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[PIT_DEFENDER]

Servers the poor bioware right. Didnt come fromnowhere either, they should have not make a deal with the devil. they earn enough to deliver good product why deliver half?

[Shechinah]

If by "deal with the devil" you are referring to EA purchase of Bioware then I believe EA bought Bioware and another company from a private investment firm.

If you are referring to the Black Emporium and the Jaws of Hakkon then I'd imaging it would be difficult to release content that has not yet been developed at the time of the release.

[Majestic Jazz]

Poor Bioware - when they release content when certain other games happen not to, they are accused of trying to avoid competing and when they release content when certain other games happen to as well, they are accused of trying to competite.

Bioware seem to have a knack for always finding themselves attributed motives, agendas and conspiracies.

Either way, this isnt 2014 when DAI sweep everything due to it being a weak year in gaming. In Oct-Nov we have Halo 5, Fallout 4, TW3 1st expansion and so on. DAI's reputation isnt as strong as it was this time last year so I do not see the GOTY edition getting a bunch of sales.

[Elhanan]

Either way, this isnt 2014 when DAI sweep everything due to it being a weak year in gaming. In Oct-Nov we have Halo 5, Fallout 4, TW3 1st expansion and so on. DAI's reputation isnt as strong as it was this time last year so I do not see the GOTY edition getting a bunch of sales.

You did not see DAI doing very well either; best launch ever. Now it is GOTY Editions. May the sequels do as poorly....

[Mr.House]

Ah, very well done, EA & BioWare. Once again you show us how customer friendly you are.

 

What happens in 20 years when your servers are offline because there will be other companies having better market share and better customer support (which isn't difficult anyway)? Where do we get the DLC then?

 

Oh, and I'm still waiting for the DA 2 'Game of the year' edition. And Mass Effect.

Why would a flop get a GOTY edition?

[Majestic Jazz]

You did not see DAI doing very well either; best launch ever. Now it is GOTY Editions. May the sequels do as poorly....

I never said DAI didnt do well. I said in that it did well because:

#1 It was a novelty since it was the first "next gen" AAA rpg and everyone including me was excited for it.

#2 The GOTY awards came because it wasnt like there were any AAA games that were knocking it out of the water in 2014 prior to DAI so SOMEBODY had to win.

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All said, the rep/word out mouth for DAI is not as strong as it was this time last year. The honeymoon period is over and games like TW3 has given many a different perspective which takes away the novelty that vanilla DAI had last year. Dont get me wrong, there will be people who buy this, but not as much as EA probably wants. Halo 5, TW3 Hearts of Stone, and definately Fallout 4 will drown out any hype that DAI GOTY edition may have gotten.

[blahblahblah]

I never said DAI didnt do well. I said in that it did well because:
#1 It was a novelty since it was the first "next gen" AAA rpg and everyone including me was excited for it.
#2 The GOTY awards came because it wasnt like there were any AAA games that were knocking it out of the water in 2014 prior to DAI so SOMEBODY had to win.
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All said, the rep/word out mouth for DAI is not as strong as it was this time last year. The honeymoon period is over and games like TW3 has given many a different perspective which takes away the novelty that vanilla DAI had last year. Dont get me wrong, there will be people who buy this, but not as much as EA probably wants. Halo 5, TW3 Hearts of Stone, and definately Fallout 4 will drown out any hype that DAI GOTY edition may have gotten.

LOL, ME3 has the worst ending in a videogame ever made but it MADE money. Don't kid yourself that DAI is a failure since it has a GOTY edition.

[Majestic Jazz]

LOL, ME3 has the worst ending in a videogame ever made but it MADE money. Don't kid yourself that DAI is a failure since it has a GOTY edition.

#1 ME3 having the worse ending in videogame history is hyperbole.

#2 Where did I ever say that DAI is a failure because it is getting a GOTY edition?

[blahblahblah]

#1 ME3 having the worse ending in videogame history is hyperbole.

#2 Where did I ever say that DAI is a failure because it is getting a GOTY edition?

You will dismiss the fact that ME3 has the worst ending since you are a huge ME fanboy. You dismiss that DAI's success and it will not sell well since Halo 5, Witcher 3 or any videogame will be release at the same time but DAI has a competition with a lot of games last year.

[Mr.House]

Either way, this isnt 2014 when DAI sweep everything due to it being a weak year in gaming. In Oct-Nov we have Halo 5, Fallout 4, TW3 1st expansion and so on. DAI's reputation isnt as strong as it was this time last year so I do not see the GOTY edition getting a bunch of sales.

And there's nothing they can do as GOTY editions normally always come out at around this time, the only alternative is not releasing a GOTY edition and that would be the worse decision.

