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[Miltialdes]

If the story is battle for the world of Teldas  : Solas vs the World less the elf.

 

I don't know if you are aware but even he is not a god ( like the Christian, Muslim, Jude religion), he is omnipotent and near omniscient. The power he has showed at the end of the trepasser is  out of scope of a character we can play and I am sure what he showed is only the beginning, ...

 

Protagonist should be an army and when we see what he does with a legion of Qunari, I am not sure it is enough.

Everybody alive from daO to DAI with a new protagonist.

 

But technecally, it will be a new protgonist and some appearance of old characher.

[Eivuwan]

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And don't worry. That is a small poll in one place (which is known to have people who are forever dissatisfied). I've seen loads of people who want the Inquisitor back on various websites, but i've also met some some people who feel it would be "weird" and "unnecessary" for a new PC in Solas' plot. They'd need to cast a wider net and ask qualitative questions if they want some real feedback on the Inquisitor.

 

Any other major websites where I can post the poll for a more representative sample? I have done BSN and Reddit so far.

[Smudjygirl]

Any other major websites where I can post the poll for a more representative sample? I have done BSN and Reddit so far.

 

Hmm...i don't know. Personally i'd put it on any forum that has anyone talking about DAI. Even Ushi no tane is talking about it (last time i was on there, anyway. Not my favourite forum). And gameFAQ, Tumblr...even wordpress has people talking about it and expressing various desires.

 

Even still, you're poll has allowed for more than one vote, meaning we won't have an accurate consensus of which people would prefer.

[Eivuwan]

Hmm...i don't know. Personally i'd put it on any forum that has anyone talking about DAI. Even Ushi no tane is talking about it (last time i was one there, anyway). And gameFAQ, Tumblr...even wordpress has people talking about it and expressing various desires.

 

Even still, you're poll has allowed for more than one vote, meaning we won't have an accurate consensus of which people would prefer.

 

And there is the "qualitative" research, i was talking about too. People have so many different reasons for their choices that proper market research is needed to do it. Or i could do it...i'm in dire need of a hobby right now.

 

Didn't want to do qualitative research because that's just way too much work lol. I am not familiar with those sites so I'm just going to leave this matter alone. 43-45% of the fan-base who wants Inquisitor or dual protagonist is still a large percentage I guess.

[Smudjygirl]

Didn't want to do qualitative research because that's just way too much work lol. I am not familiar with those sites so I'm just going to leave this matter alone. 43-45% of the fan-base who wants Inquisitor or dual protagonist is still a large percentage I guess.

 

In the poll i did, the "no think you" was only 20 votes ahead of "YES PLEASE!"

 

>>http://strawpoll.me/5496159/r My poll

[Eivuwan]

In the poll i did, the "no think you" was only 20 votes ahead of "YES PLEASE!"

 

>>http://strawpoll.me/5496159/r My poll

 

 

Was this also on BSN? How come the vote counts are much smaller than my poll? It's a promising result though.

[Smudjygirl]

Was this also on BSN? How come the vote counts are much smaller than my poll? It's a promising result though.

 

Yeah, it was. I have no idea why, i guess it wasn't interesting enough. Or maybe  it's because i didn't have a "dual protag" option, which seems to be a favourite, however unlikely it is. That seemed to be the case in the comments, anyway. People want (or are expecting) a new PC but don't want Solas to be dealt with by anyone other than the Inquisitor. Quite the conundrum

[Jackums]

Dual protagonists would be immersion-breaking for me, and I don't want to continue playing an existing PC. 

 

I'm not against cameos, a la Hawke in Inquisition, but given the choice I'd rather we just hear about what they've been up to.

 

+1 to new protagonist.

[d1ta]

Clicked on dual protag.. only because I'd still want to be incharge of the Inquizy's dialogue wheel whenever she makes a (minor) appearence in DA4 and hopefully BW will do NOTHING to break her happily ever after in DAI XD.

If I cant have those options, then I'd rather have a new protag instead.

[WardenWade]

Thanks for the link! To quote Laidlaw from that 9/7 article directly:

 

See, I love that approach. My characters then only fit into Thedas' history as someone in a particular place and a particular time (a particular "chapter" of the DA ongoing novel). It's a bit humbling too, unlike if you're the one person who can ever save the universe whatsoever, like Shepard, where it's always ingratiatingly you, you, you. If you think about it, we've already been playing a "dual character" scenario in the DA setting, starting with one character, then switching to another, then another. Keep that format coming!

