Yennefer's and Triss looks bother me in Witcher 3, since they look like same person to me
Well, that kinda says more about you, doesn't it? Other than a physical attractiveness, they don't particularly look alike, honestly. From headshape to features generally located on a head, they look quite different.
I would add images, but 2/3's of it seems to be cosplay & fanart. 
My canon Warden is female, because I think the Grey Warden storyline is ever more tragic with the revelation of Brood Mothers and the possible fate awaiting Wardens during their Calling.
I liked male Hawke just because.
I like female Inquisitor, for the symbolism of Andraste's Herald also being female, and for the romance options.
I am a male. All of these characters are not proxies of me, they are characters I am temporarily playing in a fictional world.
Well, that kinda says more about you, doesn't it? Other than a physical attractiveness, they don't particularly look alike, honestly. From headshape to features generally located on a head, they look quite different.
I would add images, but 2/3's of it seems to be cosplay & fanart.
I have seen some pics of them and always find them very similar looking ^^;
"I don't have a counter to your statement" Gotcha.
That's fine, go back to dismissing other people aesthetic sensibilities while simultaneously asking Bioware to take your's into account.
No, I said I had a headache and didn't want to rewrite everything I and other people had already said. My offer for you to try rereading what was already written still stands. And I don't know what you're talking about with the second line.
Edit: Just saw this when I turned the page:
Eh, it's not that the arguments aren't there, it's more like she's probably tired of arguing her basic worth as a human being that doesn't have to fit a male fantasy to retain worth. That **** gets old really quickly especially when you are arguing with someone that doesn't really care to see your point or have any basic empathy towards someone not in their demographic. But, that's fine, go back to making women feel bad. You'll find great company here.
Thanks for writing that for me! 
I have no trouble believing that 65% of people who played Inquisition are men - for every woman who plays as a male character there's probably a man who plays as a female character.
However, I also think that the hardcore fanbase skews more female. We're statistical outliers in a lot of ways, and do all kinds of wacky things most players don't do (like playing as rogues, completing romances and actually finishing the game.) Based on these forums and going to the PAX Inquisition events, the kind of fans who do cosplay and go to panels and are here having this discussion seem to be around 50% women. Or at least the women are disproportionately likely to compliment me on my Grey Warden outfit.
Thank you, you summed up most of what I've been trying to say on this thread. It's fairly obvious that the more "hardcore"/devoted fans are a pretty even split (just looks at this forum, or reddit as well), and I don't find that surprising in the least. I just happen to find that more interesting than how many Inquisitors were created of each gender with no context. I'd be more interested to see how many Inquisitors of each gender finished the game, even if that wouldn't show how many men and women play either.
The only thing of interest there is female is almost half on PC. PC gamers prefer females more signs of our superior tastes.
(this is obviously a joke before someone has something crawl up their ass from this).
Is it weird that I feel a bit ashamed that I play on the platform that has the lowest % of female Inquisitors (Xbox One)? 
My canon Warden is female, because I think the Grey Warden storyline is ever more tragic with the revelation of Brood Mothers and the possible fate awaiting Wardens during their Calling.
I liked male Hawke just because.
I like female Inquisitor, for the symbolism of Andraste's Herald also being female, and for the romance options.
I am a male. All of these characters are not proxies of me, they are characters I am temporarily playing in a fictional world.
See? People have cool reasons for playing different kinds of characters. Why do people always assume men will usually play as males and women will always play as females?
I play both males and females because I want to see all the content and I can't do that if I exclusively play one gender. I don't know if that's the best reason to play different gender/race/class combinations, but it works for me.
Is it weird that I feel a bit ashamed that I play on the platform that has the lowest % of female Inquisitors (Xbox One)?
See? People have cool reasons for playing different kinds of characters. Why do people always assume men will usually play as males and women will always play as females?
You helped that small piece of the pie happen feel proud not ashamed. 
/shallow I play hot male dudes cause I want something nice to look at. I am horrible 
You helped that small piece of the pie happen feel proud not ashamed.
