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#51
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 The Salarians eventually solved that problem. Genophage worked just fine in preventing another rebellion. The Asari did what any other species/civilization would've done. Kept it to themselves. The law was penned long after the Asari discovered the beacon. That thing was found on their homeworld before they discovered the Citadel.

No, the Turians cleaned up that problem. The Salarians created the Genophage, but then decided not to use it but the Turians used it anyway.  



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Does anyone else have some love for Admiral Koris? I really love his voice and he wears the name "Qwib-Qwib" like a champ.


I was indeed in love with that voice.
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And why did they have to do it alone? Possibly because they broke a serious galactic law (in spite of the Council). Coulda, woulda, shoulda. They made their bed, they should've laid in it.


The quarians pleaded for help from the council. They were denied and stripped of their embassy.
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No, the Turians cleaned up that problem. The Salarians created the Genophage, but then decided not to use it but the Turians used it anyway.  

 Not quite. All the Turians did was push the button. Had the Salarians not created the Genophage, there would've been no solution. Nonetheless, the Salarians created a solution (horrific as it is), while the Quarians just packed up and ran. 



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The quarians pleaded for help from the council. They were denied and stripped of their embassy.

 and the post you quoted addresses why. They did a big no no.



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This thread needs more pictures.

 

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 Not quite. All the Turians did was push the button. Had the Salarians not created the Genophage, there would've been no solution. Nonetheless, the Salarians created a solution (horrific as it is), while the Quarians just packed up and ran. 

The Quarians only ran because the Geth were more powerful, similar to how Council races fled worlds during the Krogan Rebellions. Then they spent the next three centuries trying to figure out a solution on how to stop the Geth eventually developing that code that scrambles their connection. And unlike the Salarians who just took credit for what the Turians did, the Quarians actually used the thing they created to try to stop their enemy themselves.

 

And as pointed out, the Salarians haven't even learned from their mistake since we see them looking into uplifting the Yahg, a race even more dangerous than the Krogan. 



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The Quarians only ran because the Geth were more powerful, similar to how Council races fled worlds during the Krogan Rebellions. Then they spent the next three centuries trying to figure out a solution on how to stop the Geth eventually developing that code that scrambles their connection. And unlike the Salarians who just took credit for what the Turians did, the Quarians actually used the thing they created to try to stop their enemy themselves.

 Took 'em three centuries to find a solution. Used it and it still didn't work. Too little too late.

 

The salarians took credit where credit was due. They created the Genophage and it actually worked. A lone Turian pushed the button. 



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And as pointed out, the Salarians haven't even learned from their mistake since we see them looking into uplifting the Yahg, a race even more dangerous than the Krogan. 

 of course they've learned. The best way to control an out-of-control uplifted species is to attack their reproduction. That'll get them in line ricky-tick.



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Give me more Daro'Xen vas Moreh like quarians and i'm content. :wub:


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Pictures of quarians - not a reaper in a toupee. ;)

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 Took 'em three centuries to find a solution. Used it and it still didn't work. Too little too late.

 

The salarians took credit where credit was due. They created the Genophage and it actually worked. A lone Turian pushed the button. 

It was working great. They drove the Geth to the verge of extinction, pushing them back to Rannoch. It only stopped working when in desperation the Geth accepted aid from the Reapers. If the Reapers helped the Krogan, the Salarian and Turian plan wouldn't have worked either. 

 

Thus it was the Turians that solved the Krogan problem. Having the solution but not using it doesn't give you credit for it. On a test, you can have the solution to a problem but not using that answer still gets you marked as not solving it. 

 

 of course they've learned. The best way to control and out of control uplifted species is to attack their reproduction. That'll get them in line ricky-tick.

The Salarians showed no signs of doing that. 

 

Edit: This is weird. I usually don't defend Quarians. 



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Pictures of quarians - not a reaper in a toupee. ;)

Hey, that was uncalled for. Insulting the Reapers by comparing them to Trump like that. 


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Hey, that was uncalled for. Insulting the Reapers by comparing them to Trump like that.


Very true. I have maligned their people with what can only be described as something worse than a reaper.

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and the post you quoted addresses why. They did a big no no.

But then this basically boils down to a mere technicality. The salarians essentially did the exact same thing by cultivating a superviolent race of shock troops, just like the protheans did with the rachni, and the salarians are attempting to do again with the yagh. In the end, ignoring the pleas for sake of their AI law ended up costing them as well.

But it's funny about the yahg, because they are in a great many ways worse than the krogan, because they're much more intelligent and more organized than they could ever hope to be. They can't even be lied to, because their perceptiveness exceeds that of most species. If an uplifted militarized force of yahg decided they didn't want to be tools for frogs and decided they were going to strike at them, they'd likely attack them the same exact way the salarian STG would, without the bang and bluster of a krogan invasion, and would likely be without any warning whatsoever. Heck a single disgruntled yahg might just launch a sneak attack to simply assassinate the dalatrass and other forms of leadership.
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It was working great. They drove the Geth to the verge of extinction, pushing them back to Rannoch. It only stopped working when in desperation the Geth accepted aid from the Reapers. 

 As I said, too little too late.

 

 

 

Thus it was the Turians that solved the Krogan problem. Having the solution but not using it doesn't give you credit for it. On a test, you can have the solution to a problem but not using that answer still gets you marked as not solving it. 

