army.   If they had been tasked with guarding the mage masters and suddenly turned on them, that would have been sufficient to turn the tide of the battle.    (Ignore the version given in the Canticle of Shartan since that is based on an old elven folktale about a rebellion led by a trickster warrior against tyrants and therefore much more likely to be about Solas/Fen'Harel than an historical record of Shartan).    So whether the attack came from Solas' forces or more likely the Qun, if elves inside Minrathous rose up against their masters, it could well fall from within or at least make an opening which the enemies of Tevinter could exploit.

[Cz-99]

Elven slave mages? Orlesian protagonists?

 

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[jlb524]

Sure, some will follow Solas just like Calpernia (and probably other former Tevinter slaves) followed Corypheshiz.

Others would be skeptical and I'm guessing the average elven slave hasn't even heard of Fen'Harel or would give two craps about a powerful being from Dalish legend (that's the vibe I got from Fenris in DA2 at least).

[LobselVith8]

No.

Yeah, I don't see why the protagonist would be Orlesian.