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[Mr.House]

hmmm nope.

that's not true.

 

but I'm glad they started making a GOTY with all dlcs edition. thanks to this release I'm 100% positive I will wait for ME:A GOTY release.

I would agree, but with Trespasser? that PR line is true now.

[Googleness]

your choices does not matter in this game you are railroaded through the plot with minor variances and there ain't much you can choose or do.

 

mages \ templars? biggest choice and still no difference.

Ruler of orlais? no impact.

 

bottom line the 2 main endings of this game (corfish battle and meeting solas in last dlc) can be played directly without doing anything else or do every other quest you'll get same result.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

They dont rly matter but it feels like they are, isnt that he point ?

 

The most enjoyable part is when you tell ppl what to do or you kill innocents on your whim XD

[Al Foley]

your choices does not matter in this game you are railroaded through the plot with minor variances and there ain't much you can choose or do.

 

mages \ templars? biggest choice and still no difference.

Ruler of orlais? no impact.

 

bottom line the 2 main endings of this game (corfish battle and meeting solas in last dlc) can be played directly without doing anything else or do every other quest you'll get same result.

Which is the same thing that happens with every single RPG I have ever played or experienced.  Now mind you Witcher 3 could be different but even then I kind of doubt it.  

[leaguer of one]

No, people who want to see Bioware improve their work bring up witcher praise in certain areas that Bioware needs to improve. Not everyone who brings up witcher is like Dutch(and people like that should be ignored). Side missions, art design and animation needs to be improved big time in future games.

People who use this argumen and bring this up miss a huge amount on detail of this.

 

1. Witcher and DA are different games with different goals. It's like pointing a pitcher to an actions of a quarter back and tell them to do that to improve.

 

2. Added most criticism don't point out what needs to be improved when to just point to witcher.

[Googleness]

Which is the same thing that happens with every single RPG I have ever played or experienced.  Now mind you Witcher 3 could be different but even then I kind of doubt it.  

 

Ever played BG2: TOB or NWN2? 

just two examples to refresh your mind.

 

and I loathe the witcher series... bloated game client with weird plot that decided you know everyone and horrible controls.

[LaughingWolf]

Do we know if you can use old save files with the GOTY edition? So can I continue a current playthrough on the GOTY edition with all the DLC?

 

Edit: Same thing with the Golden Nug; do my saved schematics transfer over to all new playthroughs on the GOTY edition?

[Al Foley]

People who use this argumen and bring this up miss a huge amount on detail of this.

 

1. Witcher and DA are different games with different goals. It's like pointing a pitcher to an actions of a quarter back and tell them to do that to improve.

 

2. Added most criticism don't point out what needs to be improved when to just point to witcher.

Except what Mr. House is asking to improve is something common to all video games. 

 

Ever played BG2: TOB or NWN2? 

just two examples to refresh your mind.

 

and I loathe the witcher series... bloated game client with weird plot that decided you know everyone and horrible controls.

Nah my first RPG was ME 2...so...I'm a bit new.

[leaguer of one]

your choices does not matter in this game you are railroaded through the plot with minor variances and there ain't much you can choose or do.

 

mages \ templars? biggest choice and still no difference.

Ruler of orlais? no impact.

 

bottom line the 2 main endings of this game (corfish battle and meeting solas in last dlc) can be played directly without doing anything else or do every other quest you'll get same result.

But that's the same with witcher 3. You don't get a new last boss or go to different places and event due to your actions. You go to the same places and you action allow  different variances in the story of witcher no matter what.

[countofhell]

In every way, I feel like BW despite its best efforts have never really created an Immersive and belivable world, it all still feels like its just manequins standing around you, while when i play witcher I feel more like if I was walking around in real world, the lack of converstion camera also makes it feel like if I was playing Diablo
I dont know exactly what did they do wrong in DAI but it just feels plastic.

 

It is an improvement from DA2 though.

W3 is a fantastic and lively, medieval world but everywhere you can find a doubler of the same character model just like in Deus Ex HR.

[CoM Solaufein]

Nothing extra that I don't already have. Base game, all DLCs and most of the extra content. Not worth spending money on something I already have and get nothing new for it.

