This thread is bound and determined to suck out all love I have for this franchise.
What are you so upset about? Your side is winning in the polls. Although I personally think that they should keep the inquisitor as the main protagonist in the next game.
What are you so upset about? Your side is winning in the polls. Although I personally think that they should keep the inquisitor as the main protagonist in the next game.
I said the thread, not the poll.
They should have included options in the keep to specify the PC's weapon style and specializations.
Just imagine that they mastered all potential specializations during their years on the run (and then weirdly decided to not use the full extent of their skills while fighting with the Inquisitor 
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I said the thread, not the poll.
Just because other people have different opinions from you?
To all people who want a new protagonist. How would you feel if the inquisitor is the main protagonist, but has to go undercover in the next game? Then he/she can be a tevinter ex-slave or whatever you want. It's like role-playing a role-player.
I would like a new protagonist, but also getting closure of the solas/inquisitor plot, even if it is later on a dlc. It doesn´t need to be a cameo, i´m fine if the story is resolved off-screen so long as it is well executed. Not like the DAO Warden...
To all people who want a new protagonist. How would you feel if the inquisitor is the main protagonist, but has to go undercover in the next game? Then he/she can be a tevinator ex-slave or whatever you want. It's like role-playing a role-player.
I have no problem with people having a different opinion than mine.
My problem is a fear that BioWare will take this series in a direction that I am physically incapable of enjoying, and several of the arguments in this thread are pushing very strongly for that.
To all people who want a new protagonist. How would you feel if the inquisitor is the main protagonist, but has to go undercover in the next game? Then he/she can be a tevinter ex-slave or whatever you want. It's like role-playing a role-player.
Some how, that's worse.
I have no problem with people having a different opinion than mine.
My problem is a fear that BioWare will take this series in a direction that I am physically incapable of enjoying, and several of the arguments in this thread are pushing very strongly for that.
I just hope that Bioware will do a dual protagonist, but extend the core story so that both characters can be developed. I kind of want to play a new protagonist, but I want even more to finish the Inquisitor and Solas story.
To all people who want a new protagonist. How would you feel if the inquisitor is the main protagonist, but has to go undercover in the next game? Then he/she can be a tevinter ex-slave or whatever you want. It's like role-playing a role-player.
No, that would be appalling. It'd be like eating a wax apple.
Another user, Kadan, suggested an Awakening style option. You can choose to play either Inquisitor or a new protagonist. Some dialogue, relationships, and of course, background will be different. However, the main plot will stay the same. How about that?
Another user, Kadan, suggested an Awakening style option. You can choose to play either Inquisitor or a new protagonist. Some dialogue, relationships, and of course, background will be different. However, the main plot will stay the same. How about that?
Not at all, because Awakening's Orlesian Warden gave you no background whatsoever (not coincidentally, a problem Inquisition had too). I want a prologue with the people in my life before starting to adventure, like DAO and DA2 had.
Not at all, because Awakening's Orlesian Warden gave you no background whatsoever (not coincidentally, a problem Inquisition had too). I want a prologue with the people in my life before starting to adventure, like DAO and DA2 had.
Well, they might not do that even with a new protagonist... So assuming you won't get to play an origins story, would that be ok?
Well, they might not do that even with a new protagonist... So assuming you won't get to play an origins story, would that be ok?
It would suck, but at least it'd give Bioware a chance to handle things better with a new protagonist.
In any case, the tone of the Trespasser epilogues, especially ones like the one where the Inquisitor joins the Friends of Red Jenny or finds a second home in Antiva with Josephine, makes it sort of seem like they're settling to an extent.
Not at all, because Awakening's Orlesian Warden gave you no background whatsoever (not coincidentally, a problem Inquisition had too). I want a prologue with the people in my life before starting to adventure, like DAO and DA2 had.
To be fair I think we could expect to see more background if they went that route in a full game as opposed to an expansion pack.