/shallow I play hot male dudes cause I want something nice to look at. I am horrible
Hahaha. Thank you 
Hey, I wouldn't go that far. It's okay to like things
I have seen this bit as well, female characters tend to get less variety look-wise, since they are more clearly divided to attractive and unattractive than male characters. Yennefer's and Triss looks bother me in Witcher 3, since they look like same person to me, just haircolor is different. I think that's quite sad.
I tend to play both genders in Bioware games pretty equally. Though in ME2 I played mostly femSheps because I MUCH preferred the voice acting of the female Shepard to the rather nasal voice of the male Shepard.
In Inquisition, I think playing a female Inquisitor kind of plays into the mythology better; Andraste was a woman, and the Chantry is female led, so that the "herald of Andraste" would be a woman is in line with the belief system. Anyway, I do like variety, and trying out different things, and really see no reason to stick with my gender in games.
I have seen some pics of them and always find them very similar looking ^^;
They definitely are. I couldn't find pictures of them from the exact same angle or the exact same expression, but even a side-by-side shows how similar they are. To me (aside from hairstyle and color) they look about 15-20% different and the rest the same.
More than 15-20% different than the perfect ideal and you get guys flipping out that the character looks like a man and should be killed...
I hate to see overweight people held up for ridicule. That lady is a real person, looks like she's having fun and doesn't deserve to be the poster child for what men find unattractive.
They definitely are. I couldn't find pictures of them from the exact same angle or the exact same expression, but even a side-by-side shows how similar they are. To me (aside from hairstyle and color) they look about 15-20% different and the rest the same.
Spoiler
More than 15-20% different than the perfect ideal and you get guys flipping out that the character looks like a man and should be killed...
I thought I was only one who thought that they very similar, but I'm glad it's not only in my eyes ^^
On the topic, since people like to list what gender they play and why, I play quite equally with both genders, but sometimes more as another gender. It's mostly based on romances, like in ME I'm not really into options for male Shepard so I only have one when I have 2 girls and plan on making 1 more (finished playthroughs, I have ton of unfinished one's both gender). In DAO I have 3 male Wardens and only 1 female one, in DA2 I have 2 female Hawkes and 1 male Hawke. Although I mostly decide gender of my protagonist based on LI's available, some other factors like what ideas I get and which voice actor I like affect it a bit too.
As to the OP:
Goes for hawke , and origins. I watch the videos on youtube everyone not just DA: I wants to play female it seems.
Something im missing? Figured if you play a game you would imagine that the character was you hence role playing right?
Or maybe im paranoid and missing something.
I seem to play a bit more third-person than you do apparently. My character isn't and can never be me. I roleplay a character with a life of their own, me there as an outside force in some completely different world than my own, obviously guiding all the decisions (since I'm like a deity that interjects himself into their lives mwahahaha)- the only way they succeed since the AI would be insufficient. With that as my approach any character is possible- especially non-humans. With your attitude you must play human male... and wield an iphone rather than a sword or magic... In that, way, yes, maybe you're not paranoid ("hypersensitive" is probably a better word for it), but you're definitely missing out. There's a hell of a lot more content in the game (moreso DAO) if you play a different sex or origin, so why not?
I admit, my first character in pretty much every rpg I can think of (where I had a choice) has been a girl... and I'm a (hetero) guy. Maybe it's the "staring at a butt" principle... OK, probably is to some degree... or the "make your own gf" principle... It does tend to make moments of helping my character succeed that much more engaging, the emotional commitment that much more real. Simply helping oneself often doesn't have the same pull. ("Where is the love for one's fellow man?!") Sometimes I feel like a dad who's protecting his daughter through her travails. So sue me. But if this is the sort of thing that gets most guys playing girls, then a predominance of female protagonists with a 68% male playership sounds about right. You should see the GW2 crowd- sooo many male-created females. In an online game where my character is also an avatar of myself, I make all males, as I did with all my characters in GW2. In DA, however, a single-player game (other than DAI's MP element I have no interest in), I've "gone both ways," so to say. After my first character which tends to endear me to the myriad encounters in the game, I play both male and female. So far in DAI I've made 2 females, 4 males (that I intend to play through the entire thing). In DAO it was 4 females to 2 males (with some extras I never played very far). It's just whatever works content-wise, being a content junkie myself.