 

Also I doubt anyone really thinks the gOTY will sell like hot cakes, they never do. Most people who buy GOTY editions are

 

1:People waited for the  GOTY edition and where already interested in the game

2:Have the game but didn't buy any dlcs

 

It's very uncommon for there to be any other reason (not saying it does not happen but most numbers will be form those two camps) and I rather they DO a GOTY and not be like the ME team who never did one which forces you to pay an outrageous sum for the full package.

[Majestic Jazz]

You will dismiss the fact that ME3 has the worst ending since you are a huge ME fanboy. You dismiss that DAI's success and it will not sell well since Halo 5, Witcher 3 or any videogame will be release at the same time but DAI has a competition with a lot of games last year.

DAI did not have anything close to competition with the same level of anticipation as Halo 5 and Fallout 4.

[Mr.House]

You will dismiss the fact that ME3 has the worst ending since you are a huge ME fanboy. You dismiss that DAI's success and it will not sell well since Halo 5, Witcher 3 or any videogame will be release at the same time but DAI has a competition with a lot of games last year.

ME3 does not have the worst ending and I hated the ending and sorry but 2014 was a very bad year for gaming with very limited amount of good games. TW3s expac and FO4 WILL be extreamly strong competition.

[blahblahblah]

ME3 does not have the worst ending and I hated the ending and sorry but 2014 was a very bad year for gaming with very limited amount of good games. TW3s expac and FO4 WILL be extreamly strong competition.

Yeah sure but lets not dismiss that DAI is not a bad game.

 

DAI did not have anything close to competition with the same level of anticipation as Halo 5 and Fallout 4.

Whatever.

[Majestic Jazz]

Yeah sure but lets not dismiss that DAI is not a bad game.

Nobody said DAI was a bad game. I just said that DAI does not have the strong support as it did back last year when it was the only AAA next gen rpg on the market. With TW3 already out (and Hearts of Stone xpac coming in OCT) ad well as Fallout 4 in NOV, DAI's novelty has worn out and now people with limited time have options that werent available back in NOV 2014.

[blahblahblah]

Nobody said DAI was a bad game. I just said that DAI does not have the strong support as it did back last year when it was the only AAA next gen rpg on the market. With TW3 already out (and Hearts of Stone xpac coming in OCT) ad well as Fallout 4 in NOV, DAI's novelty has worn out and now people with limited time have options that werent available back in NOV 2014.

LOL, you always shout that DAI is terrible game both you and Dutch. 

[chrstnmonks]

Yes, the correct line should have been "creating one copy/pasted from someone else's novels game franchise does not a successful developer make". It's ironic, they made a game out of someone else's novels, using BioWare's engine, and they're the best thing since sliced bread...

I've said it before, but it bears repeating, let me know how their original IP goes, I wonder, is it adviseable to hold your breath while you wait?

So i guess you have has much contempt for Bioware when they make successful Star War Games and Baldur Gate Games ? That would also qualify has using someone else's novels, settings, not to mention rulesets, lore and characters.

[sniper_arrow]

LOL, you always shout that DAI is terrible game both you and Dutch. 

 

They secretly love the game. They just don't want to admit it for some reason.

[KaiserShep]

They secretly love the game. They just don't want to admit it for some reason.

 

Like pulling the game's proverbial pigtails. Push it in the mud and you know it's love.

[robertthebard]

So i guess you have has much contempt for Bioware when they make successful Star War Games and Baldur Gate Games ? That would also qualify has using someone else's novels, settings, not to mention rulesets, lore and characters.

Really? After all this time, and this is what you come at me with?

1. KotoR was an original IP set in Lucas' universe. It predates all of the movies by around 3300 years. The MMO takes place 300 years after KotoR, but 3000 years before the movies. Let's compare shall we? Is Geralt an orginal character set in the universe, or was he the protagonist from the books? Oh, he's the protagonist in the books, and all the main storyline from the games comes directly from the books? I can see how you'd be confused on that point.

2. Baldur's Gate was an original story also set in a familiar setting. However, since you want to try to claim "but it was a copy/paste job", go ahead and link me to the novels that tell the story set up in BG 1/2. I'll wait.

I don't know why I expected something relevant to anything to come from a Witcher spamboy, but really, you could have done a lot better than trying to throw out some hyperbole thinking to baffle me with bullshit. While we're on this however, I'm betting that CDPR was glad as hell that BW developed BG and ultimately NWN, because they used the Aurora Engine to make TW, and guess where that engine came from: BioWare.

[Al Foley]

Nobody said DAI was a bad game. I just said that DAI does not have the strong support as it did back last year when it was the only AAA next gen rpg on the market. With TW3 already out (and Hearts of Stone xpac coming in OCT) ad well as Fallout 4 in NOV, DAI's novelty has worn out and now people with limited time have options that werent available back in NOV 2014.

And yet I am still playing DA I. 

[Majestic Jazz]

Really? After all this time, and this is what you come at me with?

