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[Snowy-Ninja]

Corypheus uses Red Templars, Venatori, somehow gets a Nightmare and Envy demon on his side and has a red lyrium dragon but why does he never use the Darkspawn? It just seems like it would make much more sense, he had (in DA2) dwarves drinking darkspawn blood and could affect Anders and the Wardens in DAI so I assume like the Architect he could use Darkspawn.

Does he not have the same abilities as the Architect? (its confirmed the Architect is a darkspawn magister like Corypheus) 

Does he not know he can use Darkspawn?

Or is this a matter of pride? 

 

Or just Bioware not using Darkspawn for plot reasons? 

[LightningPoodle]

Having Darkspawn play a massive part again might have felt like repetition. Origins had them as a main threat. If that were the same in Inquisition, we'd just be going through the same steps.

 

Well, that's what I think, anyway.

[lynroy]

Darkspawn also corrupt everything they touch. Corypheus doesn't want to be self proclaimed god over a blighted world. Well, I'm assuming at least.

[Snowy-Ninja]

Having Darkspawn play a massive part again might have felt like repetition. Origins had them as a main threat. If that were the same in Inquisition, we'd just be going through the same steps.

 

Well, that's what I think, anyway.

 

I suppose it makes sense that wouldn't want to make DAI to similar to Origins, I hadn't even thought of that to be honest! 
 

 

Darkspawn also corrupt everything they touch. Corypheus doesn't want to be self proclaimed god over a blighted world. Well, I'm assuming at least.

I don't know. He knows what he is and what is power is I don't think he cares for much other then being a god. I doubt he cares to much for his people, he didn't seem to in the In Hushed whispers mission.

[Captmorgan72]

I remember Corypheus hating darkspawn. He doesn't seem himself as one of those blighted monsters. 

[Aulis Vaara]

Having Darkspawn play a massive part again might have felt like repetition. Origins had them as a main threat. If that were the same in Inquisition, we'd just be going through the same steps.
 
Well, that's what I think, anyway.

So, you think Trespasser was a retread of Act 2 of Dragon Age 2?

[LightningPoodle]

So, you think Trespasser was a retread of Act 2 of Dragon Age 2?

 

I haven't played Trespasser yet.

[BillyBanana]

Dragon Age Wiki on the Architect says that other Darkspawn sees him with fear cause hes independent of the call and therefore obey him to some extent. "However if their blood lust comes to a point, it is unable to control them."

Maybe It's the same for Cory. On the other hand Cory was able to create a false version of the calling with the help of Nightmare which made Wardens go crazy so I dont know why he couldnt do something similar to Darkspawn.

[thats1evildude]

As I've said before, Corypheus thinks like the man he was and not the darkspawn he is. He denies any kinship with the darkspawn. He imagines himself a god, and while he might coerce some into following him, the darkspawn would not worship him.

Also, even if can exercise perfect control over the darkspawn - the Architect sure couldn't - they are kind of a blunt weapon. They're very good at killing, but that's all they can do. You certainly can't send a darkspawn to investigate an elven ruin or infiltrate an Orlesian palace.

Finally, the darkspawn are universally despised and hated. Do you think his followers would remain loyal if he started bringing hordes of darkspawn to the surface?

[Serza]

I haven't played Trespasser yet.

 

Basically, Qunari threat.

 

Hey, not a spoiler, they say that during advertising!

[TraiHarder]

As I've said before, Corypheus thinks like the man he was and not the darkspawn he is. He denies any kinship with the darkspawn. He imagines himself a god, and while he might coerce some into following him, the darkspawn woukd not worship him.

Also, even if can exercise perfect control over the darkspawn - the Architect sure couldn't - they are kind of a blunt weapon. They're very good at killing, but that's all they can do. You certainly can't send a darkspawn to investigate an elven ruin or infiltrate an Orlesian palace.

Finally, the darkspawn are universally despised and hated. Do you think his followers would remain loyal if he started bringing hordes of darkspawn to the surface?

 

I don't believe that Cory saw himself as a God since he constantly says he was trying to obtain the power of a God and all. As for controlling the Darkspawn I wouldn't know if he could like you said do it with 100% control. But who needs a human army when you have a Darkspawn army lol. They are far more dangerous in a full scale battle than humans due to their blood being everywhere alone.

[Aulis Vaara]

I haven't played Trespasser yet.

In that case, did you think Corypheus was just a rethread of the Architect?

[LightningPoodle]

In that case, did you think Corypheus was just a rethread of the Architect?

 

No. It could have easily followed the exact same thing as Origins though. Darkspawn threat. Gain allies to fight it. Just swap out the Archdemon for Corypheus and you've got a similar plot going on...