I too have watched plenty of YT vids on DA- never noticed a predominance of female protagonists. Human, yes, but not female. Not sure what the YT stats on that really are or their relevance either, even if these stats mentioned earlier are pretty interesting. "The most frequent female game player is on average 43 years old and the average male game player is 35 years old." Really? I'm not too old after all!
On the thread's subtopic of attractiveness:
Not sure why Cassie gets a bad rap on looks actually. I tend to like a prominent jaw on a girl, and a lot of lusted-after movie actresses share it- even Angelina Jolie- but Cassie's really isn't that prominent comparatively. I do like longer hair, but Cassie isn't exactly "butch." The girly shows... or my superpower hetero male senses wouldn't tingle. 
("Oh, they tingle at all sorts of women..." Shut up, libido!) Her voice actress is quite good too- not as hawt as Sigrun's, DAOMerrill's, or FemHawke's, but still... Makes Krem a curiosity as well...
I do like the notion of making any armored character wielding weapons look realistically muscular, but it wouldn't necessarily need to result in a beefcake girl though, since Bruce Lee was exceptionally strong but clearly lean and no Hulk Hogan.
On "fat-shaming," I defer to Ricky Gervais (once overweight himself). At a certain age even high metabolism isn't enough. But that's truly another topic entirely, whichever side you prefer to indulge... I'll just say Donk's post last page more outright mocks Cassandra detractors than demonstrates "fat-shaming." It's like, "Uh, so this ain't hawt?" Can't say I feel for male gamers complaining about Cass as a LI if you get that scene...
Never played the game but those two characters look like cheesy-ass fan mods, at least in those screenshots. Nothanku
As to the OP:
I seem to play a bit more third-person than you do apparently. My character isn't and can never be me. I roleplay a character with a life of their own, me there as an outside force in some completely different world than my own, obviously guiding all the decisions (since I'm like a deity that interjects himself into their lives mwahahaha)- the only way they succeed since the AI would be insufficient. With that as my approach any character is possible- especially non-humans. With your attitude you must play human male... and wield an iphone rather than a sword or magic... In that, way, yes, maybe you're not paranoid ("hypersensitive" is probably a better word for it), but you're definitely missing out. There's a hell of a lot more content in the game (moreso DAO) if you play a different sex or origin, so why not?
I admit, my first character in pretty much every rpg I can think of (where I had a choice) has been a girl... and I'm a (hetero) guy. Maybe it's the "staring at a butt" principle... OK, probably is to some degree... or the "make your own gf" principle... It does tend to make moments of helping my character succeed that much more engaging, the emotional commitment that much more real. Simply helping oneself often doesn't have the same pull. ("Where is the love for one's fellow man?!") Sometimes I feel like a dad who's protecting his daughter through her travails. So sue me. But if this is the sort of thing that gets most guys playing girls, then a predominance of female protagonists with a 68% male playership sounds about right. You should see the GW2 crowd- sooo many male-created females. In an online game where my character is also an avatar of myself, I make all males, as I did with all my characters in GW2. In DA, however, a single-player game (other than DAI's MP element I have no interest in), I've "gone both ways," so to say. After my first character which tends to endear me to the myriad encounters in the game, I play both male and female. So far in DAI I've made 2 females, 4 males (that I intend to play through the entire thing). In DAO it was 4 females to 2 males (with some extras I never played very far). It's just whatever works content-wise, being a content junkie myself.
I too have watched plenty of YT vids on DA- never noticed a predominance of female protagonists. Human, yes, but not female. Not sure what the YT stats on that really are or their relevance either, even if these stats mentioned earlier are pretty interesting. "The most frequent female game player is on average 43 years old and the average male game player is 35 years old." Really? I'm not too old after all!
