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[Cyrus Amell]

Being noble is ok, and they really run the gamut. I mean sure, you can be as boring as Sebastian Vael or as downright nondescript about the whole thing as your Trevelyan. As a Cousland we had to endure the overnight slaughter of most of our household and become temporary pariahs as we struggled against Howe's machinations. As Hawke, well, all we did was shuffle around Kirkwall for a few years before the whole place was on fire. I'm not sure that the Amell mage counts for much, the connection to any noble house in such a case would be thin and for all we know our branch of the family may have been little more than merchants. 

 

So, what do we want out of a noble? Or indeed, any human origin one would describe as "privileged" for the next Dragon Age game?

 

I loved how in Origins this type of choice allowed us a chance to become a co-ruler on the Fereldan throne. I would definitely like to see more such reactions from the world if Bioware can indeed manage it with the current gen. 

[Ashagar]

Being a Tevinter noble would likely be interesting given the nature of Tevinter Politics just from the descriptions of Dorian and Ferris as well as various codexes.

 

You could have to deal with possibly  having your servants and friends controlled by blood magic and be heavily tempted to resort to blood magic just to insure your not just your own but your families survival in a society with lax views on blood magic. Then there is the ever present threat that if the Qunari win you, your family and your culture will face death or a fate far worse than death at the hands of the Qun leaving nothing capable of stopping the enslavement of thadas at the hands of the qun.

[Cyrus Amell]

Being a Tevinter noble would likely be interesting given the nature of Tevinter Politics just from the descriptions of Dorian and Ferris as well as various codexes.

 

Wouldn't a nobleborn Tevinter who was not a mage become less affluent as a result? I mean sure, there is always military service but it would probably rankle that no one of high rank would want to marry a non-mage who would not strengthen a family's magical bloodline. 

 

I for one think it would add some interesting dimensions to the whole "noble birth" scenario. There but not quite. 

[Ashagar]

There would also be the whole threats from both within and without the noble house to deal with both from family, the qunari, the possibility of your servents being controlled by blood magic used by rival houses, other noble houses, you might get sent on assignments that are meant to kill you either to get rid of you or embarrass your family with your failure to weaken their place in the Magistarium. There is a whole realm of possibilities with a Tevinter noble.

[JadeDragon]

If DA4 takes place in Tevinter and focuses on Qunari Wars I am all for a mage noble origin especially if its taken as a complete reverse of the Cousland Origin were the Cousland Family was more or less good and of course non mages. I would like to be part of a darker noble family but eventually break away or get exiled from it then reclaim it later, but either way good family or bad family it would be a wasted window to not allow Mage Humans to be nobles and non mages be non nobles. But if DA4 focuses on Anderfels and Warden Conflict I dont want a unrealistic humble origin but something non noble but reasonable would work the culture there would support a non noble background. But seeing as I think that is a new conflict that is being teased and the Tevinter-Qunari conflict is overboiling I see Tevinter as the 90% chance of happening with Anderfels at 4% and anywhere else random at a 1%.

[Wolven_Soul]

Wouldn't a nobleborn Tevinter who was not a mage become less affluent as a result? I mean sure, there is always military service but it would probably rankle that no one of high rank would want to marry a non-mage who would not strengthen a family's magical bloodline. 

 

I for one think it would add some interesting dimensions to the whole "noble birth" scenario. There but not quite. 

 

Might be interesting to play a former noble who was cast out because he or she was not a mage.

[Ieldra]

Being a noble in Tevinter is defined by having magic in your bloodline. They don't have any other kind of nobility there, and they don't even call it that. You might end up as a social outcast if you belong to such a bloodline and had the bad luck of not having magic, but it won't make your family lose their status immediately. It's the bloodline that matters, not the individual. 

 

So a "noble" background in Tevinter would be necessarily an Altus family. Or possibly an old and well-established Laetan family, if such exist.

[RenAdaar]

We are apparently going to Tevinter next the only truely interesting people there are the nobility... who are also all mages, many of which are also blood mages.

*crosses finger for a slave back ground and slave rebellion* please please please please please 

[Tidus]

A shem is never up to no good.. I would prefer a Orlesian noble Elf like the ones Leliana spoke of in DA:O.

[Hammerstorm]

I would love to play a criminal/mercenary human background. that you are hired by some powerful to either kill someone or steal something but are betrayed and have no option but go underground.

