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#26
Itorlao

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Interesting video, never really seen anyone use the scope on the Harrier before.

It's not the best mod for it, but a different way to play it which is always a good thing.


Can't help but smile a bit over the arguments that the Harrier is a bad UR, 99,99% of all the people ever to play the game would rather claim it's OP and broken......

I dont use it now but i used it when i recorded that video. It was back when i first got the weapon and was experimenting.  Personally i hate the scope very much. They should have removed it and given weapons with the mod a larger area to hit the mob!



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Was going to say something about the scope. But decided to leave it to someone who would word it better. Nice job.


I can't really think of any AR except the Saber where the scope would make sense, but then again I prefer the thermal scope on the Saber for some wall hax. The normal AR scope is kind of strange.
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I can't really think of any AR except the Saber where the scope would make sense, but then again I prefer the thermal scope on the Saber for some wall hax. The normal AR scope is kind of strange.

Argus maybe? I don't really use that thing enough to have a strong opinion about it one way or the other.



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I don't use a scope on anything but Sniper rifles. However,in my noob days I would put the scope on the Talon and pop heads from across the map (GI mostly). It actually works really well on the Talon but you have to sacrifice either AP mod or heavy barrel. I think I'll try that again just for nostalgia.
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#30
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I don't have the Harrier yet, but regarding scopes: my first instinct was actually to put the scope on it and play it as an ersatz Indra.



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I don't use a scope on anything but Sniper rifles. In my noob days I would put the scope on the Talon and pop heads from across the map (GI mostly). I think I'll try that again just for nostalgia.

 

You had noob days TMB?! ;)  :P  I laughed though, because I used to do exactly the same thing, though more often with the Huntress or SI back then. TSent and AA too, I think.

 

I can't really think of any AR except the Saber where the scope would make sense, but then again I prefer the thermal scope on the Saber for some wall hax. The normal AR scope is kind of strange.

 

Yeah, I like the Thermal Scope on the Saber, but I also put it on the CAR when I use it - which isn't much these days, but it does make it better.  Just don't follow a Saber game with a CAR game!  I think it should also help the Argus and Valkyrie, but they are still beyond my affections.  


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The Valkyrie is pretty good with the TGI, the Argus I don't like at all.

The Argus is just to frustrating, that slow fire rate and insane kick, what were they thinking....
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The Valkyrie is pretty good with the TGI, the Argus I don't like at all.

The Argus is just to frustrating, that slow fire rate and insane kick, what were they thinking....

Something truly interesting, and wonderful...  :wub:



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IMO, the reason for the Harrier's popularity is the combination of overall good stats in all fields and the lack of gimmicks. Using it is as simple as pointing it towards a target and holding down the trigger button - no charge-up time, no arcing projectiles, no waiting for the next round to be chambered. It's a gun that synergises with your playstyle,not one that makes you build your playstyle around it. 


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Something truly interesting, and wonderful... :wub:


Heh I'm more thinking there was a meeting at Biovar where they were given the task to create a new AR :

Hey guys, they want us to create a really bad and frustrating AR!

Yeah, let's give this to that talented guy that designed the Incisor!
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Heh I'm more thinking there was a meeting at Biovar where they were given the task to create a new AR :
Hey guys, they want us to create a really bad and frustrating AR!
Yeah, let's give this to that talented guy that designed the Incisor!

This reminds me of one of the loading screen tips : Powerful guns have recoil. Use mods to steady your aim. Lulz Bioware must have had a BYOB party when creating these screens.

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Never been fond of the harrier, too much time spent leashed to ammo crates. Give me a mattock any day.



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The harrier? Really bad UR. Give me the Eagle any time (Almost identical damage per shot, more ammo). Seriously sick of hearing how OMGBS the Harrier is, it's not, it is garbage above Bronze. It is one of the best mook killers in the game, and that's about it. It will take your ENTIRE RESERVE AMMO to kill one boss unit. You get ALMOST as much damage out of the entire reserve ammo of the Avenger. (18k vs 20k, vs gold+ armour).

 

:? uhhh... pls tell me you're joking.  The Harrier is hands down, without question, indisputably, and by far the best all-around AR in the game.  period.  Oh and btw, if you're not using the harrier with extended barrel, extended mag, and AP ammo (need the double hits), you're doing it wrong.  My first ever gold speedrun attempt was with this weapon as a newb, and I still almost hit sub-20.

 



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 Seriously sick of hearing how OMGBS the Harrier is, it's not, it is garbage above Bronze. It is one of the best mook killers in the game, and that's about it. 

 

ok - what is the mod you have been using all the time,

or dubious host you play every game with ?

 

That's the only explanation for this statement.

 

 

Yet I am no big fan of the Harrier. 