 When the consensus opinion of an entire species is that creating the Genophage and using it was the right call, does it really matter if an individual salarian got cold feet with his finger on a button, and so an individual Turian came in and pushed it. No, it doesn't. They created it. It was used. Problem solved. By your logic the Turians should get all the credit because some guy stepped up and pushed a button. And the Salarians shouldn't get any because one pansy among them couldn't bring himself to do it.

 

 

 

The Salarians showed no signs of doing that. 

 Never said they did. Just stated that they know how to deal with it (from experience).



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But then this basically boils down to a mere technicality. 

 The technicality (as far as my point goes) being the fact that some people clean up their mess. And others run from it. Both deserve blame, one deserves much more for doing nothing about it. They're different. 

 

I never said uplifting organic species was a bright idea. However, there's a reason that AI's are banned. Quarians essentially spit in the face of the Council and galactic law. I do agree though, shunning the Quarians didn't help in the end. But it was understandable.



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 As I said, too little too late.

Then the Genophage was also too little too late.

 

When the consensus opinion of an entire species is that creating the Genophage and using it was the right call, does it really matter if an individual salarian got cold feet with his finger on a button, and so an individual Turian came in and pushed it. No, it doesn't. They created it. It was used. Problem solved. By your logic the Turians should get all the credit because some guy stepped up and pushed a button. And the Salarians shouldn't get any because one pansy among them couldn't bring himself to do it.

First, where is it said the entire species consented that it was the right call? 

Second, it wasn't just that Salarian. That Salarian states that the Salarian government hadn't authorized its use. The entire Salarian leadership "got cold feet". 

 

Yes, the Turians deserve the credit for stopping the Krogan Rebellions because it was the Turians that stopped them. The Turians drove the Krogan back to Tuchanka and the Turians were the ones who eliminated the Krogan's ability to wage war. In the lore they are even given all the credit, their actions resulting in granting them a seat on the Citadel Council. The Salarians deserve no credit since they created the problem in the first place and the government couldn't bring themselves to use the Genophage they made to fix it. 



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Damn it guys, stop derailing the thread by arguing about salarians, turians and krogan this thread is to appreciate quarians. 

 

Here is my favourite Quarian Kal'Reegar he never gave in when it counted the most ensuring Tali's safety and the mission's success on Haestrom and again on Palaven during the Reaper War. Also being voiced by Adam Baldwin is a plus too. 

 

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Then the Genophage was also too little too late.

 No, it wasn't. It got the krogans in check. The Quarians solution didn't get the Geth in check. It was too late. They took 3 centuries, and by that time, the Reapers had arrived.

 

 

 

 

First, where is it said the entire species consented that it was the right call? 

 

 I didn't say an entire species consented. I said the consensus opinion. Meaning general opinion is that it had to be done. And I wasn't speaking of the exact moment the impatient Turian jerk-off jumped in and pushed the button. I was speaking of consensus among Salarians throughout the time the Shepard Trilogy takes place (a long time after the Krogan rebellions). 

 

And the Turians aren't given full credit for victory in the rebellions throughout the trilogy. They were given credit for their military prowess, sure. But the  Genophage and Salarians are synonymous with one another throughout the galactic community. 

 

It's worth noting that for the majority of the trilogy we are led to believe that the Salarians were  all about the Genophage. They believe it had to be done. Not until the final DLC of the entire trilogy did we get an specific detail of what went down. Turns out that we'll never know because the Turians took action instead of waiting for an order to come through. We'll never know if the Salarian government intended to use it as a deterrent or if they would've actually given the word to use it had the Turians waited a few moments. Either way. They created a solution and kept involved with it up until present day (as Mordin will attest)

 

Hardly can be applied to the Quarians. To say finding a solution to the Geth problem was a polarizing subject amongst the species, would not give it its proper due. Tali's trial illustrates it nicely.



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Damn it guys, stop derailing the thread by arguing about salarians, turians and krogan this thread is to appreciate quarians. 

 

Here is my favourite Quarian Kal'Reegar he never gave in when it counted the most ensuring Tali's safety and the mission's success on Haestrom and again on Palaven during the Reaper War. Also being voiced by Adam Baldwin is a plus too. 

 

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 Sorry bud. I threw a jab out at your beloved Quarians on the first page (all in good fun). Seems some took it to heart and want to debate whether they're truly the biggest screw-ups in our cycle. I obliged. I really don't have a problem with the Quarians though. They're lovable screw-ups with one of the more interesting cultures in the MEU. One of my favorites.



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Damn it guys, stop derailing the thread by arguing about salarians, turians and krogan this thread is to appreciate quarians. 
 
Here is my favourite Quarian Kal'Reegar he never gave in when it counted the most ensuring Tali's safety and the mission's success on Haestrom and again on Palaven during the Reaper War. Also being voiced by Adam Baldwin is a plus too. 
 
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I really liked that character - in fact, I was sort of shipping him with Tali for awhile.

Receiving that message about his fate in ME3 was a bummer.
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I SUPPORT ANY AND ALL QUARIANS IN ANDROMEDA this has been a psa



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Unless they just flush a toilet on some ship somewhere and end up in Andromeda (don't laugh, the MAC is leading this), I do think I would prefer a number of technically inclined quarians going along.