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[Dutch's Ghost]

 

Every outpost defense should be like this.

[SoulRebel_1979]

Or like this

 

 

 

[Oldren Shepard]

A couple or one truly great to remember would be good.

[Altair_ShepardN7]

Or like this

 

*snip*

I wouldn't mind something like this, tbh. 

[Larry-3]

Star Wars has the most epic land and space battles ever conceived. BioWare, should look at a few Star Wars films for some good ideas. I would suggest the Battle over Coruscant, and the Battle over Endor for space; while the Battle on Geonosis, and the Battle on Hoth for land.

[MrObnoxiousUK]

Star Wars has the most epic land and space battles ever conceived. BioWare, should look at a few Star Wars films for some good ideas. I would suggest the Battle over Coruscant, and the Battle over Endor for space; while the Battle on Geonosis, and the Battle on Hoth for land.

Maybe on celluloid but not ever conceived,  there are dozens of Sci fiction books that have gigantic space and land battles. You cannot argue that Starwars has this in written fiction as Disney does not count the Expanded universe as canon any more.

[Larry-3]

Maybe on celluloid but not ever conceived, there are dozens of Sci fiction books that have gigantic space and land battles. You cannot argue that Starwars has this in written fiction as Disney does not count the Expanded universe as canon any more.

There are novel adaptation of the movies. They go more in depth on each battle such as describing how many forces was actually there that was not shown in the movies, what was going through the minds of someone of military personnel, what ships were doing... et cetera. Regardless, I do not think that canon would matter sense I suggest watching the film's for ideas; it would not be about Star Wars.

[AllianceGrunt]

Or like this

 

 

If you watch some of the old action films they are almost as bad  

[MrObnoxiousUK]

There are novel adaptation of the movies. They go more in depth on each battle such as describing how many forces was actually there that was not shown in the movies, what was going through the minds of someone of military personnel, what ships were doing... et cetera. Regardless, I do not think that canon would matter sense I suggest watching the film's for ideas; it would not be about Star Wars.

Please do not expect me to take your word for it, i would like links to verify this information for myself. Canon tends to matter when you are using it as a source material.

[Larry-3]

Please do not expect me to take your word for it, i would like links to verify this information for myself. Canon tends to matter when you are using it as a source material.

I do not know if the novels are still cannon, but sense the movies are still canon I would imagine the novels still are. Just type in the name of the Episode and put novel next to it. Regardless, what is cannon, and is not cannon does not matter in this case. I was suggesting that BioWare should use those battles for ideas when creating battles for Mass Effect: Andromeda.

[Mathias]

All I know is that the last three Bioware games in a row had lackluster "Final Battles", which sucks because that's something Bioware games used to shine in. Every Bioware game had been this amazing journey that culminates to a huge final battle at the end. The Star Forge, Battle of the Citadel, Battle of Denerim, and then the Suicide Mission. But ever since DA2 came around we haven't seen those high quality climaxes. ME3's was pitiful, and a betrayal. Then you've got DA:I that just left me with "that's it?"

[Ahglock]

I'd like large battles and the success/speed of your units mission had a impact. Let's say 5 squads are hitting a installation. Get your job done in under 10 minutes and you are wondering wtf is going on with the other squads and you have to decide whether to push on solo or maybe help other squads. 10-15 minutes you get done first but others are finishing up soon after and stage 2 is ready. 15-20 same but you are last to complete. 20+ you are so late you don't help in next push or are playing catch up and with your step getting completed late there are more casualties.

The overall success of the mission impacts the larger battle. The installation is providing anti air or something and the slower you take it down the more problems the overkill battle has. Maybe have a choice of 2 facilities to hit. They can be identical maps. But they have different goals one is anti air another controls a ground choke point or something. Combining a meta decision which place to hit with in game skill to determine success.

[justafan]

So, 2 things I think would really be cool to see happen in the Mass Effect Universe.

 

1.  An orbital bombardment.  The closest we got was the Quarian fleet shooting a reaper.  I want to see something the codex only alludes to, a full fledged bombardment Turian style.  Preferrable from the groundside as I watch the city/military complex/outpost explode around me.

 

2.  Battle of Kledathu.  I want an orbital drop, triumphant music blaring, and it looks like we are going to kick butt and take names, only for things to promptly go downhill in to an all out fight for survival.  It would not only be epic, but also show the strength and threat level of whatever our enemies in Andromeda is like.