[fhs33721]

Because he actually wants to rule over something once he is a god? Something else than mindless killing machines that corrupt everything they touch and a blighted wasteland. He wants to recreate the old Tevinter Imperium which was populated by humans and elves (and maybe quite a few demons during their weekly blood magic rituals) and not Darkspawn.

And no, In Hushed Whispers in not the future Corypheus actually envisions. In fact codex entries there reveal that while he initially did manage to conquer Fereldan and Orlais the breach kind of rained on his parade and he has lost all control over the hordes of raging demons everywhere. The whole godhood thing probably didn't work out either. That's why he orders Alexius to go back in time and prevent the breach from happening. But Alexius can't and Corypheus is really pissed at him because of it.

[Daerog]

The Architect was only able to assemble a fighting force or army due to his experiments and the creation of the Disciples.

 

Archie could only command those around him due to their fear of him, but he can't give them complex commands to be carried out. He had to set up Disciples for that.

 

Cory never ran into Archie as Cory was imprisoned for around a thousand years, so I doubt Cory knows much about Archie's experiments on how to make Grey Wardens into Super Ghouls or darkspawn into Disciples.

 

Cory was able to assemble more power and influence due to using humans. While Cory was able to give out his own kind of Calling (DA2: Legacy), it was more effective to just use the Venatori for his espionage, Grey Wardens for his personal guard and demon summoning, and Red Templars as his main military arm.

[thats1evildude]

But who needs a human army when you have a Darkspawn army lol.

 

Said human followers would have given Corypheus an army of demons and plunged all of Orlais into chaos if the Inquisitor hadn't stopped them.

 

Consider this: the darkspawn haven't conquered Thedas in over a thousand years. In the bad future seen during In Hushed Whispers, Corypheus did it in one year.

[Daerog]

Cory's army was greater than the Architect's.

 

Cory threatened all of Thedas, the Architect threatened a province in Fereldan.

[In Exile]

Darkspawn also corrupt everything they touch. Corypheus doesn't want to be self proclaimed god over a blighted world. Well, I'm assuming at least.

 

The red lyrium bit makes that somewhat less likely. It sounds like he doesn't use them because he's in denial about what he is - or so sayeth those who picked the templars, which I only did once and cant' recall the temple of Dumat very well. 

[leaguer of one]

So, you think Trespasser was a retread of Act 2 of Dragon Age 2?

Nope. Act 2 was just a bunch of idiots poking a bee hive with a stick

Trespasser was an over reaction by a bunch of horny zealots.

[leaguer of one]

In that case, did you think Corypheus was just a rethread of the Architect?

The god complex he has points to no.

[Jandi]

Nope. Act 2 was just a bunch of idiots poking a bee hive with a stick

Trespasser was an over reaction by a bunch of horny zealots.

 

Not really an overraction. Even Bull says he isn't surprised about their actions. It might have been an overreaction to most, but typical Qunari nonsense.

[Aulis Vaara]

Ok, people don't seem to be getting what I'm trying to say, so I'll spell in out:

Just because you have the same type of enemy, doesn't mean you have the same type of plot. So another Blight in a future game will probably not be a retread of Origins. Can we please drop that stupid opinion forever now?

[Neoleviathan]

Said human followers would have given Corypheus an army of demons and plunged all of Orlais into chaos if the Inquisitor hadn't stopped them.
 
Consider this: the darkspawn haven't conquered Thedas in over a thousand years. In the bad future seen during In Hushed Whispers, Corypheus did it in one year.

Maybe Orlais joined him out of desperation rather than be quickly conquered though.... That future & his dreams for Tevinter seemed so incompatable, could just be the absence of the mark ruined his plans as much as Solas. But thanks to the dlc we see a Titan stir & Qunari aggression. Maybe the bad future we just see all those demons at the ready because Cory & the rest of Thedas are just fighting enemies from all sides, even from beneath. Orlais & maybe even the other nations quckly submit to Cory in the face of these titanic forces. Future Cory was using his armies to fight the Titan & the Qun to save the world.

[TraiHarder]

Said human followers would have given Corypheus an army of demons and plunged all of Orlais into chaos if the Inquisitor hadn't stopped them.

 

Consider this: the darkspawn haven't conquered Thedas in over a thousand years. In the bad future seen during In Hushed Whispers, Corypheus did it in one year.

 

I'm pretty sure said human did not a damn thing in opening up the rifts to allow demons in because I highly doubt they could control the more powerful demons that came from the fade. Not to mention the demons started killing them an they were also having to defend themselves from the demons. While Darkspawn would most likely hold no interest to demons so they would most likely not fight unlike these said humans of yours.