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[DeLaatsteGeitenneuker]

Considering it is a choice that can be made in DA Keep and seemed important at the time I am left to speculate as to whether BW is simply biding its time until he returns again and/or is relevant again? Perhaps I missed something but has anyone seen anything in DAI in reference to the Architect?

[Semyaza82]

I think he will probably be back, even though he wasn't in DA:I. I don't know if it has actually been confirmed if he is one of the original magisters like Cory, but if he is then even if he was killed he'd have just jumped into a new body (not like there was a shortage of darkspawn where you fight him). Old ,but some interesting ideas on a reddit thread here.

[DeLaatsteGeitenneuker]

I think he will probably be back, even though he wasn't in DA:I. I don't know if it has actually been confirmed if he is one of the original magisters like Cory, but if he is then even if he was killed he'd have just jumped into a new body (not like there was a shortage of darkspawn where you fight him). Old ,but some interesting ideas on a reddit thread here.

Probably will be a while IF there is even another DA game as you never know what could happen.

[Kantr]

I think he will probably be back, even though he wasn't in DA:I. I don't know if it has actually been confirmed if he is one of the original magisters like Cory, but if he is then even if he was killed he'd have just jumped into a new body (not like there was a shortage of darkspawn where you fight him). Old ,but some interesting ideas on a reddit thread here.

He is one of the Original Magisters

[Darkly Tranquil]

The Architect exists in the limbo of characters with multiple fates that means that Bioware is loathe to do much with them. Given that a lot of people killed The Architect, working him back into the plot in a meaningful way is going to be pretty tricky, and I imagine the devs probably regret allowing the player the option to kill him given his untapped story potential.

[Fredward]

Has it been outright stated he's an old Magister? I know it was heavily hinted but dunno if it was confirmed. If he is it wouldn't be hard at all to work him back into the story since he'll just regenerate like Cory. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, bro was chill.

[Urzon]

The Architect exists in the limbo of characters with multiple fates that means that Bioware is loathe to do much with them. Given that a lot of people killed The Architect, working him back into the plot in a meaningful way is going to be pretty tricky, and I imagine the devs probably regret allowing the player the option to kill him given his untapped story potential.

They did it with Cory and Flemeth, so it wouldn't be too hard or tricky for them to move him back into the plot if they so desired.

[Kantr]

Has it been outright stated he's an old Magister? I know it was heavily hinted but dunno if it was confirmed. If he is it wouldn't be hard at all to work him back into the story since he'll just regenerate like Cory. I wouldn't mind seeing him again, bro was chill.

In World of Thedas 2

 

They did it with Cory and Flemeth, so it wouldn't be too hard or tricky for them to move him back into the plot if they so desired.

All he needs to do is body hop into another corrupted body

[JadeDragon]

maybe he will return on the warden plot in anderfels

[Urzon]

All he needs to do is body hop into another corrupted body

Ya. Since Cory yet the precedent with the Magister body hopping ability, it's not like the players would be able to say, "The Devs pulled that out of nowhere!", if they brought him back.

[Semyaza82]

In World of Thedas 2

 

 

Thanks Kantr! i'd seen other people say it was confirmed but never knew where they were getting it from

[Hydwn]

World of Thedas 2 more or less confirms it.  It says that the Conductor of the Choir (the ancient Greek for that is corypheus) led the Darkspawn magisters, and the first one he corrupted was the Architect of Beauty, who served Urthmiel.  Since the Architect was never far from his grey warden servants, he's undoubtedly alive in asll playthroughs - assuming all the magisters can do what Cory did.

[Akrabra]

The Architect exists in the limbo of characters with multiple fates that means that Bioware is loathe to do much with them. Given that a lot of people killed The Architect, working him back into the plot in a meaningful way is going to be pretty tricky, and I imagine the devs probably regret allowing the player the option to kill him given his untapped story potential.

Even if killed, couldn't he resurrect in Velenna's sister?. We know she is somewhere in the Dragonbone Wastes and she has the blight. Corypheus jumped from his own body to Larius/Janeka in almost an instant, wouldn't be a problem for the Architect to survive.

[Snowy-Ninja]

I wanted to see him return in Inquisition, because I believe he has the same body hop ability as Cory. (I thought he would return but didn't know how at the time) But now I wonder point does he serve? If he and Cory had attacked the Inquisition together that would have made sense, but since we have gone off into a stop solas before he ends the world story I'm not sure what use he can have. 

