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Hanako Ikezawa

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a fair point, but remember how everyone took it last time when we had only the one origin 

Last time we only had one origin we also only had one race and had no input. They could do it like Inquisition where you can reflect on your background, like decide if you were born into it or captured, was your magister compassionate or cruel, etc.


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I'm not a fan of the whole "reflective input" thing. I'd genuinely prefer another Hawke sort of deal over that, if it meant a richer protagonist background introduction.

I'm probably in the minority there, and that's okay. My outlook on BioWare games tends to be different from most gamers in general.
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^shiny, lets be bad guys ;)

 

What is the point of being in Tevinter and having badass outfits if we don't get to do at least a little evil cackling? :D


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What is the point of being in Tevinter and having badass outfits if we don't get to do at least a little evil cackling? :D

 

from the top of your castle, while overlooking your army; with lightning in the background (I've thought about this too much)

Last time we only had one origin we also only had one race and had no input. They could do it like Inquisition where you can reflect on your background, like decide if you were born into it or captured, was your magister compassionate or cruel, etc.

that'd be interesting, but it'd feel more constricting than inquisition I think 



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I'm not a fan of the whole "reflective input" thing. I'd genuinely prefer another Hawke sort of deal over that, if it meant a richer protagonist background introduction.

I'm probably in the minority there, and that's okay. My outlook on BioWare games tends to be different from most gamers in general.

 

I'm ok with giving up some choice and flexibility during character creation if it leads to interesting background and roleplaying for the protagonist.  I loved PS:T, and that has a fantastic protagonist introduction, but only a choice of class.  And even the class choice doesn't matter much.


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Heres the list of backgrounds that I think I would like the protagonist to be

Human: Orth Barbarian from the anderfels, a tevinter citizen of some sort. Antivan Crow (since Antiva is in Northern thedas)

Dwarf: Either from Kal-Sharok or from the ambassadorial.

Elf: slave or liberati maybe even a Ben-Hassrath spy.

Qunari: slave, antaam, spy, or saarabas.

I would like that. For me, I'd prefer the humans to be a recently raised Laetan, preferably by an elder sibling mage, so you didn't really know what being a soporati was like, but you're not a proper noble like you always have been previously. I would have either the elves and qunari being definitely Ben-Hassrath, (maybe even blocking out Qunari mages), or a slave. That way, we have two races, the humans and dwarves, who could understandably support the current state of Tevinter, and two races, the elves and qunari who could understandably, support the current state of the Qunari, with everyone being easily able to support a post-Lucerni Tevinter, or a reformed Qunari, (as alluded to by Gatt).

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I'm ok with giving up some choice and flexibility during character creation if it leads to interesting background and roleplaying for the protagonist.  I loved PS:T, and that has a fantastic protagonist introduction, but only a choice of class.  And even the class choice doesn't matter much.

 

Yes, precisely! Planescape: Torment was lovely, and a great example of what I mean.


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I'd be satisfied with a simple soporati soldier or laetan mage for human, escaped slave for elf and qunari, and maybe something with Carta contacts with the dwarves.

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As far as going the Carta route with dwarves again, I feel that there's a lot of potential there that DAI left completely untapped.


I reeeaally hope this is not the case. DC was my favorite origin, and I enjoyed Cadash for what it was, but I hope that's not our only option. There's sooo much potential for a dwarf PC in Tevinter, with the underground embassies and Ambassadoria and Proving Grounds... that, coupled with all this new Titan info, is something I'd like to explore with a more traditionalist dorf. Or at least have the option to do so.

I think I said this in the dwarf thread, but: I want to be the other kind of greedy dwarf stereotype. :P

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leadintea

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Human:

Altus - Mage.

Slave - All classes.

 

Elf:

Laetan - Mage.

Slave - All classes.

 

Dwarf:

Merchant - All classes.

Slave - I know Tevinters don't usually capture and use dwarves as slaves, but couldn't a dwarf in financial trouble sell themselves as one or is it entirely forbidden?

 

Qunari:

Slave - All classes.



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I reeeaally hope this is not the case. DC was my favorite origin, and I enjoyed Cadash for what it was, but I hope that's not our only option. There's sooo much potential for a dwarf PC in Tevinter, with the underground embassies and Ambassadoria and Proving Grounds... that, coupled with all this new Titan info, is something I'd like to explore with a more traditionalist dorf. Or at least have the option to do so.