 

Notable is this Q&A later on:

 

Blackwall in DA4! haha

You are very welcome, I'm glad it was helpful

[Shechinah]

 Or maybe  it's because i didn't have a "dual protag" option, which seems to be a favourite, however unlikely it is. That seemed to be the case in the comments, anyway. People want (or are expecting) a new PC but don't want Solas to be dealt with by anyone other than the Inquisitor. Quite the conundrum

 

I think that might have been the reason since I recall getting quite a few likes on my post where I suggested the option be added to your poll so there were an interest in the option.

 

There are additionally some people who are more inclined to vote in a poll where they can be anonymous rather than on a board with a comment where they may feel they have to present a defense of their choice.   
 

[Smudjygirl]

I think that might have been the reason since I recall getting quite a few likes on my post where I suggested the option be added to your poll so there were an interest in the option.

 

There are additionally some people who are more inclined to vote in a poll where they can be anonymous rather than on a board with a comment where they may feel they have to present a defense of their choice.   
 

 

Yes, i remember, I figured that was it. Still, it gave some interesting feedback for how people want to deal with that particular story if dual protags are not an option.

[President of Boom]

Dual option would be great. Maybe something similar to what's being done with DIshonored 2 where the story can be experienced from two different perspectives depending on which character one chooses to play. Just think of the replay value. Uff.

[san/]

lol, fans divided into 4 equal groups.

Dual protagonist for me. I just don't believe some newguy will be able to save Solas or change his mind or affect him in any way.

[DuskWanderer]

I would like the Inquisitor to be a new character (For sake of argument, I'm using male)

 

Judging by the formula the game has given us for protagonists, he should be Orlesian (DA: O took place in Ferelden. DA2 took place in the Free Marches but the hero was Ferelden. DA: I took place in (mostly) Orlais and the hero was from the Free Marches). Thus, the hero must be Orlesian.

 

I want the hero to be a normal person type who grows into power. Take inspiration from great heroes and warriors of history like Thutmose III, Alexander the Great, or Aurelian, and show me a commander of armies that's worth following. Pair him with a Tevinter magister as your secondary character (your Alistair or Cassandra type) who serves more as a Julius Caesar type. Any sort of magical gift like the Anchor must come during the story. 

[Xcorpyo]

1. Dual characters would be interesting, especially if let’s one is a Qunari that wants to conquer Tevinter and fight Solas, and the other is an Tevinter ally(maybe even the Inq) and wants to save the wold from Qunification and Solas.

At one point, preferably towards the end, these two actually meet, and you get the option to continue the fight with only one of them, in which case the other dies and everything you accomplished as that char goes to waste.

 

2. Or one char with a twist. But this would be more difficult to implement, because it will not allow you to import your Inq, it will be only a world build with choices, mage-templar, have the GW joined the Inq or they were kicked out, etc. This world build will conveniently forget the race of the Inq.

You get to play half the game as a Qunari(the race doesn’t matter), fight the Imperium and their allies, Inquisition forces included. At one point you face off the Inq’s romantic interest, you fight and kill him/her. With his’her last words, she tells you she still loves you Inq.

The shock of it makes you break free of the mind control and you realize you are actually the Inq, were captured by the Qunari and they played with your mind using the awesome powers of Qamek.

You are then faced with a choice: get back to your former allies and try to rectify some of the things you did while brainwashed, or realise the Qun is the true way and continue with your mission. Imagine having to fight/kill every one of your former friends.

I know the implementation of such a concept can be tough if not impossible, and the KOTOR already used this with the Revan revelation, but honestly, every good idea has already been used before in other franchises, so there isn’t much room for novelty.

Even a cliché setting can be interesting if properly implemented.

[Amne YA]

sonce we are going to tivinter , i wanna be a magister ;D  .   me and dorian gonna  get people killed 

[ShadowLordXII]

Dual Characters or just a new character with no cameo.

 

Why no cameo? Because as potentially cool as it would be, Inquisition soured the idea with how Hawke was implemented regardless of imported choices and personality. Specifically with how Hawke is railroaded to always be anti-warden; anti-blood magic and kind of useless in the story and in gameplay.