[leaguer of one]

Ever played BG2: TOB or NWN2? 

just two examples to refresh your mind.

 

and I loathe the witcher series... bloated game client with weird plot that decided you know everyone and horrible controls.

I did and the plot does not change based on you actions. How you get to point a to b changes but the plot stays the same with some variety.

[Googleness]

Except what Mr. House is asking to improve is something common to all video games. 

 

Nah my first RPG was ME 2...so...I'm a bit new.

 

well young grass hopper if me2 was your first you missed the entire foundation of computer rpgs and bioware games.

 

I would highly recommend you'll play the bladur's gate series... most notable famous game from bioware.

 

then I'll recommend Neverwinter nights 1 the campaign of the original game was bit lame but it's the foundation to the plot of NWN2 which had awesome sauce campaign. then NWN1 expansion packs are amazing as well...

the premium dlcs such as pirates of the sword coast are MUST.

 

Next you'll want to try Jade Empire one of the most amazing rpg's in gaming history by my humble opinion. 

 

Another game which you've missed but I consider must is Planescape torment... it's just that good.

 

If you never played ME1 or DA:O you'll want to try those as well they have amazing moments.

 

 

But that's the same with witcher 3. You don't get a new last boss or go to different places and event due to your actions. You go to the same places and you action allow  different variances in the story of witcher no matter what.

 

 

as I've said witcher series sucks imho and I don't compare it to anything.

I played the witcher 1 and that's it... though I own the witcher 2 never completed it as it was horrible game.

[Mr.House]

Except what Mr. House is asking to improve is something common to all video games. 

 

Nah my first RPG was ME 2...so...I'm a bit new.

Nah apparently witcher series is a whole new breed of gaming that side quest, art design and animations is alien to all other games and other rpg companies should not look at it to improve their own areas that they are weak in.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

I am surprised u didnt give up after playing ME2 its the poorest one in BW collection

 

 you could say GTA5 and DA re different but Witcher and DA are fairly similar to me, and we mainly point out the quiality issues that werent adressed even tought BW joined the all wealthy EA and rised the price of game to 70 euros.

 

The main thing I see is difference in community aproach, one Studio focuses on dlivering a good game while other on Delivering a casual thing that doesnt work in man areas and its main feature is DUENOVO xD

 

Yes Iam predjuced but you can see i have my reasons XD

[Al Foley]

well young grass hopper if me2 was your first you missed the entire foundation of computer rpgs and bioware games.

 

I would highly recommend you'll play the bladur's gate series... most notable famous game from bioware.

 

then I'll recommend Neverwinter nights 1 the campaign of the original game was bit lame but it's the foundation to the plot of NWN2 which had awesome sauce campaign. then NWN1 expansion packs are amazing as well...

the premium dlcs such as pirates of the sword coast are MUST.

 

Next you'll want to try Jade Empire one of the most amazing rpg's in gaming history by my humble opinion. 

 

Another game which you've missed but I consider must is Planescape torment... it's just that good.

 

If you never played ME1 or DA:O you'll want to try those as well they have amazing moments.

 

 

 

 

as I've said witcher series sucks imho and I don't compare it to anything.

I played the witcher 1 and that's it... though I own the witcher 2 never completed it as it was horrible game.

I have played ME 1 and DA O.

[Mr.House]

well young grass hopper if me2 was your first you missed the entire foundation of computer rpgs and bioware games.

 

I would highly recommend you'll play the bladur's gate series... most notable famous game from bioware.

 

then I'll recommend Neverwinter nights 1 the campaign of the original game was bit lame but it's the foundation to the plot of NWN2 which had awesome sauce campaign. then NWN1 expansion packs are amazing as well...

the premium dlcs such as pirates of the sword coast are MUST.

 

Next you'll want to try Jade Empire one of the most amazing rpg's in gaming history by my humble opinion. 

 

Another game which you've missed but I consider must is Planescape torment... it's just that good.

 

If you never played ME1 or DA:O you'll want to try those as well they have amazing moments.

 

 

 

 

as I've said witcher series sucks imho and I don't compare it to anything.

I played the witcher 1 and that's it... though I own the witcher 2 never completed it as it was horrible game.

