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[gabeperron]

So curious about this one , found this a strange move on Bioware's part. In origins i remember her as being a prime candidate for romance, so say hypothetically if a player never did romance her and chose Leliana to be his option and therefore being true to her he never had a baby with her and had Loghain kill himself to put away the archdemon.

 

Well that leaves her single and childless does it not? So as far as i can tell from the inquisition site

 

http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)

 

she cant be romanced? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <>

[Beomer]

By the same logic Leliana should be 're-romanceable'.

I'm guessing they just wanted to keep things fresh and then there's also the more important fact that writing an entire romance sub plot for maybe just a bunch of people who didn't romance one of the two is about as justifiable in terms of the effort it would take as bringing back the HoF might be.

 

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Not to mention the fact that both Lel and Morri might at this point be reaching their matriarch stage? I mean while I have no desire to reignite the intense debates about how old they were during Origin (IIRC consensus was that Leliana was in her late twenties to early thirties and Morrigan was around 20), add 10 years to that they can both be in their thirties and forties, which would make romancing Leliana at least rather awkward for a youthful Inky.

[Lynroy: Final Edition]

I got over it.

[Fredward]

Morrigan doesn't seem to like the Inquisitor all that much tbh. But maybe that's just cuz I kept choosing the options that made it sound like I knew her.

[nightscrawl]

Wow I certainly didn't expect to see a topic like this so long after the game's release.

 

At any rate, Morrigan plays only a minor role in the game and comes in rather late. Also, her introductory mission is non-linear, meaning that the player can choose to play it sooner or later in relation to another mission. Even if they considered making her a romance option, there just isn't the time to develop any sort of relationship. And too, the devs don't just go about writing these romances lightly: they consider whether it would be appropriate for the character and the story as a whole; they just don't throw it in there willy-nilly.

 

And if DA2 was anything to go by, they typically did not have characters who were previous romance options as new romance options in the following game. It seems to me that they would rather just avoid the headache altogether. So, I also don't imagine that if we go to Tevinter in DA4 and a non-romanced Dorian is there that we will have the opportunity to romance him, particularly given his romance content as presented in DAI.

 

 

Morrigan doesn't seem to like the Inquisitor all that much tbh. But maybe that's just cuz I kept choosing the options that made it sound like I knew her.

 

She sounded like she respected me, so... I dunno. Then again, I tend to not choose inappropriate dialogue responses in general.

[Dieb]

Or exactly the right age. Not everyone roleplays their Inquisitor to be the obligatory mid-twen with a pocket full of dreams - I say with a dumb grin & free of judgement.

 

Accordingly, it's a shame that Morrigan isn't romanceable, since while herself a great companion, Cassandra's romance got a little too awkward for my liking - though I do understand that's part of her charm for those that went for her.

 

As someone who's been through most facettes of a relationship (and back again), a confident single mother with the determination and strength to protect her own as well as her statement regarding her views on human behaviour when encountering the unknown; it's immensely attractive. And then, there's dat exterior.

[BraveVesperia]

She's a romance in DAO. 

 

I don't think we spend enough time with her in DAI for her to qualify as a romance option, even if she wasn't one in DAO. Even if you do WEWH first, then Adamant, then the temple, she doesn't have any real involvement or much to say until the temple. The most that would've made sense is a Harding-style collection of flirts. They'd have to seriously expand her character. Part of that would have to include her opening up to you, since Morrigan (and the Inquisitor tbh) don't treat their relationship as much more than a business arrangement.

[Dieb]

She's a romance in DAO. 

 

I don't think we spend enough time with her in DAI for her to qualify as a romance option, even if she wasn't one in DAO. Even if you do WEWH first, then Adamant, then the temple, she doesn't have any real involvement or much to say until the temple. The most that would've made sense is a Harding-style collection of flirts. They'd have to seriously expand her character. Part of that would have to include her opening up to you, since Morrigan (and the Inquisitor tbh) don't treat their relationship as much more than a business arrangement.

 

The curious thing is, however, despite her near-cult-following since DAO; because of the fact that she had not fully developed her persona back then, I only really got to appreciate her in DAI as a grown woman.

 

Despite the things I would have liked to happen, I agree wholeheartedly with the above. With the exchanges we have now, just adding one flirty response to each and a romance cutscene at the end of the last one; it would feel incredibly weird and disproportionately flingy.

[tanuki]

By the same logic Leliana should be 're-romanceable'.

I'm guessing they just wanted to keep things fresh and then there's also the more important fact that writing an entire romance sub plot for maybe just a bunch of people who didn't romance one of the two is about as justifiable in terms of the effort it would take as bringing back the HoF might be.

 

Edit:

Not to mention the fact that both Lel and Morri might at this point be reaching their matriarch stage? I mean while I have no desire to reignite the intense debates about how old they were during Origin (IIRC consensus was that Leliana was in her late twenties to early thirties and Morrigan was around 20), add 10 years to that they can both be in their thirties and forties, which would make romancing Leliana at least rather awkward for a youthful Inky.

Your assumption that it's because of age is invalid. Most of romance options in DAI are in their middle or late 30-s, with the possible exception of Sera (early 20-s?) and Josephine (Late 20-s?). Or even waaay older in case of Solas. Dorian I think is late 20-s or early 30-s.

