yeah the keeper is obsolete , I never really liked the keeper in the first place , but now she is just like those old pants hanging in your closet that you just happened to have forgotten about and now your like thirty and you got them when you were 18 yup...
I hate to break it to you, but not all of us outgrow those 18 year old waistlines and can still fit in those pants. >.>
Bingo. The Keeper is limited by both mana AND cooldowns in a way most of the other mages aren't. All of her major, class-defining abilities have massive cooldown times and high mana costs.
Honestly, I feel like one other factor that tends to go unmentioned that really hurts the Keeper is how the spawn system changed awhile ago. When each zone had several distinct, discrete, and more or less stationary pulls, the Keeper excelled because she could Barrier the party plus drop a Static Cage around the mass of the enemies, handily enabling the party to quickly and efficiently deal with a group.
Nowadays however, the spawn system has enemies coming in a steady trickle from multiple angles, strung-out and typically spread apart. The Keeper is good at dropping one or two big, impactful spells before she's out of mana and waiting on cooldowns. That just isn't suited to how fights go in the game now.
She excelled in past because everyone would keep group formation... Nowadays everyone is out for their stack of elusive, rampage HoK and HoK in general leaving the Keeper to think "Now who to barrier.... Oh shiiii 4 Qunari Assassins that can spam spell purge".
I really don't mind the Assassins so I'd rather the bring the Keeper up to date with the other mages... I dunno, she is just camp doorway material and not so much a mobile keeper.
Also the Storm Pact belt makes her one of the biggest targets on the map, even with the Amulet of Accord....
I really like her play style and her spells but she isn't as fun to play anymore and she pretty much got some mega nerfs for no good reason.
Yeah and one more thing.... Why is it that the qunari mage sarebas is so much stronger than the qunari warrior katari?
It makes no sense, Qunari should be stronger as warriors rather than mages.... same goes for the enemy qunari where tha sarebas is just too strong compared to the other enemy warriors......
Qunari mage sarebas stronger than the elf mage... I don't know... I think Bioware has many things to fix...
Yeah she definitely needs a buff. I've found that against Qunari she's kind of a liability on higher difficulties.
She can take care of Thornton's garden.
The thing about target area barrier is that the players are trained to spread out so they don't all get hit by the same AOE. So the keeper is kind of like working for the enemies. 
Here here come close together for the barrier, and turn to the dragon.."Hit them now!"
I have to agree with scene_cachet's OP on this one.
To me the Keeper could use a little love. That being said I've ran her to 250+ and still find her Static Cage an awesome ability for setting up a group pounding by DPS characters. That being said I haven't brought her into NM much. Most times I have brought in my Elementalist (also at 250+) instead. Factor in the newer barrier capabilities of the Sarrabas and there ya go. Yeah, a little DPS or barrier love here wouldn't hurt.
Well obviously I'm pretty ignorant of most info concerning the new items and the qunari
read through this again https://docs.google....7aWfhI/pubhtml#
(Andruil's gift looks nice)
It just seems that an elemental pact on the keeper might finally make her the "lightning girl" I wanted to build months ago.
I'd like to try
-Barrier
-Veilstrike (tier2 of course with Restorative Veil)
-Chain Lightning
-Dispel
You can get all these skills from the Primal Spirit tree which also has Gathering Storm
You can strip barriers when necessary, especially good for venatori encounters
You can inflict sleep with shocked + Veilstrike and set it off with Dispel
You can exploit elemental weaknesses on the darkspawn and qunari
replacing Dispel with Static Cage if it doesn't work out.
I just hope she's not outcompeted by the other mages like stated by other players.
I read somewhere that Energy Barrage combines with Gathering Storm. Definitely not true on old-gen.
Modifié par Yallegro, 22 septembre 2015 - 06:02 .
Well obviously I'm pretty ignorant of most info concerning the new items and the qunari
read through this again https://docs.google....7aWfhI/pubhtml#
(Andruil's gift looks nice)
It just seems that an elemental pact on the keeper might finally make her the "lightning girl" I wanted to build months ago.
I'd like to try
-Barrier
-Veilstrike (tier2 of course with Restorative Veil)
-Chain Lightning
-Dispel
You can get all these skills from the Primal Spirit tree which also has Gathering Storm
You can strip barriers when necessary, especially good for venatori encounters
You can inflict sleep with shocked + Veilstrike and set it off with Dispel
You can exploit elemental weaknesses on the darkspawn and qunari
replacing Dispel with Static Cage if it doesn't work out.
I just hope she's not outcompeted by the other mages like stated by other players.
I read somewhere that Energy Barrage combines with Gathering Storm. Definitely not true on old-gen.
That build is definitely a death sentence for The Keeper vs Qunari.
I am not sure you are understanding the implications of assassins that can spam spell-purge on your barrier that regardless of how many cooldown modifiers you have, you will be dead by the time your next barrier can be recast.
The elemental belt does work with her, but not in vs things that can dispell your barrier on cast.
I have tried the yavanalis the renewal amulet the 200 health belt superb HOK and an enhanced static cage ring she is NM capable except Qunari but most characters are not nm capable with them
Fade cloak, Static Cage, Disruption Field, Barrier
Static Cage works beautifully for trapping the Qunari assassins. If you somehow can't trap them, then Fade Cloak, get close to a Ben-Hassrath assassin and bait its Spell Purge so it can trigger the internal cooldown, leaving you some time to recover
The cooldown for the assassins Spell Purge is (30.000s * creature-cooldown)
You can find the values for creature-cooldown here: http://forum.bioware...l-difficulties/
Fade cloak, Static Cage, Disruption Field, Barrier
Static Cage works beautifully for trapping the Qunari assassins. If you somehow can't trap them, then Fade Cloak, get close to a Ben-Hassrath assassin and bait its Spell Purge so it can trigger the internal cooldown, leaving you some time to recover
This is what I currently run with... However instead of Fade cloak I have chain lightning, but I've been thinking of getting rid of chain lightning... I might give lightning bolt a go instead of chain lightning as it would work well if it's 200% weapon damage per enemy that is within 4 meters so might nuke the assassins in static cage.
Fade cloak, Static Cage, Disruption Field, Barrier
This is what I was using, until Bioware nerfed Disruption Field so that it no longer blocks projectiles. That severely limits its usefulness, in my view, and also just annoys the bejeezus out of me. Is it still working for you?
That build is definitely a death sentence for The Keeper vs Qunari.
I am not sure you are understanding the implications of assassins that can spam spell-purge on your barrier that regardless of how many cooldown modifiers you have, you will be dead by the time your next barrier can be recast.
The elemental belt does work with her, but not in vs things that can dispell your barrier on cast.
Understand?
Implications?
I can't SEE man
also this
The cooldown for the assassins Spell Purge is (30.000s * creature-cooldown)
You can find the values for creature-cooldown here: http://forum.bioware...l-difficulties/
Understand?
Implications?
I can't SEE man
also this
Considering you can have up to 4 assassins on you at once, that 30 sec cooldown is pretty much spammed because as soon a you put another barrier up, it's gone.
Are you playing on last gen?
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