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[v0rt3x22]

I do too.

 

I think that scene would be viewed much differently had the actual ending that preceded it been good.

 

What didn't you like about the ending?

[AlanC9]

Thus, as you correctly say - they do let organics develop FTL.

No, they don't. They let the harvested cycle pass FTL technology to the next cycle. Nobody in the current cycle invented FTL on their own. The batarians came closest since their prothean ruin was damaged.

And yeah, they harvest only advanced civilizations, but the advancement they're concerned with is AI, not FTL. And "worthy" is completely wrong.

[v0rt3x22]

No, they don't. They let the harvested cycle pass FTL technology to the next cycle. Nobody in the current cycle invented FTL on their own. The batarians came closest since their prothean ruin was damaged.

And yeah, they harvest only advanced civilizations, but the advancement they're concerned with is AI, not FTL. And "worthy" is completely wrong.

 

Yea 'worthy' perhaps isn't the right word to describe it.

 

I know they are concerned with AI - but the FTL technology is one means of identifying whether a civilization is advanced enough to be harvested.

 

Also:
 

 

 

They let the harvested cycle pass FTL technology to the next cycle.

I'm not convinced this is actually true. It could be, but I'm not aware of any particular proof in the games where this is mentioned.
 

[Vanilka]

I'd rather not any of this to be true. Maybe it's just me, but the scene felt very impersonal and random. It didn't really do anything for me. I don't care about some random couple of characters totally disconnected by time and space from what happened in the game and also disconnected from me as a player. Hearing "The Shepard" feels extremely jarring for some reason. All in all, I don't want Andromeda to have anything to do with any of it. Now I understand this is a very biased and subjective opinion, but that's how I feel. I'd rather not this to be a thing if I am to be honest.

 

Will BioWare use it, though? I wouldn't see it as completely unlikely. The thing is, how would they even let us know of the connection? I assume they can't just go and be like, "Hey, it's me, (the MEA protag), you might know me from the end of Mass Effect 3 where I was standing in the pretty desktop wallpaper listening to stories about 'The Shepard'..."

[Matthias King]

What didn't you like about the ending?

 

I'm assuming that's a joke and not a real question.
 

[v0rt3x22]

I'm assuming that's a joke and not a real question.
 

No - it's a real question

[Matthias King]

No - it's a real question

 

Wow. I'm not even going to get into it here. Not after there have been who knows how many editorial articles on the matter, not to mention college theses and documentary-length breakdowns. There are three years of forums with literally thousands of threads on the subject of how abysmally bad it was.

 

It's literally ascended into pop-culture fodder as a blanked example of terrible endings.

 

It's beyond the scope of this thread to get into.
 

[v0rt3x22]

Wow. I'm not even going to get into it here. Not after there have been who knows how many editorial articles on the matter, not to mention college theses and documentary-length breakdowns. There are three years of forums with literally thousands of threads on the subject of how abysmally bad it was.

 

It's literally ascended into pop-culture fodder as a blanked example of terrible endings.

 

It's beyond the scope of this thread to get into.
 

 

Well I'm aware of all those posts - I've been part of them at the time.

Was just asking for your personal opinion but sure - perhaps the wrong thread to discuss.

[Matthias King]

That's cool.

 

And I meant 'blanket,' not 'blanked.'

[Ahriman]

This "The Shepard" thing in Andromeda would bring it close to Warhammer level of ridiculousness. Go for it, Bioware.

Also it could give a whole new meaning to ME3 ending. If expedition starts before Mission Earth then it means that Starbrat nonsense is just a senile phantasy.

[AlanC9]

Yea 'worthy' perhaps isn't the right word to describe it.

I know they are concerned with AI - but the FTL technology is one means of identifying whether a civilization is advanced enough to be harvested.

What's the evidence for that? Having FTL can't be the trigger for the attack since the attack happens many centuries after getting FTL tech. Anyway, if the Reapers weren't encouraging organics to develop FTL, they could choose a different trigger.

I'm not convinced this is actually true. It could be, but I'm not aware of any particular proof in the games where this is mentioned.

See the galaxy map entry for Verush, where the batarians found their prothean ruins, and the codex entry Desperate Measures, which reveals that FTL designs don't originate with this cycle for anyone. (The latter is actually pretty stupid, though.)

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I agree and disagree.

BioWare obviously got religious inspirations here but perhaps not necessarily religious intents.

"The shepard" isn't just nickname.

It symbolises someone who protects and tends to those in need.

There are many other examples in the franchise.

"The conduit", "The catalyst", "The crucible"

Bioware went a bit nuts on its religious references.

It's easy to see why people now call shepard the space jesus but I think it's exactly this analogy that has caused people to discredit the true intentions of the developers and the actual story of mass effect.

Re:religious references, yeah and hept it up into dragon age. Both Dai and ME2 had 12 disiples. . Err.. I mean companions.

[LinksOcarina]

I hope not.

 

Let any mention of 'The Shepard' die with Mass Effect 3. Shepard turning literally into Space Jesus is a direction I'd rather the writers not go.

 

I think it's a bit late for that...