 

I suppose if they split the story into, Stopping solas and Finding a way to cure the taint (you need to deal with that red lyrium somehow) or prevent future blights then i could see him making a comeback. Rather then be an enemy I'd like to see him become some weird anti-hero type figure who helps you in your quest to stop blights. 

But no I don't think he's mentioned. He's much more clever / sneaky then Cory. I assume he's in the deep roads doing his own thing. 

[Kantr]

I wanted to see him return in Inquisition, because I believe he has the same body hop ability as Cory. (I thought he would return but didn't know how at the time) But now I wonder point does he serve? If he and Cory had attacked the Inquisition together that would have made sense, but since we have gone off into a stop solas before he ends the world story I'm not sure what use he can have. 

 

I suppose if they split the story into, Stopping solas and Finding a way to cure the taint (you need to deal with that red lyrium somehow) or prevent future blights then i could see him making a comeback. Rather then be an enemy I'd like to see him become some weird anti-hero type figure who helps you in your quest to stop blights. 

But no I don't think he's mentioned. He's much more clever / sneaky then Cory. I assume he's in the deep roads doing his own thing. 

He also doesn't remember (or hides it) that he is a Magister and not a smart Darkspawn

[Jandi]

What? Cory survived the prison and the explosion at the temple. What makes you think *this* Magister would stay dead? O.o

[Mr.House]

It's still annoying that Coryfish says he can't find any of the other magisters, yet it's possible Architect is a ally of the wardens and Coryfish should have been able to put that together, thus making him more incompetent then he already was.

[Rhidor]

If he's killed, he most likely used Seranni's body to revive himself. That's why he has her, a non-Warden, with him, right?

[Darkly Tranquil]

They did it with Cory and Flemeth, so it wouldn't be too hard or tricky for them to move him back into the plot if they so desired.

They could, but how many times can they go back to the "But he's not really dead!" well before it just becomes cliched beyond belief?

[thats1evildude]

He's probably still alive. If there was the possibility that the Warden could destroy him, why not astrally project his image, like he did with the Mother?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he was behind the mysterious goings-on at Weisshaupt. After all, he needed Warden blood to complete his plan.

[azarhal]

They could, but how many times can they go back to the "But he's not really dead!" well before it just becomes cliched beyond belief?

 

Technically, dying in the Dragon Age setting means getting your physical body destroyed while your soul/spirit move to the Fade (unless you are a dwarf) and then you get a few options:

- hang around in the Fade for a while (forgetting about yourself most probably)

- get bound to something in the physical world (prophetic status FTW!...not as fun when it's your mom though, poor Hessarian)

- move to the Void (hang out with the Forgotten Ones)

- find a willing host and bodyjack it

- move to the pocket dimension of the Maker (if that even exist...)

[Klinker1234]

There is a note in Inquisition found during Varric's personal quest that pretty much mentions the Architect.

Its about a carta dwarf getting lost in the Deep Roads and meeting a polite talking darkspawn that gave him food and water. 

But more interesting is that the note mentions a dwarfs grandfather spying on some large darkspawn, dressed like kings.

Three of them arguing about a black city they could not remember. One attacks and eats another, and the last one run off in to the roads.

 

Link to codex: http://dragonage.wik...rent_Darkspawn?

 

So yeah the Architect is pretty much confirmed as still being alive and giving food and water to lost carta members.

But more interesting is the fact that there is at least another as of yet unnamed old magister darkspawn, along with the fact they seem hostile to one another.

Dunno if the whole ancient magister eating eachother results in perma death though. 

[devSin]

If he's killed, he most likely used Seranni's body to revive himself. That's why he has her, a non-Warden, with him, right?

Yup. That's also why she could never be rescued.

[ModernAcademic]

I really hope he plays a major role in DA4 (not as an antagonist, because he isn't villainous, just misunderstood).

 

The Architect had a chance to appear in Inquisition. If anything, to help solve the Warden problem or offer advice on how to deal with Corypheus. Instead, the character was relegated to a Codex. /sigh

 

He now knows that to contaminate the entire surface with he Corruption is not the answer. After The Calling, that much is pretty clear to him. How will he try to save his people and help prevent future Blights remains to be seen.

I keep hoping the devs are working on his character, even though there's a remote chance he'll return in future installments,