That being said, I'm still opposed to this option because I feel it would be a drain on resources. Which is one reason why I'm against the dual protagonist route in general; you'd have to bring back all four voice actors for the Inquisitor and hire at least two and probably four voice actors for the new protagonist. They already said having two VA's(male and female) for each of the four races was wasn't feasible in DAI due to disk space. Even if it would be more feasible in DA4 due to them not being constrained by the old gen consoles, every line one protagonist had would eat into the total word count so they'd both have less overall.
It would suck, but at least it'd give Bioware a chance to handle things better with a new protagonist.
In any case, the tone of the Trespasser epilogues, especially ones like the one where the Inquisitor joins the Friends of Red Jenny or finds a second home in Antiva with Josephine, makes it sort of seem like they're settling to an extent.
It was weird because they had epilogue options like that, but then BLAM Inquisitor sticks a knife in the map so I don't know...
To be fair I think we could expect to see more background if they went that route in a full game as opposed to an expansion pack.
That being said, I'm still opposed to this option because I feel it would be a drain on resources. Which is one reason why I'm against the dual protagonist route in general; you'd have to bring back all four voice actors for the Inquisitor and hire at least two and probably four voice actors for the new protagonist. They already said having two VA's(male and female) for each of the four races was wasn't feasible in DAI due to disk space. Even if it would be more feasible in DA4 due to them not being constrained by the old gen consoles, every line one protagonist had would eat into the total word count so they'd both have less overall.
Considering how the fan base is split in this poll, it seems that Bioware have written their story in a way that will result in about half of the fanbase being upset whatever decision they make. Yikes.
Considering how the fan base is split in this poll, it seems that Bioware have written their story in a way that will result in about half of the fanbase being upset whatever decision they make. Yikes.
That tends to be the case.
Why are we even assuming that we'll be going up against Solas in the next game? We might not do it in a major fashion at all.
Why are we even assuming that we'll be going up against Solas in the next game? We might not do it in a major fashion at all.
Then they shouldn't have spend all that time building up his character in both the main game and the dlc.
Why are we even assuming that we'll be going up against Solas in the next game? We might not do it in a major fashion at all.
I doubt that
Then they shouldn't have spend all that time building up his character in both the main game and the dlc.
It's possible to build something up for later
Why are we even assuming that we'll be going up against Solas in the next game? We might not do it in a major fashion at all.
Why are we even assuming that we'll be going up against Solas in the next game? We might not do it in a major fashion at all.
Well, the only reason we shouldn't assume that is because of pattern recognition.
The logical continuation of DA, be it from the base game or Trespasser, is following up on Solas and him becoming the primary protagonist of the next game. I don't think that's disputable.
But history has shown us that Bioware doesn't necessarily follow that logic as far as Dragon Age goes. The logical extension of Origins would have been following up either on the Architect and the awakened darkspawn or on Morrigan and Flemeth. Instead they went in a very different direction with DA2. The logical extension of DA2 was the mage/templar war, but that didn't get anywhere near the attention people expected it to.
Now, I'd still say that following up on Solas and tying him into the Tevinter/Qunari storyline would be the most logical way to go, but it's entirely possible they'll either push him back to DA5, or make him a smaller part than people expect.
I think there is an argument to have him downgraded since his plan and motivations are literally exactly the same as Corypheus' was. What'll probably end up happening is he'll halfway succeed to where the veil doesn't get torn down but the elven rulers still get free and one or all of them become the real big bads of the series.
None will be realistically affected as personally as Inquisitor (whose Solas was a former companion of), nor any other person we know of now has any knowledge or insight to Solas and his method Inquisitor has. If there is, BW will have to spend inordinate amount of time setting a protagonist like that AGAIN, and I've already pointed out numerous problems with that.
Or maybe they can use this new game to enlighten us to new things about thedas from a new perspective in a new land. Your point of view is so inquisition skewed, it's ridiculous. It hasn't been confirmed what Solas's role in DA4 will be in the first place and you're already making plans about how the inquisition will deal with him?
Please keep your theory to yourself and deal with what we actually know about DA4, which is nothing.