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I only use it on my BatSol, with Damage Barrel, Omni-Blade, AP Ammo, and Grenade Capacity V.  The Batarian Passives make up for not taking the Extended Magazine, and even so, I run out of Grenades long before I run out of ammo.  The reload cancel is so fast that sustained fire is nearly continuous.

 

I think I might also have one on my N7 Demolisher, but only as a sidearm to her Claymore.


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... but only as a sidearm to her Claymore.

 

^^ Pure awesomesauce right there.  Sounds like a recipe for w-i-n.


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The harrier? Really bad UR. Give me the Eagle any time (Almost identical damage per shot, more ammo). Seriously sick of hearing how OMGBS the Harrier is, it's not, it is garbage above Bronze. It is one of the best mook killers in the game, and that's about it. It will take your ENTIRE RESERVE AMMO to kill one boss unit. You get ALMOST as much damage out of the entire reserve ammo of the Avenger. (18k vs 20k, vs gold+ armour).

EDIT: For comparison, Lancer is 10k/clip, Typhoon is about 50k for all reserve ammo, and Spitfire is 22k clip/100k for all reserve ammo)


Hahaha l2troll. Seriously XD

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The Harrier is hands down, without question, indisputably, and by far the best all-around AR in the game.  period.

 

Damn right.

 

It's so good I was considering respec'ing my Ghost without overload. 'Cause you know, who needs that shіt when you're using a Harrier???

 

Spoiler


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Damn right.

 

It's so good I was considering respec'ing my Ghost without overload. 'Cause you know, who needs that shіt when you're using a Harrier???

 

Spoiler

 

Saves some ammo.

 

I did briefly consider doing that though, largely because I like to run Typhoon on him.



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I can't really think of any AR except the Saber where the scope would make sense, but then again I prefer the thermal scope on the Saber for some wall hax. The normal AR scope is kind of strange.

 

The scope is good on the Valkyrie too.  The second shot seems to always be a little off target if you don't have an accuracy boosting power/mod, and it makes double-headshots more difficult to get.  The scope mostly fixes that problem.  Mostly.



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https://m.youtube.co...h?v=21H2ixopHLY

I wonder what the popular opinion on it would be had Bioware not boo boo'd on it's recoil. This is a video by a BSNer who shows what was meant for it.

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https://m.youtube.co...h?v=21H2ixopHLY

I wonder what the popular opinion on it would be had Bioware not boo boo'd on it's recoil. This is a video by a BSNer who shows what was meant for it.

 

They would cry such sweet tears.



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Salarian Master Race

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https://m.youtube.co...h?v=21H2ixopHLY

I wonder what the popular opinion on it would be had Bioware not boo boo'd on it's recoil. This is a video by a BSNer who shows what was meant for it.

 

I'd be ok with this.  unfixed bugs make me twitch more than usual



#49
The NightMan Cometh

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I consider myself an expert Harrier witness since I have completed it's challenge 43 times.in the assault rifle & an additional 12 times in Rebellion..I call myself to the stand.

 

 

This is the perfect assault rifle. I have used it on every single character.....tried every single weapon mod / amp / gear combos

 

Seriously try this...do a TGI Gold solo...put a scope on it..go full weapons damage + take head shot bonus...you will laugh at how much more accurate the bullets get & how quickly mooks..even shielded mooks die..unshielded 3-5 bullets..I kid you not

 

I don't normally put a scope on it..It doesnt need it..but it will cut down the amount of ammo box runs  

 

When I do use the Harrier..the mods vary depending on what character I am using & what I am trying to accomplish...am I going for fire splosions..or is it for.mopping up after biotic explosions..so on...this gun is perfectly balanced to do what it does...regardless of what anyone says of the ammo clip.

 

You can put this weapon on any character..and never even use your powers one single time & still achieve an incredibly high score.

 

The last time I used it..I put it on the volus engee...and I rarely if ever..detonated the recon mine..I kept the hate mail I got after that match.

 

Point of order..I remember when I would hear pugs talking about getting weapon upgrades and guess  what they wanted the most..every single conversation..the Harrier     everyone I talked with that didnt even have one at all..were.very angry


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#50
The NightMan Cometh

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The Valkyrie is pretty good with the TGI, the Argus I don't like at all.

The Argus is just to frustrating, that slow fire rate and insane kick, what were they thinking....

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LOL <---------->The Argus was a pre-order bonus.   

 

I like it..but then again I mainly use assault rifles..so I got very, very familiar with all of them..I completed the AR CP challenge 43 times

 

It just depends on what mods you use with it..I always put the stability / normal AP weapon mods..that pretty much handles the kick..so you really dont need any stability amps..I use it with a character with a stagger or stun power..Salarian bro = Energy Drain = Head Shot.  Incinerate...dance,dance = Head Shot

 

I think the argus was built for the slaying of mooks in mind.....but for using on bosses...meh....

 

I do totally understand why people dont like it. 


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