On the thread's subtopic of attractiveness:
Not sure why Cassie gets a bad rap on looks actually. I tend to like a prominent jaw on a girl, and a lot of lusted-after movie actresses share it- even Angelina Jolie- but Cassie's really isn't that prominent comparatively. I do like longer hair, but Cassie isn't exactly "butch." The girly shows... or my superpower hetero male senses wouldn't tingle.
I do like the notion of making any armored character wielding weapons look realistically muscular, but it wouldn't necessarily need to result in a beefcake girl though, since Bruce Lee was exceptionally strong but clearly lean and no Hulk Hogan.
On "fat-shaming," I defer to Ricky Gervais (once overweight himself). At a certain age even high metabolism isn't enough. But that's truly another topic entirely, whichever side you prefer to indulge... I'll just say Donk's post last page more outright mocks Cassandra detractors than demonstrates "fat-shaming." It's like, "Uh, so this ain't hawt?" Can't say I feel for male gamers complaining about Cass as a LI if you get that scene...
They definitely are. I couldn't find pictures of them from the exact same angle or the exact same expression, but even a side-by-side shows how similar they are. To me (aside from hairstyle and color) they look about 15-20% different and the rest the same.
Spoiler
More than 15-20% different than the perfect ideal and you get guys flipping out that the character looks like a man and should be killed...
I don't think they are within 20% of the ideal, I mean, they don't look that much like Grace Kelly.
They definitely are. I couldn't find pictures of them from the exact same angle or the exact same expression, but even a side-by-side shows how similar they are. To me (aside from hairstyle and color) they look about 15-20% different and the rest the same.
Spoiler
More than 15-20% different than the perfect ideal and you get guys flipping out that the character looks like a man and should be killed...
Even though they're stunning as hell (Yen and Ciri fuh lyfe tbh), they do kind of look the same if you squint a little and ignore the obvious hair/eye color. Same face structure and all.
I still like them though, and I also like Bioware's way of making women look a lot more different. Cass/Josie/Sera and the rest of women obviously have very big differences on face features and structure.
I also remember some complaints from male gamers about Yen and how she looked like a drag queen. Top lol.
Yup, the exploitation of children is wrong and people who engage in it deserve censure, no argument about that. But posting a picture of someone with the intention of inciting ridicule based on their appearance doesn't say a darned thing about their behavior. All it says is that the person posting the picture is capable of stooping to that level.
It's also hella off-topic. We were talking about the apparent abundance of players who play as female protagonists, in case anyone has forgotten.
Yup, the exploitation of children is wrong and people who engage in it deserve censure, no argument about that. But posting a picture of someone with the intention of inciting ridicule based on their appearance doesn't say a darned thing about their behavior. All it says is that the person posting the picture is capable of stooping to that level.
It's also hella off-topic. We were talking about the apparent abundance of players who play as female protagonists, in case anyone has forgotten.
I play both males and females because I want to see all the content and I can't do that if I exclusively play one gender. I don't know if that's the best reason to play different gender/race/class combinations, but it works for me.
I fall into this same boat, I tend to want to see it all...well most content anyway. Bioware games are about the only franchise where I'll do more than one playthrough but never more than 3 or 4
But I myself do shift more towards Male playthroughs since I'm a guy and unimaginative terrible roleplayer(according to vocal circles in BSN ), but to the OP, you find that most youtubers who focus on DA are female because they are the most dediciated to it like Lade Insanity and FlufflyNinjaLama. I like DA but even I couldn't upload every moment I wanted to but if you want to see more then buckle down, record some gameplay and some off your MC in all his glory
I have seen some pics of them and always find them very similar looking ^^;
Perhaps, then, it doesn't come out right in still pictures. They really do look quite different when playing the game.
Never played the game but those two characters look like cheesy-ass fan mods, at least in those screenshots. Nothanku
I get the feeling there isn't much TW series could ever have done to have gotten you on board in the first place
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