And after everything that was set up - Solas having direct hand in everything, including the formation of Inquisition, setting things in motion by giving Cory the orb and leading them to HIS castle (Skyhold is revealed/confirmed in Trespasser to have belonged to him) and having all the hidden agenda while fighting Corypheus... you really think any other person has a motive to either kill or stop Solas?
Yes because destroying the world concerns the entire world, and not just the inquisition.
Just like Corypheus trying to sunder the veil concerned the entire world and not just hawke.
And an organization/group of heroes was formed to fight that threat.
Oh wow and that could happen in DA4 too, it doesn't have to be the Inquisition
Also - what's the point of an option given to players to redeem him (with high enough approval)?
It might have something to do with how the inquisition acts in the next game, if the organization has a role.
Or it may be like many of the other decisions in the Keep, that don't yet have an impact.
I wouldn't be that presumptuous to tell someone I know what will happen in the next game. Because I would be wrong to do that. That's a wrong thing to do.
Are you really serious in comparing mage/templar war to attempt to change or destroy the world by creator of the Veil itself??
They're both threats that were built up in their respective games. There is a very logical connection to see from a logical perspective.
The way they handled the mage templar war in Inquisition was way different than how the fanbase expected it to go down. Who's to say that the Solas conflict won't be dealt with in a similar manner.
The scale of the threat doesn't matter. That's not the point of the sentence.
Also - true, my theory about the story is just a theory, but it's a theory I try and back up with logical conclusions drawn form the way the story is presented or what was said in interviews.
Interviews with an exterior motive - to sell games. Very rarely will you see game developers not hyping up their own games as the most important game in the series. It would be bad business to do otherwise.
Things can change over the intervening years between games, so I would hesitate to outline the entire plot of DA4 in your head as you've clearly been doing.
Many things from previous games have already been tied - that has been pointed out not just by myself. Also - Inquisitor or Solas is not just "some loose end"; they've both been effectively pushed into the very core of the story.
No they haven't. Many of us haven't gotten closure on own wardens or various things brought up through the games.
"Core of the story" hardly. Again you're thinking about it from Dragon Age Inquisition's perspective. Is Solas's threat to the world any more important than Red Lyrium's pervasive spreading, the blight in general or the remaining darkspawn magisters?
Solas is just one more threat in a long line of threats. Whose to say how immenent his plan will be or what it involves specifically? What's the time frame on it, will it happen immediately or several decades later.
You don't know these things. Patrick Weekes might have promised something, but as I said, things change. Unless you can actually show me what DA4 includes, do not tell me what you think will be involved in it. It's just a theory.
What "tens of others"? What other organization is there that can even vaguely rival what Inquisition has accomplished (Weekes even compared that to 'building an empire' at one point), or the information they've gathered or accessed during DAI or Trespasser?
Antivan Crows, Shadows of the Emporer, Templars, Seekers, Mages of various countries, Freemen of the Dales, Dalish, Alamarri, Avaar, Tal Vashoth mercenary groups, Qunari, Shal Brytol, Scaled Ones, Andrastian Church, Magisters etc etc.
So what other organizations can rival the severely diminished or disbanded inquisition at the end of Trespasser? Literally all of them.
Also whose to say that we can't create a new organization, or that even an organization is even needed to take down Solas, if that's what DA4 involves.
And the story of Inqusiitor is intrinsically tied with it. There's not one without the other now, especially that at the end of the very first proper epilogue DLC in the history of DA franchise, instead of being sent on retirement, they were given a new task that dwarfs that of threat Corypheus has presented.
Or they were disbanded. And the Inquisitor is not "intrinsically tied to it" any more than than the other protagonists are. This is exactly why I don't want the Inquisitor as the protagonist, so we can avoid tying the series to one protagonist which weakens the story.
Again you're presuming to know what Dragon Age 4 will involve. Even though you've said you're just guessing, and then you use language like "There's not one without the other now"
Your entire argument for why the inquisitor should be the protagonist of DA4 is based in your assumptions of what the game involves. It's just baseless. You have no idea what the game will involve.
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