[Ariella]

Please oh please no slave background for humans, since that'll pretty much be the background for any elf, as we're told the Dalish don't go anywhere near Tevinter. With the exception of the Cousland being able to married the king/queen, and Trevelyan's wartable and non mage Trev getting no negatives at the beginning of the Ball, being a noble doesn't make a huge mark. There are no extra resources, nothing really material to offer. It's just flavor.

Merc or smuggler would make sense considering the situation, but ex human slave... no thanks.

[ravensmight]

I like being a Noble human as you get but you usually don't get to pick from a set of backstories for human it tends to be Noble or Mage. I think they were going to have a chasind origin for dragon age origins but it got canned but if this is Tevinter like everybody thinks then you could be both Mage and a noble or not be a mage and be a noble or a commner or slave or vice versa but more options would be welcome

[frankf43]

You correct about Mama Hawke.

But in my mind being a noble is being raised as a noble, to me blood means nothing (I personally find it rediculous Engalnd still has a Monarchy at all, plus their 'House of Nobles' is ridiculous). But since Mama Hawke was disowned when she ran away technically neither her nor her children are nobles until you file that petition with the Viscount.

 

 

I do agree that we should move away from the south though, 3 games down there already, I want to see some Nevarra, Rivain, or Seheron.

She wasn't disowned her parents left her everything when they died and her brother gambled it away.   

[The Night Haunter]

She wasn't disowned her parents left her everything when they died and her brother gambled it away.   

Actually she was disowned. Later when her father was on his deathbed he decided to leave everything to her (what a douche, his son takes care of him for years and he only cares about his daughter), however prior to the deathbed inheritance change Mama Hawke had been disowned by her parents as soon as she eloped with Daddy Hawke.

[Shechinah]

Actually she was disowned. Later when her father was on his deathbed he decided to leave everything to her (what a douche, his son takes care of him for years and he only cares about his daughter), however prior to the deathbed inheritance change Mama Hawke had been disowned by her parents as soon as she eloped with Daddy Hawke.

 

To be fair, Gamlen seemed to be a tad terrible with money and he may have been so back even back when he was young. His and Leandra's parents may have decided to leave their inheritance to the latter because she was better at handling financial matters and business prospects or at least, handling it better than they believed Gamlen would.

 

The entire Amell situation was tragic: Gamlen understandably felt like nothing to his parents, Leandra never had the chance to say goodbye to them because the children were too young to travel and both of their parents died without being reconciled with their daughter and seeing any of their grandchildren. It even takes Leandra about eighteen years or so before she is able to learn that her parents did not die hating her. 

[The Night Haunter]

To be fair, Gamlen seemed to be a tad terrible with money and he may have been so back even back when he was young. His and Leandra's parents may have decided to leave their inheritance to the latter because she was better at handling financial matters and business prospects or at least, handling it better than they believed Gamlen would.

 

The entire Amell situation was tragic: Gamlen understandably felt like nothing to his parents, Leandra never had the chance to say goodbye to them because the children were too young to travel and both of their parents died without being reconciled with their daughter and seeing any of their grandchildren. It even takes Leandra about eighteen years or so before she is able to learn that her parents did not die hating her. 

It's a greek tragedy alright.

[Aren]

I will tell Queen Cousland that she is boring actually, saw my room mate do it a couple times, and I played a Cousland in Awakening, I didn't find it all that epic.   

 

Every human noble concept I have seen Dragon Age do are story concepts I have seen so many times.  Literally every other Origin story was more interesting to me.  Except maybe Dalish Elf, that was pretty basic.  Though it was fun to play as an absolutely human hating Elf.

I played with a King cousland  instead and he wasn't boring at all,since it was easy to roleplay this character with a huge variety of behaviors for the multiple choices possibility offered by the game,since i'm not stuck to follow one single pattern to take the throne which is what the Queen Cousland can't afford to do,this is way i found her also to be boring (plus AListair as romance? not even the chance i don't like him)

[stop_him]

I will tell Queen Cousland that she is boring actually, saw my room mate do it a couple times, and I played a Cousland in Awakening, I didn't find it all that epic.   

 

Every human noble concept I have seen Dragon Age do are story concepts I have seen so many times.  Literally every other Origin story was more interesting to me.  Except maybe Dalish Elf, that was pretty basic.  Though it was fun to play as an absolutely human hating Elf.

Please do. Couslands, Trevelyans, they're all the same.