 

So it's just like you said in the first part of your post - why repeat romances when they can make new ones? If someone wants to romance Leliana or Morrigan, there's always DAO for it.

[Jandi]

I'm pretty sure Blackwall is older than both of them but I guess it's ok if the man is older?

 

Something I never understood, at all.

 

Mind you, I'm not saying I wish Morrigan or Leliana would be romance options, just that I don't really get why it would matter. Cullen isn't exactly 25 either.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Morrigan romance? I'd love that but on the other hand how can a drone that drank from the well be capable to romance someone at her free will?

[Jandi]

Morrigan romance? I'd love that but on the other hand how can a drone that drank from the well be capable to romance someone at her free will?

 

Ehh... Inquisitor can drink too? O.o

[Serza]

This reminds me of that picture of Sera with a mug saying "Male tears."

 

Well, it wasn't a picture of her, just a rather good cosplay.

[Hydwn]

I'm guessing the single biggest factor is that she's a romance in DAO.  

 

The one thing players always forget when talking about romances but the devs can't forget is that romances require a lot of code, and so a lot of disk space and time.  The reason there have been no dwarf romances and only one qunari, for instance, is that requires a lot of extra coding to take the height differences into account in romance cutscenes.  Mid-size characters are easiest to program in that way.  I believe this is why Cullen only romances elves and humans - he probably already had a smaller moveset because you can't take him into the field, so coding in all kinds of poses for an Inquisitor too short or too small when his romance was added last was probably too much.

 

Similarly with love triangles.  It takes a good deal of code to deal with that, and the consequences of having an Inquisitor compete with the Warden for Morrigan or Leliana.  I suspect all characters will only be romanceable in one game only.

[Big I]

I suspect all characters will only be romanceable in one game only.

 

I remember one of the devs saying exactly that. I think it was David Gaider or Mike Laidlaw.

[vertigomez]

Because having Morrigan be re-romanceable begs the question... why her? Why not Alistair? Why not bring back Isabela? What's so special about Morrigan that the player gets the option to romance her twice, experiencing her romance arc in two completely different ways?

(Redundant question is redundant. Morrigan's great, but it'd still suck.)

[Chiramu]

The Inquisitor romancing Morrigan would be the most random thing put into the game... There is like, zero sexual attraction between the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

[ArianaGBSA]

The Inquisitor romancing Morrigan would be the most random thing put into the game... There is like, zero sexual attraction between the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

You know that if there was a romance thing would be handled differently right? There is nothing that fits or does not fit the game, the world or the story, it is just what the writters want to do or not. If they want it will be done and will fit, if they don't, then we wont' have it. It looks like it wouldn't fit because they wanted it to be that way, period.

[Beomer]

The Inquisitor romancing Morrigan would be the most random thing put into the game... There is like, zero sexual attraction between the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

 

After she comes to Skyhold their relation seems pretty professional or at the most like close colleagues. But you got to admit when you meet her at Winter Palace and later when she informs you that she's coming to Skyhold, she seems to pick her words a little oddly. When the Inky says it's nice to see her, she replies, well you'll soon be seeing a whole lot more of me......Might be just me but she comes off a little flirty.

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Or maybe it's just a reference to her changing back into that 'two-straps-that-I-call-a-top' attire.

 

Your assumption that it's because of age is invalid. Most of romance options in DAI are in their middle or late 30-s, with the possible exception of Sera (early 20-s?) and Josephine (Late 20-s?). Or even waaay older in case of Solas. Dorian I think is late 20-s or early 30-s.

 

So it's just like you said in the first part of your post - why repeat romances when they can make new ones? If someone wants to romance Leliana or Morrigan, there's always DAO for it.

 

 Touche

[thats1evildude]

This reminds me of that picture of Sera with a mug saying "Male tears."

 

[Jandi]

The Inquisitor romancing Morrigan would be the most random thing put into the game... There is like, zero sexual attraction between the Inquisitor and Morrigan.

 

Well, to be fair, that didn't really stop Morrigan in Origins, and I'm not talking about the Dark Ritual thingy.

 

Just sayin

[Erstus]

Never cared for Morrigan and not to mention it would make literally zero sense.

I liked Cassandra but I did not romance her because I wanted to keep that relationship professional. I liked her more ruthless persona.

And Josie just looks like a donkey...

[Serza]

 

Mmmmhmmmm...

 

But I think there was also a cosplay that was on the same note. Sadly, I don't really feel like digging through nearly 4k pages of the Sera thread... We were... kind of OT at times.

[Asch Lavigne]

BW said no returning characters would be romanceable on account of "OMG!!! Morrigan cheated on my Warden! DEATH TO BIOWARE/EA!!!!!!!"

 

I do think non romanced returning characters should be romanceable, but the writers disagree.

[gabeperron]

Mmmmhmmmm...

 

 

But I think there was also a cosplay that was on the same note. Sadly, I don't really feel like digging through nearly 4k pages of the Sera thread... We were... kind of OT at times.

dude i wanted to romance sera even though she was quite annoying. But i looked it up and she was gay ! SLIGHTLY disappointed