TW2 narrative changes depending on which choice you make in act 1 which massively changes act 2 and 3 with unique locations, side quests, main quests and story reveals that you can't get on one playthrough so I don't see how that's "horrible".

[Al Foley]

I am surprised u didnt give up after playing ME2 its the poorest one in BW collection

 

 you could say GTA5 and DA re different but Witcher and DA are fairly similar to me, and we mainly point out the quiality issues that werent adressed even tought BW joined the all wealthy EA and rised the price of game to 70 euros.

 

The main thing I see is difference in community aproach, one Studio focuses on dlivering a good game while other on Delivering a casual thing that doesnt work in man areas and its main feature is DUENOVO xD

 

Yes Iam predjuced but you can see i have my reasons XD

Its my second favorite game of all time.  

[Abyss108]

well young grass hopper if me2 was your first you missed the entire foundation of computer rpgs and bioware games.

 

I would highly recommend you'll play the bladur's gate series... most notable famous game from bioware.

 

then I'll recommend Neverwinter nights 1 the campaign of the original game was bit lame but it's the foundation to the plot of NWN2 which had awesome sauce campaign. then NWN1 expansion packs are amazing as well...

the premium dlcs such as pirates of the sword coast are MUST.

 

Next you'll want to try Jade Empire one of the most amazing rpg's in gaming history by my humble opinion. 

 

Another game which you've missed but I consider must is Planescape torment... it's just that good.

 

If you never played ME1 or DA:O you'll want to try those as well they have amazing moments.

 

 

You keep naming games that do exactly the same thing, with your choices not meaning anything... 

[Jaison1986]

Hmm, I might get it. I wanted to get an PS4 soon, and my PC has been freaking out as of late, not to mention I only have JoH. This might be an good opportunity to switch plataforms and get both descent and trespasser.

[Googleness]

I did and the plot does not change based on you actions. How you get to point a to b changes but the plot stays the same with some variety.

 

now you are just trolling,

let's take NWN2 and I'll give you 4 points (there are many many many more) where the plot changes according to your choices.

 

1. in first town when the kobolds attacks you can save your friends family or let them die and kill the kobolds.

2. in NWN you can side with the thieves guild and become a shadow theif of amn while getting loads of other quests or join the city guards and become guard captain with entire line of missions.

3. In the trial phase acoording to your prior choices you could get a different knight to guide you through your vigil... and then the trial itself! a masterpiece of quest where the entire outcome is dependent on your choice up to that point throughout the game!

4. final boss: You can kill the king of shadows (main villain) or join to him and kill all your companions... now I don't see the option to join coryfish or solas here.

 

NWN2 had plenty of such moments.

 

in BG series there are mind blowing amounts of such choices as well.

Jade empire had 3 distinct endings which are dependent upon your choices up to the final fight.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

 

 

 

 

Lol dont play What Google told you these games are too old to start now youll give up on RPG totaly

 

though if ur going to try nwn rather go for Knights of the old republic, same story better setting and better graphic XD

 

Also The old republic mmo game has best stories BW wrote IMO xD and its free to play expecialy try Bounty hunter and Agent xD

 

 

Try Witcher games if you NEEEED your choices too matter, they actualy change stuff there.

[Googleness]

You keep naming games that do exactly the same thing, with your choices not meaning anything... 

 

Keep reading I give many examples from those games throughout this topic.

 

 

TW2 narrative changes depending on which choice you make in act 1 which massively changes act 2 and 3 with unique locations, side quests, main quests and story reveals that you can't get on one playthrough so I don't see how that's "horrible".

 

 

never got past act 1 it was not fun... didn't even finished the main quest of the first village.

[Googleness]

Lol dont play What Google told you these games are too old to start now youll give up on RPG totaly

 

though if ur going to try nwn rather go for Knights of the old republic, same story better setting and better graphic XD

 

Also The old republic mmo game has best stories BW wrote IMO xD and its free to play expecialy try Bounty hunter and Agent xD

 

NWN is DND based game set in forgotten realms,

KOTOR is d20 game based in old republic era of the star wars universe.

they have different settings.

 

graphics have nothing to do with how good the game is or the story is.... if graphics are your concern then rpg is the wrong genre for you.

[Dabrikishaw]

I'll definitely get this when I get my PS4.

Same.