I agree. I'm not bothered by skimpy outfits, but some are just silly.
On a side note, i had to laugh. Your picture made me think of Toma saying that.
(Figured i may as well chime in, since the topic moves at lightning pace here)
Yep.
XD Oh Toma that loveable psycho yandere. He and the PC deserve each other. Crazy.
Yep.
XD Oh Toma that loveable psycho yandere. He and the PC deserve each other. Crazy.
Ukyo is my favourite. One side loves you, one wants to kill you. Exciting XD
And? It is uncomfortable to you, so? Even if it is universally uncomfortable in our world, this character might not feel discomfort, realism isn't necessary.
That's a matter of opinion, what is stupid/dumb/sexy/hot/cringeworthy/creepy/engaging/etc depends on personal taste. And even if it looks stupid, there's no reason we shouldn't have characters with stupid choices in clothes.
So you'd accept a character walking around with needles in their eyes with no reaction because realism isn't necessary?
You're right it's personal taste. But again this isn't something rare. It's common. Thus why the "why can't we have a character that dresses like this!" defense leaves me cold. We do. We have hordes.
Ukyo is my favourite. One side loves you, one wants to kill you. Exciting XD
Oh god Ukyo! I wanted to hug him 
But Kent is my favorite. He's pretty much the sane defrosting ice king choice. Perfection. The one sane option in a sea of crazies.
There only so many tragic "hetero" "gay" "bi" "trans" , whatever, stories/experiences you can listen to, watch, read before you just become so goddamn numb with it all, life's a struggle no matter your colour, race, gender or sexual preference, every man every woman an every child struggles regardless, all struggling differently but all struggling non the less
We dont need to understand all wee need to do is accept the person next to us is just struggling as much as ourselves an accept the fact that much like ourselves that person is human an all that matters is are they are a decent person
Krem's a decent person, that's all that matters
Sure. I've read your posts.
I'm pretty sure this account you have is your second.
I have too
http://forum.bioware...eam/?p=19709942
I didn't know being gay was a lifestyle choice. Has the agenda gotten to me too?
They are an efficient sexy bunch, damn them all. 
I'm not talking about socially acceptable. I'm talking about **** like boobs being held with ****** strings yet somehow not being effected by gravity. As someone with big breasts that **** is damned uncomfortable. You can have cleavage with goddamn support. Or ugly sumo underwear. Why are you showing them off in that case? It makes the character look dumb instead of sexy. And you can say some people's choice sure. But the stupid outfit isn't uncommon.
Yeah, that's my problem with Quiet, she's a great character but dear god, i can't stop laughing at her clothes (especially that scene in the rain, like wow) I mean, Miranda is sexy. Samara is sexy and elegant. Samus Aran is sexy. But Quiet? She looks silly to me, not sexy. You know where her clothes would make the most sense? If she wore those in more.... personal moments.
She'd be a helluva lot hotter if she wore some nice catsuit instead. It would compliment her body and looks more. 
I have too
http://forum.bioware...eam/?p=19709942
I didn't know being gay was a lifestyle choice. Has the agenda gotten to me too?
They are an efficient sexy bunch, damn them all.
HAH, i love you wifey.
Plus, the name PinkDiamondstl ring any bells to you? I remember she posted how she'd ignore Sera when she found out she's a lesbian. Good times....
HAH, i love you wifey.
Plus, the name PinkDiamondstl ring any bells to you? I remember she posted how she'd ignore Sera when she found out she's a lesbian. Good times....
That name is vaguely familiar, would explain alot, lol.
Thus why the "why can't we have a character that dresses like this!" defense leaves me cold. We do. We have hordes.
Good for you. I never said that. I said there's nothing wrong with characters like that.
Good for you. I never said that. I said there's nothing wrong with characters like that.
And I disagree and clearly we're going to get nowhere thus the world keeps spinning.
HAH, i love you wifey.
Plus, the name PinkDiamondstl ring any bells to you? I remember she posted how she'd ignore Sera when she found out she's a lesbian. Good times....
And again you are delusional . You may wanna check for gas leaks .
And again you are delusional . You may wanna check for gas leaks .
And I disagree and clearly we're going to get nowhere thus the world keeps spinning.
The difference being that you give no proof for your claims. "Criticising" characters like that(Quiet, etc) without backing your claim that there's something wrong with them , isn't criticism, it's whining.
The difference being that you give no proof for your claims. "Criticising" characters like that(Quiet, etc) without backing your claim that there's something wrong with them , isn't criticism, it's whining.
It doesn't get us anywhere. As long as we have characters whose ONLY characteristic IS their "abnormality" it's nothing but pandering and only works to annoy people.
How to do it right? Dorian and Serah. NO ONE is talking about their sexuality, absolutely NO ONE. Do you know why? Because that's how you include without making it a dog and pony show like Krem. Krems only defining characteristic is his genitals.
This is simply not true, Krem serves the game in many ways. He offers us insights into Iron Bull, he reinforces that Iron Bull leads a company of mercenaries, it's not just told to us, or shown once when we meet Bull their is a constant second in command there, who we can even send off on missions. We can talk to this person about jobs Iron Bull has pulled with them getting another insight into the man, and the type of people he attracts to him to serve as his core group. We see that to Iron Bull a Qunari agent, the skills you bring to the table are more important than who you are and where you come from, by the very fact his Second in command? Is a former soldier of Tevinter, a nation the qun is still at war with, a nation that invades the Isle of Seheron, where he was stationed for many years, on a regular basis.
Krem serves many functions in the game, one of those happens to also be, to show us another facet of both Qunari Culture and Tevinter in regards to Gender issues.
