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Dalakaar

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I see a lot of builds that generally say, "Not good against bosses" or praise their ability to rub mooks off the map faster than others.

 

Is there a kit/build you can think of that does the opposite? Tears bosses down but isn't quite as lickity-split against mooks?

 

Offhand I'd go with the obvious choice of Javelin GI. Missing a mook headshot is just so bloody punishing with that kit. (I usually take a sidearm with ULM. Either Hurricane or Phalanx.)



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Typhoon Destroyer...obliterates bosses...takes some time with mooks due to the ramp up time / mooks moving around..Hawk Missiles tend to stagger the mooks enough for the typhoon to do it's thing or the missiles just take the kill


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Claymore Human Sentinel with Warp Rounds. Kills bosses with incredible speed but is certainly less effective against mooks than most biotic builds.



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Quarian Marksman is the definition of boss killer. Tactical Scan + Marksman = dead boss. He has no grenades and no CC. His skillset is literally designed for single target killing.
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Quarian Marksman is the definition of boss killer. Tactical Scan + Marksman = dead boss. He has no grenades and no CC. His skillset is designed for single target killing.

 

Saber Quarksman is a thing of beauty. In the same way that a force of nature is beautiful... right before it wipes everything out. Had a friend who loved the Saber, but had never used the Quarksman, needless to say, he's a convert ;)


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There are many. Pretty much anything that uses the Reegar and/or the incendiary glitch.

 

Edit: also, why are you even bothering aiming for the head unless you're 100% sure of that shot, with that setup, is beyond me XD



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Saber Quarksman is a thing of beauty. In the same way that a force of nature is beautiful... right before it wipes everything out. Had a friend who loved the Saber, but had never used the Quarksman, needless to say, he's a convert ;)

 

Saber quarksman is awesome. But he's much more efficient against mooks than bosses, with that gun.



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Saber quarksman is awesome. But he's much more efficient against mooks than bosses, with that gun.

Yep. Just ask Jay Hoxtatron. :D

It's great against mooks but its boss killing efficiency isn't far behind at all....especially with a Tac Scan damage increase.
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Any Typhoon build in particular.  The Typhoon tears bosses apart, but it's pretty lackluster against mooks, especially if you don't have an accuracy-boosting power.  Slow ramp-up and so-so accuracy at mid range make it so-so against mooks.


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Quarian Marksman is the definition of boss killer. Tactical Scan + Marksman = dead boss. He has no grenades and no CC. His skillset is literally designed for single target killing.


He has CC. You don't need 6 in fitness. Radius spec sabotage provides quality Mook CC and fun with some bosses.

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Saber Quarksman is a thing of beauty. In the same way that a force of nature is beautiful... right before it wipes everything out. Had a friend who loved the Saber, but had never used the Quarksman, needless to say, he's a convert ;)

 

Saber quarksman is awesome. But he's much more efficient against mooks than bosses, with that gun.

 

I can't even.....


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He has CC. You don't need 6 in fitness. Radius spec sabotage provides quality Mook CC and fun with some bosses.

On gold? Sure. Platinum? Not quite as effective. You don't need 6 in fitness..true but you also don't need 6 in Sabotage (unless you plan with a squad to take advantage of 6B) or maybe you are referring to 4 in Sabotage and 4 in fitness? Another thing is that the Sabotage cooldown will be eating into your Marksman cooldown which defeats the purpose of what he's great at. I mean technically you're correct he has CC but it doesn't synergize with him at all. As you said though, it's a fun power to use and I'm not disputing that much.
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I also believe Huntress is better against bosses (And higher difficulties) than mooks.


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Saber quarksman is awesome. But he's much more efficient against mooks than bosses, with that gun.

I just did a gold solo with this build (vs reapers) and I disagree : obliterating brutes/ravagers/banshees is in my opinion much easier than aiming for bombers/phantoms/dragoons/maraudeurs. But then again you take a scorpion and all your problems disappear :wizard: .

 

And as many said any typhoon build, I would add the prothean particle rifle for the same reasons.


