Just asking if anyone has done a playthru without recruiting Vivienne and what effect it has on trespasser end credits, Sadly I recruited her in the main game and thru stupid in game choices accidentally made her Divine ( Not my intention at all!). Have started a new game and have no plans to recruit her, but Id rather not have to wait 100+ hrs to find out the answer ... Please alittle help of where I should look for info.
What happens if you don't recruit Vivienne (main game) in Trespasser?
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kimgoold
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:20
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I would guess nothing happens at all. No mention of her no end credits slide as she you know never was a part of the Inquisition.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:21
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Wouldn't she just not be there? That's what happened with Cole for me... Tho he kept appearing and disappearing... it's like he was watching me! Kinda creepy....
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:23
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Wouldn't she just not be there? That's what happened with Cole for me... Tho he kept appearing and disappearing... it's like he was watching me! Kinda creepy....
He was actually a party member your whole game. He just made you forget about it.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:23
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Wouldn't she just not be there? That's what happened with Cole for me... Tho he kept appearing and disappearing... it's like he was watching me! Kinda creepy....
Yep. She's just not around and there's no mention made.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:24
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Thats Great News, I was worried she would sabotage my freed mages playthru, but if she's not mentioned in end credits perhaps she has no chance to destroy College of Enchanters.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:31
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Thats Great News, I was worried she would sabotage my freed mages playthru, but if she's not mentioned in end credits perhaps she has no chance to destroy College of Enchanters.
She will be mentioned in the credits, she will rebuild the Circles.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:46
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They went through great pains to ensure that the College and Circle both exist even in situations where one makes no sense existing, so even if it isn't mentioned, the circle will be reborn because Bioware wants it there as a common starting point across world states.Thats Great News, I was worried she would sabotage my freed mages playthru, but if she's not mentioned in end credits perhaps she has no chance to destroy College of Enchanters.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 04:55
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For those who said she doesnt appear in the epilogue if she was not recruited, you are wrong.
I didn't have Vivienne in my game at all, but there's a slide with a Vivienne-like figure that says that a Circle of Magi arose (on itself, I presume, it wasn't said that Divine Victoria aided them in any way) and began rivaling the College. They're in uneasy coexistence or something like that.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 05:16
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Thats Great News, I was worried she would sabotage my freed mages playthru, but if she's not mentioned in end credits perhaps she has no chance to destroy College of Enchanters.
Why would she try to destroy the College lol?
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 05:31
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Why would she try to destroy the College lol?
Well, she does that in the original epilogue
In the end, they refuse Vivienne's invitation to rejoin the Circle of Magi and instead reform the College of Enchanters as a new order.
The reaction from the new Divine is instantaneous: a war to dissolve the College before it begins.
Some mages surrender; others return to the Inquisition. Either way, the new Circle of Magi stands triumphant.
As I understand it that gets retconned by Trespasser. I always wondered with what army she was fighting them with anyway.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 05:34
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Well, she does that in the original epilogueIn the end, they refuse Vivienne's invitation to rejoin the Circle of Magi and instead reform the College of Enchanters as a new order.The reaction from the new Divine is instantaneous: a war to dissolve the College before it begins.Some mages surrender; others return to the Inquisition. Either way, the new Circle of Magi stands triumphant.As I understand it that gets retconned by Trespasser. I always wondered with what army she was fighting them with anyway.
The people of Thedas who answered her call.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 05:53
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He was actually a party member your whole game. He just made you forget about it.
That's creepy.... no wonder enemies just died before I hit them.....
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 05:59
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I did a playthrough using only Cassandra, Varric and Solas. Did not recruit any of the other companions. Obviously Solas leaves at the end leaving me with just Cassandra and Varric. I haven't played the trespasser dlc so I would be curious how it would play out. I guess time will tell when I get the dlc
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 06:11
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I did a playthrough using only Cassandra, Varric and Solas. Did not recruit any of the other companions. Obviously Solas leaves at the end leaving me with just Cassandra and Varric. I haven't played the trespasser dlc so I would be curious how it would play out. I guess time will tell when I get the dlc
Please let us know. I know Dorian still shows up as the Tevinter Ambassador, his conversations a just a little less friendly but he is still available to join the party. I only had the one playthrough and it was because I wanted to see Cullen and Leliana play chess..
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 06:14
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Please let us know. I know Dorian still shows up as the Tevinter Ambassador, his conversations a just a little less friendly but he is still available to join the party. I only had the one playthrough and it was because I wanted to see Cullen and Leliana play chess..
It might be a while before I play the dlc since that playthrough was deleted long before the dlc was released and I still have to purchase a ps4.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 06:24
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Since she can't die (sadly) and her companion quest has literally nothing important in it. I'd say everything with her stays the same.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 06:59
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Please let us know. I know Dorian still shows up as the Tevinter Ambassador, his conversations a just a little less friendly but he is still available to join the party. I only had the one playthrough and it was because I wanted to see Cullen and Leliana play chess..
Interesting; if you kick out Dorain then Cullen plays with Leliana? I never knew that. I love that after 9 months of playing this game and doing it different every time that I still find new things I never knew.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 10:17
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Interesting; if you kick out Dorain then Cullen plays with Leliana? I never knew that. I love that after 9 months of playing this game and doing it different every time that I still find new things I never knew.
Or do templars recruit quest and once you get to skyhold don't talk to Dorian at all until you've had the cullen-Leliana chess scene, so before actually recruiting him you can get it too. Since I always have Dorian that's how I got to see the Leliana chess scene.
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 10:40
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Interesting; if you kick out Dorain then Cullen plays with Leliana? I never knew that. I love that after 9 months of playing this game and doing it different every time that I still find new things I never knew.
Its not surprising to find things that the player didn't know about. I'm sure there are things I don't know about with the number of playthroughs I've already done with DAI.
Here's a thread about things discovered in the Mass Effect games that people are still finding even though ME3 came out 3 1/2 years ago
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Posté 23 septembre 2015 - 11:27
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They went through great pains to ensure that the College and Circle both exist even in situations where one makes no sense existing, so even if it isn't mentioned, the circle will be reborn because Bioware wants it there as a common starting point across world states.
I'm not sure what people find so difficult about this issue: there was a huge political split in the Circles of Magi. Not everyone wanted the kind of freedom the rebels ala Anders and Fionna wanted. This is a political split: the mages themselves fracture between the ones that want a Circle and the ones who do not, with the difference in Divine being on which side of the dispute orthodoxy of the Chantry falls, essentially.
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Posté 24 septembre 2015 - 12:21
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If you don't recruit her, she remains her awesome self who leads the Loyalists and forms the Circle, which she doesn't need anyone's support to do.
I don't know why people would avoid recruiting her, she is probably the most valuable companion who brings the most support to the Inquisition (even if it isn't reflected in gameplay terms).
All hail Divine Victoria!
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Posté 24 septembre 2015 - 12:40
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She began fighting the rebel mages in mine I don't recruit her She is rude and acts supieror I don't deal with that IRL won't deal with that in games. So I was a bit peeved that she still intruded in my ending lol
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Posté 24 septembre 2015 - 01:14
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She began fighting the rebel mages in mine I don't recruit her She is rude and acts supieror I don't deal with that IRL won't deal with that in games. So I was a bit peeved that she still intruded in my ending lol
She is rude only if she doesnt like your Inquisitor.