 

As for the new character, it would be cool if they brought back playable origins with some new backgrounds:

 

Tevinter Mage (as a human, elf or vashoth)- Apprentice to a magister

 

Kal-Sharok Dwarf - A Noble or Warrior

 

Surface Dwarf - As member of the merchant's guild; mercenary; or a smuggler

 

Rivani Elf/Human/Vashoth

 

Anders Human/Elf/Vashoth

 

Qunari (either as a qunari; elf or human)

[electrifried]

I don't get why so many people think dual protagonists are a good idea. As an rpg I would find this to be totally immersion breaking (unless they can find a way to cleverly make you care about both sides of the story). As it is I don't think DA would work with two protagonists. Either stick with the Inquisitor or get a new one altogether.

[Morroian]

More importantly I want to run with the strong connection between the Inquisitor and Solas  and the strong personal motivation to stop him that is already established. The Inquisitor being demoted to some generic quest giving/advisory/whatever NPC turns my stomach even more than her dying or disappearing never to be heard from again. They would never get an NPC inquisitor's personality right anyway so they'd have to make some generic default like they did with Revan in SWtOR.

 

Trespasser was extremely promising and set the tracks for what could potentially be an awesome game that for the first time since Jade empire has a strong personal reason for the PC to go after the antagonist rather than "this hoard/dragon/crazy person/ancient evil machines/etc...are bad so we must kill them to save the city/world/galaxy." If the inquisitor isn't the protagonist, it goes right back to "this Solas guy is trying to destroy the world, we: a random group of new heroes must stop him to save the world." BioWare's last few games haven't been good enough to satisfy my misgivings about this so if Solas' plot is in DA4 but the inquisitor isn't the protagonist then I won't buy or play it.

 

OK so this is the best reason I've seen for having the Inquisitor continue, but the inquisitor is still the weakest protag in the series IMHO so it would need to be a choice.

[Reika]

I voted for the Inquisitor to return. I know I'm in the minority, but the constantly making new protagonists gets tiresome after awhile and I don't feel the connection to them the way I did with my various Shepards in the ME trilogy. With the way Trespasser ended I'm hoping that it means the Inquisitor would be back to hunt Solas.

 

They don't need the Anchor anymore, as was noted when talking with Josie in the beginning of Trespasser, the last of the rifts was closed up shortly before the Inquisitor was called in to be raked over the coals.

 

As for the loss of the hand, yes, it would be a disability, but there's plenty of people in real life with similar injuries who can overcome them. Besides, they don't have magic, considering how often Dagna seemed to be poking and prodding my various Inquisitors' hand, I'm sure she can come up with some sort of slick replacement. Even better chances at it if she and Bianca work together to make it.

[Nefla]

I think a new protagonist for every game fits better when:

 

1) The stories are of a much smaller scale such as a game about a peasant riot where the PC is a freedom fighter in their country. This kind of thing wouldn't affect the world as a whole and would be self contained

 

OR

 

2) Each game is set very far apart in time or in different worlds like Final Fantasy.

 

It does not fit for DA4 *grumps*

[Eivuwan]

I think a new protagonist for every game fits better when:

 

1) The stories are of a much smaller scale such as a game about a peasant riot where the PC is a freedom fighter in their country. This kind of thing wouldn't affect the world as a whole and would be self contained

 

OR

 

2) Each game is set very far apart in time or in different worlds like Final Fantasy.

 

It does not fit for DA4 *grumps*

 

This is such a good point considering the next game will immediately follow the events of this game because Solas is going to implement his plan in a couple of years. No time to dilly dally

[Reika]

The other thing is that the HoF's and Hawke's stories felt complete at the end of their respective games. I may not have been entirely happy with one (DA2), but it felt like they were done, so I was okay to go on to a new protagonist.

 

I actually felt that way at the end of DAI before Trespasser. After Trespasser, things changed a whole freaking lot.

[Heimdall]

This is such a good point considering the next game will immediately follow the events of this game because Solas is going to implement his plan in a couple of years. No time to dilly dally

We don't know the exact plot of DA4, we don't know that redeeming or killing Solas will be the main focus of the plot, though I'm sure that'll be a part.  I'd like the Inquisitor to be aboard for that part, but I also want to explore Tevinter as a new character.  Hence why I favor a dual protagonist approach, with the Inquisitor being controllable at set points in the plot in which they make high level decisions in the fight against Solas.  That's the kind of dynamic I think Trespasser was setting up for.