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I just did a gold solo with this build (vs reapers) and I disagree : obliterating brutes/ravagers/banshees is in my opinion much easier than aiming for bombers/phantoms/dragoons/maraudeurs. But then again you take a scorpion and all your problems disappear :wizard: .

 

And as many said any typhoon build, I would add the prothean particle rifle for the same reasons.

 

Sorry to say that, but it seems you just need to learn to pop heads ;)

Once you do, you'll see what I mean. It's a decent anti-armor setup, but it only shines against melons.


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Sorry to say that, but it seems you just need to learn to pop heads ;)

Once you do, you'll see what I mean. It's a decent anti-armor setup, but it only shines against melons.

No offense taken :P  Do you take the scope ? Cause I was nearly always aiming for the body instead of the head due to so-so accuracy


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No offense taken :P  Do you take the scope ? Cause I was nearly always aiming for the body instead of the head due to so-so accuracy

 

No scope. Mag size + barrel, drill ammo, geth scanner. Stab module helps but isn't needed, I guess. And yeah, accuracy isn't what you would expect from such a gun, so it's better to use MM if you're doing a long range shot, if you can.

 

If you want, I guess you can watch some veeeeeery old and low quality (in every sense) gameplay here:

 


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No scope. Mag size + barrel, drill ammo, geth scanner. Stab module helps but isn't needed, I guess. And yeah, accuracy isn't what you would expect from such a gun, so it's better to use MM if you're doing a long range shot, if you can.

 

If you want, I guess you can watch some veeeeeery old and low quality (in every sense) gameplay here:

 

Nice vid. i did a solo with a similar setup : 

But as you see the time is ridiulously long, over 50 mins on gold. That's why I'll follow your advice and take the extended mag instead of the piercing mod and aim for the head, I guess it will be faster.



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No offense taken :P  Do you take the scope ? Cause I was nearly always aiming for the body instead of the head due to so-so accuracy

this should help, or make you feel bad.

 


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There are only three AR's that are arguably worth taking the scope on and they are the Argus, Valkyrie and Revenant.  The Saber should nearly always have mag, extended barrel, and AP or Drill rounds.  You can rarely go wrong in the AR class with that mod and ammo setup, although some are so wimpy Drill isn't a great idea, and the first three are relatively inaccurate relative to their other stats and want some accuracy on most classes.

 

There aren't hardly any builds that are good against bosses but not against mooks.  This is because DPS is king, and if you can drop a target with 48,000 HP efficiently you can probably do the same to one with 1700 or so.

 

The reason the reverse isn't necessarily true is because low tier units do not take much damage to kill, and a low to moderate setup in terms of dps can still potentially one-shot mooks, or shoot-power mooks, or whatever.

 

There are only a couple of units where it is actually prudent to aim for the head with the Javelin GI.  One of which it usually makes sense to stop in her tracks, so it is easy.  Granted, it is slower even if you don't miss compared to several other GI setups.



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this should help, or make you feel bad.

 

I guess both  :P Well my honor is safe as your video is vs cerberus.



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I guess both  :P Well my honor is safe as your video is vs cerberus.

 

Reapers might very well be the worst faction for QMark running Saber since you can't force a power block from the Banshees to get double hits.


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Reapers might very well be the worst faction for QMark running Saber since you can't force a power block from the Banshees to get double hits.

And in addition I had some stupid mod left from a previous game that made the ravagers spawn 40 swarmers at once  :sick:



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The thing about the Saber Quarksman is that Saber is a BRILLIANT mook killer (Especially with headshots), and whilst it isn't great against Bosses, Tactical Scan really does help it against them, making is better than a lot of other mook-killer classes. But yes, capn and crew are correct, it is still a mook-killer, I was just replying to the earlier post about it.



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Offhand I'd go with the obvious choice of Javelin GI. Missing a mook headshot is just so bloody punishing with that kit. (I usually take a sidearm with ULM. Either Hurricane or Phalanx.)

Wait.  It's the GI.  Why use a ULM?  That makes no sense.  GI ain't got no time to bother with "normal" cooldowns.

 

Why am I the first to notice this...?