[Aren]

Yeah. I know. But I was deeply sasifted by double-crossing Anora and then marrying Alistair, taking her throne form her in a glorious blaze... And plus the Cousland PC has pretty epic parents. I mean, Eleanor was a privateteer! Dats amazing, don't you think?

Mine is the exact opposite, i prefer to marry Anora and give to her the throne,AListair live or die at my wish

HoF king  has a more variety of possibilities in game,since i'm  not bound to the Dark ritual for the throne,it is mine without any survivng old god (Alistair or Loghain can die is not a problem for the character who can take the throne without them around),or as alternative the OGB heir is mine as well both in his human form (who cannot exsist with Alistair/Loghain) and both to the OGB version,which do not require any manipulation towards unwilling participants such as the secret companion or AListair.

not to mention the dual possibility of WH to both follow or not follow Morrigan,with this character i have simply a larger pattern of choices,this is way i found the queen noble to be more boring than the king noble.

Also there is the possibility to have AListair as GW in DAI which is by far a better cameo than hte one of the king,or even a drunk in DAII

who can be used to augment the variability of the playthrough of the same character.

For DAI and DA2 my canon protagonists are females (better voice acting and romances especially for Cullen and Solas)

but for DAO absolutely nope,Gaider kinda screwed up with the genders there.

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[GoldenGail3]

Mine is the exact opposite, i prefer to marry Anora and give to her the throne,AListair live or die at my wish
HoF king  has a more variety of possibilities in game,since i'm  not bound to the Dark ritual for the throne,it is mine without any survivng old god (Alistair or Loghain can die is not a problem for the character who can take the throne without them around),or as alternative the OGB heir is mine as well both in his human form (who cannot exsist with Alistair/Loghain) and both to the OGB version,which do not require any manipulation towards unwilling participants such as the secret companion or AListair.
not to mention the dual possibility of WH to both follow or not follow Morrigan,with this character i have simply a larger pattern of choices,this is way i found the queen noble to be more boring than the king noble.

Also there is the possibility to have AListair as GW in DAI which is by far a better cameo than hte one of the king,or even a drunk in DAII
who can be used to augment the variability of the playthrough of the same character.

For DAI and DA2 my canon protagonists are females (better voice acting and romances especially for Cullen and Solas)
but for DAO absolutely nope,Gaider kinda screwed up with the genders there.
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Your only a Prince Consort, I do hope you realize that. Anora is the one with all the power, which I don't like very much. I would far pefer being a Queen Consort and be in love with King Alistair while he's the one with all the power then a loveless marriage with Anora, and being dumped by a pregnant Morrigan also sucks. And this is coming from someone who played as a Prince Consort with Anora, and I romaced Morrigan.

[straykat]

I have to wonder if the original DAI stories that were human only were diverse... like the merc and smuggler would have been human. That would've been great. It's still kind of cool to be a human rogue, but would have been better if they had a life more becoming of the whole rogue atmosphere (and not just the skillset). As it is, the only types like this are complete outsiders... Dwarves, Elves, and Qunari...who, in my opinion, look bad if you're male. I think the designers sucked on this.

 

I mean, here I am right now looking at my BSN forum screen and it has that rogue standing on the mountain with the raven on his shoulder. It looks more reminiscent of Thief or Assasin's Creed than some Ostwick Noble. Same with the Rogue concept art early in prerelease. He looked gruff and whiskered with menace in his eyes. While the female rogue had this crazed look about her. But this isn't exactly easy to portray in game. Trevelyan's kind of a ponce. Or in my case, just some crazy priest who liked knives.

[Illegitimus]

Wasn't your mom heir to some noble crap in the kirkwall, 

 

Not really.  She was related to a noble but basically took on her husband's bottom of the barrel status when she married him, which is what usually happened in history. In any case it's difficult to define Hawke as a noble when they're living in a slum.  Any human PC (who isn't a mage) is going to end up as a person of high rank as the game goes along.  The sheer power you  accumulate guarantees it.  

[nOrio_26]

Actually The Trevelyan Inquisitor is the third or forth child of the family，and they can't be the heir thus sent to the Conclave. I think their ogrin story would not be so Nobly, maybe could be fun~

[Illegitimus]

Wouldn't a nobleborn Tevinter who was not a mage become less affluent as a result? 

 

 

Not automatically.  You just end up married off to some noble who IS a mage.  

[Mirrman70]

I want a middle class human origin. Merchant family or something.