I think I said this in the dwarf thread, but: I want to be the other kind of greedy dwarf stereotype. :P

 

Honestly after some reconsideration, I agree with you.

 

Though partly because I'm pulling for the human to be soporati/laetan. Figure if I'm arguing for the human to be commoner, need to put the dwarf back in the nobility to balance things out.


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Honestly after some reconsideration, I agree with you.
 
Though partly because I'm pulling for the human to be soporati/laetan. Figure if I'm arguing for the human to be commoner, need to put the dwarf back in the nobility to balance things out.


This would actually be an interesting turn of events! I wonder how much power a dwarf advising the Magisterium would have versus a recently elevated human Laetan?

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Human Mage - Noble

Human non-mage - Gladiator in the Grand Proving Arena 

 

Elf - City elf slave or servant

Elf mage - same but with better treatment or Laetan

 

Dwarf - Kal-sharok or Part of a known Ambassador house 

 

Qunari - Origin story starts off as Qun but leads to being Tal-Vasoth

 

The bridge point of all the origins is they get sold into slavery in a way that would fit each origin. That way some origins go from nothing to nothing elf and qunari or something to nothing Human and Dwarf but still has there previous talents. I want it to make sense for the PC to already be combat cable enough to be the PC and not just start off as a slave with no talents.



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All background options should end with the PC being sold into slavery.
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I would say that if we start out as slaves no matter what, that it be established we weren't born into slavery to account for our combat abilities.



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Dwarves : as mercenary guarding slaves/gladiators about to be sold. Things get ugly when suddenly the 'merchandise' began to riot and you manage to stamp out their so called 'protest'. Dorian being inpressed at your skills decided he could use your talent.
You can reply with:
A. So long as there's bigger money then I'll join
B. Bored, got nothing else to do
C. I can't stomach this work anymore. If your cause is good, I'll join.

Other than Dwarves:
You were captured into slavery and quietly organizing your escape with fellow prisoners. In the slight opportunity you riot, bashing/ sniping/ fireballing your way out. Almost made it, but you are immediately cornered by Tevinter's 'police'. Upon arrest, Dorian shows up and offers to buy you instead. No one dares to oppose an altus magister.
Joining dialogue:
A. Why should I trust a Tevimter magister
B. I'll join you. For now
C. You save my life. Thanks. Shall we go now?

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Actually I find the idea of each race living through different backgrounds a la Origins is kinda fun, not to mention I'd like to start out as a priviledge elf for a change (might be interesting :D maybe as a servant to a kind House that loves her and they grant her some decent position. Bonus point if the Heir of said House has a 'something' with her and plans to make her as concubine :D However the Heir did not survive chapter 1 because of *reasons* ...)
Sorry, my imagination gets the better of me XD
However, I'd rather lower the bar of my expectation since starting as a slave/gladiator/prison guard seemed to be easier done with all that having to divide resources and word budget and all..

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All background options should end with the PC being sold into slavery.


I'd like it more if we could become slavers. It's Tevinter, let the PC's do some sinister **** like in DAO this time around. No requirement to be good guys at the start. I hope we can straddle the grey area as well as the companions.
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I would say that if we start out as slaves no matter what, that it be established we weren't born into slavery to account for our combat abilities.

 

Not every slave scrubs latrines, they can be trained in combat, too - Fenris was trained to be Danarius' bodyguard as a slave.


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#43
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Tevinter noble, and a mage at that. That's a nobility line I would like to look into because of how twisted and constructed it is. And, of course, non-following Qunari in Tevinter/Seheron



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I'm just wondering what kind of companions we'd see this time around.I imagine since we might be playing an entirely new protagonist. I want to see a majority of new characters, but there are some I would like to see return. I mean can we have a DA game without Varric anymore? 



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This idea is a bit extreme but... wouldn't it be interesting that to, instead of playing as a mortal character, you play as a spirit; kind of like Cole? The variations could still exist in class as well as the type of spirit you represent. The idea is a little wild, but one thing I've liked about DA is how each game in the series has been very different from the others, not merely more of the same, and having a spirit protagonist this time would certainly be very different. The Fade could have far more relevance to the pc this way. Romances would be tricky though. It was just a thought. Probably wouldn't work.



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I'd be suprised if we see the return of all four races in DA4. Unless Bioware are set on really improving their implementation, I'd rather not have the watered down versions that we have in Inquisition.

That being said, I'd like to see a slave origin. It encompasses all races and removes complicated backgrounds. Any race can be a slave in Tevinter, even dwarves and qunari.