[Han Shot First]

Although this is a troll thread (Spartans in space?), I'd love to see an epic battle in the game. That is assuming that the battle makes sense and fits into the plot. This game won't be set during the Reaper War, so it is possible that whatever fighting is going on will be small scale or low intensity. 

 

 

[SojournerN7]

Of course battles should be epic, but if in any capacity spears and (more) swords enter the Mass Effect universe, I expect pretty much all battles to go like this.

[Han Shot First]

Of course battles should be epic, but if in any capacity spears and (more) swords enter the Mass Effect universe, I expect pretty much all battles to go like this.

 

This.
 

Melee weapons are stupid in Sci Fi setting. Firearms make them obsolete.

[wolfsite]

Hi Dutch

[mickey111]

start shooting people

 

play this song to make it epic.

 

works every time.

[themikefest]

start shooting people

 

play this song to make it epic.

works every time.

I like this version

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[Malanek]

Even though the game is set in Andromeda, I still think the opening cutscene should be the milky way fleet vs the reapers. Epic battle scene, see the fleets clear a path for the crucible while taking heavy losses, see the crucible activate (without giving any hint what Shepard picks) which creates a massive singularity in space, sucking a handful of ships into a wormhole that closes seconds later, leaving those ships trapped in Andromeda.

 

I really did like the scene when the fleets arrived back in the Sol system. It was the emotionally high point of the game, possibly the trilogy. Open the new game with a memorable moment, not a run-a-way scene.

[Ahglock]

If you watch some of the old action films they are almost as bad

 

Especially since he builds a makeshift blunderbuss to defeat him.  Kirk, warrior, scientist, leader!!  Ah back in the day when fighting choreography basically didn't exist. 

[Morty Smith]

Melee weapons are stupid in Sci Fi setting. Firearms make them obsolete.

 

[Ahglock]

I wouldn't mind a powered martial artist.  Karate kid is a bit more natural talent, who can see weaknesses in anything and focus strikes with internal enrgy.  But this would be fun for me.  But hey I like superhero stuff.  I can see him as a tech/biotic hybrid.

 

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[rapscallioness]

Even though the game is set in Andromeda, I still think the opening cutscene should be the milky way fleet vs the reapers. Epic battle scene, see the fleets clear a path for the crucible while taking heavy losses, see the crucible activate (without giving any hint what Shepard picks) which creates a massive singularity in space, sucking a handful of ships into a wormhole that closes seconds later, leaving those ships trapped in Andromeda.

 

I really did like the scene when the fleets arrived back in the Sol system. It was the emotionally high point of the game, possibly the trilogy. Open the new game with a memorable moment, not a run-a-way scene.

 

 

Aww, that really was a great scene. When the fleets just start poooouuuring through that relay like, "yeah, hey fvkrz, we're back." then Bam! Destiny Ascension.

 

I know the Reapers said "Oh, snap! Wait, what?"  It was glorious...for a time.

[Han Shot First]

 

How many times has this guy actually brought a knife to a gunfight? I'm going to guess zero. 

 

Melee weapons are demonstrably obsolete in warfare. One needs to go no further than to look to our own history. Ask the Zulu how their assegai (short spears) worked out against the British' Martini-Henry rifles at Rorke's Drift, or the Imperial Japanese how those massed bayonet charges worked out against M1 rifles, BARs, Thompson submachine guns and the like.

 

At Rorke's Drift about 140 British soldiers beat back 3,000 to 4,000 Zulu and killed about 350, for 17 dead of their own. During the banzai charge at Saipan, the largest in the Second World War, the Japanese were likewise beaten back at a cost of roughly 4,300 KIA for 650 of the US Army troops. (the latter figure includes killed and wounded)

 

To be fair the bayonet still has some very limited utility in modern warfare under extraordinary circumstances, but the key word there is limited. It is also very much a secondary weapon that attaches to a rifle rather than replacing it. Swords, axes, war hammers and similar weapons simply have no place on the modern battlefield and would only serve to get their wielder killed by someone wielding a firearm.

 

There have also been incidents where police officers were unfortunately wounded or killed by people armed with knives, but the common factor there was the bad guy having the element of surprise and/or the confrontation occurring at very close range, where the knife wielder was able to close the distance to the officer before he/she could draw their gun. Again, its somewhat unique circumstances. Knives certainly don't trump guns.

 

The *only* justification for introducing pure melee weapons in Mass Effect (I don't count the bayonet or omni tools to be among these, as they don't replace firearms) would be Rule of Cool. Any argument that there is an element of realism to it or that melee weapons aren't obsolete on a modern battlefield have no basis in fact.