I find it incrediably ignorant to dismiss all of Krem to 'Oh well it's just to serve some Agenda' and it is.... really quite sad to see people sink to that level, unable to get past whats between legs it seems. you don't find out Krem is Transgender till very much later on, it's one discussion you can have with the character, it's a tiny facet of the NPC. While yes Krem is not a major supporting Character he's not Iron Bull or Leliana, of the second tier NPC's in the game he has a lot of development. As much I would say as Scout Harding.
This is simply not true, Krem serves the game in many ways. He offers us insights into Iron Bull, he reinforces that Iron Bull leads a company of mercenaries, it's not just told to us, or shown once when we meet Bull their is a constant second in command there, who we can even send off on missions. We can talk to this person about jobs Iron Bull has pulled with them getting another insight into the man, and the type of people he attracts to him to serve as his core group. We see that to Iron Bull a Qunari agent, the skills you bring to the table are more important than who you are and where you come from, by the very fact his Second in command? Is a former soldier of Tevinter, a nation the qun is still at war with, a nation that invades the Isle of Seheron, where he was stationed for many years, on a regular basis.
Krem serves many functions in the game, one of those happens to also be, to show us another facet of both Qunari Culture and Tevinter in regards to Gender issues.
I find it incrediably ignorant to dismiss all of Krem to 'Oh well it's just to serve some Agenda' and it is.... really quite sad to see people sink to that level, unable to get past whats between legs it seems. you don't find out Krem is Transgender till very much later on, it's one discussion you can have with the character, it's a tiny facet of the NPC. While yes Krem is not a major supporting Character he's not Iron Bull or Leliana, of the second tier NPC's in the game he has a lot of development. As much I would say as Scout Harding.
Ironic that you would call me ignorant.
Noun
defining characteristic (plural defining characteristics)
A property held by all members of a class of object that is so distinctive that it is sufficient to determine membership in that class. A property that defines that which possesses it.
The defining characteristic of a human is that it is, in Aristotle's words, the "rational animal."
Here is another you should probably figure out.
Noun
context (plural contexts)
(linguistics) The text in which a word or passage appears and which helps ascertain its meaning.
Inquisitor: "Wait... are you-?... I didn't realize-"
Krem: "You didn't. Well, great. Now we can all talk about it."
The notion that Cremissius is an in-your-face transgender type is ridiculous... Seems a bit hypersensitive (about what? is there even an offense there to be taken?) to make more out of that aspect of his character than any character ever does in the game- including Bull and especially Krem himself who's clearly not keen on making anything out of it. You can pursue the matter further with Bull in one conversation, but otherwise it doesn't even come up. Don't pursue it and it's not even in your experience of the game. Or complain that there's not a romance option: at least then you'd sound better being worked up over his gender. The only ones not able to accept Krem for who he is and move on are players wanting to make more of it than there is. The storyline does so regardless.
In this interview with David Gaider himself on the subject he explains that they made Krem transgender only after first making him a fairly standard straight guy (like sooo many characters in the game otherwise) and then deciding he was "just kinda dull" and to add something more "interesting." I'd rather interesting than dull any day. "Interesting" is a high compliment in my vocabulary. If the whole transgender angle seems the only thing remarkable about Krem to some people, at least it's better than having made yet another a forgettable NPC, no? Obviously Krem is not the forgettable type or people wouldn't get worked up over him. Would it have been more acceptable if the character had been, say, missing an arm or really into birdwatching or tended to talk loudly? Would people then complain that he was "only about his missing arm?" Likely not- just as no one cares about other such quirks among other NPCs who have so little bearing on the main narrative of the DAverse. It's only that the quirk for Krem is being transgender that it's apparently somehow a touchy issue to some. Plus, according to Gaider, it was a challenge for the writers to not make that aspect of Krem's story as awkward or jarring an experience as with Serendipity in "Mark of the Assassin." I think they succeeded. The Chargers are supposed to be an eclectic bunch, so it fits well and also reflects solidly the maturity level of Bull and the organization he built.
All that interesting quirk adds is more color, something more to think about if you want, or at most adding new lore about the qunari. Aside from that Krem gets you more missions, adds more content to Bull's storyline, and is just another cool character to interact with as Bull's lieutenant. If anything I wish we could interact more with the rest of the Chargers as well and see them around more than in cutscenes, but what they gave us worked just fine.
Besides, Jennifer Hale voices him so well, who cares? 
Ironic that you would call me ignorant.
Noun
defining characteristic (plural defining characteristics)
A property held by all members of a class of object that is so distinctive that it is sufficient to determine membership in that class. A property that defines that which possesses it.
The defining characteristic of a human is that it is, in Aristotle's words, the "rational animal."
Here is another you should probably figure out.
Noun
context (plural contexts) (linguistics) The text in which a word or passage appears and which helps ascertain its meaning.
Uhuh uhuh, okay and that had what to do with my post,oh right nothing at all, merely a false appeal to authority as far as I could tell, an attempt to sound clever by referring to Aristotle, while avoiding the actual topic. So good luck with that, I have no interest in discussing it with you until you make actual points.
Uhuh uhuh, okay and that had what to do with my post,oh right nothing at all, merely a false appeal to authority as far as I could tell, an attempt to sound clever by referring to Aristotle, while avoiding the actual topic. So good luck with that, I have no interest in discussing it with you until you make actual points.
Am I missing something? Where have we seen Maevaris?Maevaris was far better.
On page six the pit was six feet deep, but now? What manner of cave is this? A mine?
Am I missing something? Where have we seen Maevaris?
In the comics. She also shows up in a couple of war table missions and Dorain's Trespasser epilogue slide.
On page six the pit was six feet deep, but now? What manner of cave is this? A mine?
The ass of a Titan.
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