1. KotoR was an original IP set in Lucas' universe. It predates all of the movies by around 3300 years. The MMO takes place 300 years after KotoR, but 3000 years before the movies. Let's compare shall we? Is Geralt an orginal character set in the universe, or was he the protagonist from the books? Oh, he's the protagonist in the books, and all the main storyline from the games comes directly from the books? I can see how you'd be confused on that point.

2. Baldur's Gate was an original story also set in a familiar setting. However, since you want to try to claim "but it was a copy/paste job", go ahead and link me to the novels that tell the story set up in BG 1/2. I'll wait.

I don't know why I expected something relevant to anything to come from a Witcher spamboy, but really, you could have done a lot better than trying to throw out some hyperbole thinking to baffle me with bullshit. While we're on this however, I'm betting that CDPR was glad as hell that BW developed BG and ultimately NWN, because they used the Aurora Engine to make TW, and guess where that engine came from: BioWare.

To be fair, The Witcher games are not copy & paste of the novels. While all 3 games uses the chracters, lore, and settings from the novels, the stories in the game takes place AFTER the events in the books. They are spiritual sequels to the novels with their own unique stories that are self contained.

Besides, what point are you trying to make? TW3 is a major hit both critcally and financially. I could careless if it is an original IP or not. I care wheter or not the gameplay is fun, open world is immersive, side quest are interesting, graphics are immersive, and story is good. To me, thats all that matters and for the 1st six weeks of its launch, thats all that mattered to the 6 million people that bought TW3 and thats all that mattered to the professional reviewers who gave TW3 higher review scores than DAI.

You may not be bullish on TW3 or CDPR and thats fine. But you are digging for reasons to discredit CDPR and their success with TW3 because it isnt "their own" IP and frankly it makes you look desperate. At the end of the day, I doubt the average owner of TW3 or fan of CDPR really cares.

And yet I am still playing DA I.

Amd your point? I never said that everyone hates DAI or that nobody plays DAI anymore. I only said that it isnt as popular now as it was before because the novelty of being the 1st and only AAA next gen RPG has worn off and with games like TW3 out (and its 2 upcoming expansions) as well as Fallout 4 coming in NOV, the lure of DAI isnt as strong as it once was and thus releasing the DAI GOTY Edition in the same timeframe as The Witcher 3: Hearts of Stone and Fallout 4 could prove to be a financial failure for EA as gamers will now have other options, options that werent available in Nov 2014 when DAI 1st came out.

[Elhanan]

The release of other games at this time is NOT going to create some vortex that will make DAI a financial ruin. Having choices are a plus for the consumer; not some imagined detriment.

[Majestic Jazz]

The release of other games at this time is NOT going to create some vortex that will make DAI a financial ruin. Having choices are a plus for the consumer; not some imagined detriment.

For the consumer it is great to have these options. But for EA financially, it will be tough trying to compete with Fallout 4 and perhaps TW3: HoS.

[Elhanan]

For the consumer it is great to have these options. But for EA financially, it will be tough trying to compete with Fallout 4 and perhaps TW3: HoS.

Perhaps, but am not getting any of these myself; already have DAI + DLC, and have no desire for the others. Personally am waiting on SkyWind and XCOM 2.

[Al Foley]

To be fair, The Witcher games are not copy & paste of the novels. While all 3 games uses the chracters, lore, and settings from the novels, the stories in the game takes place AFTER the events in the books. They are spiritual sequels to the novels with their own unique stories that are self contained.

Besides, what point are you trying to make? TW3 is a major hit both critcally and financially. I could careless if it is an original IP or not. I care wheter or not the gameplay is fun, open world is immersive, side quest are interesting, graphics are immersive, and story is good. To me, thats all that matters and for the 1st six weeks of its launch, thats all that mattered to the 6 million people that bought TW3 and thats all that mattered to the professional reviewers who gave TW3 higher review scores than DAI.

You may not be bullish on TW3 or CDPR and thats fine. But you are digging for reasons to discredit CDPR and their success with TW3 because it isnt "their own" IP and frankly it makes you look desperate. At the end of the day, I doubt the average owner of TW3 or fan of CDPR really cares.



Amd your point? I never said that everyone hates DAI or that nobody plays DAI anymore. I only said that it isnt as popular now as it was before because the novelty of being the 1st and only AAA next gen RPG has worn off and with games like TW3 out (and its 2 upcoming expansions) as well as Fallout 4 coming in NOV, the lure of DAI isnt as strong as it once was and thus releasing the DAI GOTY Edition in the same timeframe as The Witcher 3: Hearts of Stone and Fallout 4 could prove to be a financial failure for EA as gamers will now have other options, options that werent available in Nov 2014 when DAI 1st came out.

...I am suffering from a severe case of deja vu at all the posts and threads of "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING THEY ARE RELEASING IT NEXT TO SO MANY TRIPPLE A TITLES THEY ARE GOING TO GET CREAMED"  Mind you the circumstances are different but its virtually the same argument.