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Really? Okay, I'll bite. First, let's get this out of the way, because it's cliche, but it's also the truth for a lot of us; if I'm going to stare at someone's butt for a hundred hours, I'd prefer it to be a female butt. Sexist? Maybe. Don't care.

 

Secondly, I, personally, don't actually roleplay when I'm playing a game. That is, I don't project my personality on the character. I like to think that I'm writing a book. My character is the lead. So, I choose to make decisions on their behalf, given what I know or don't know about their personality.

 

Thirdly, I will likely play through a game several times, if I have the option to play as different characters.

 

Fourthly (adjectively) Stereotypes suck.


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As for the comment about people not choosing to play as black characters.. Personally I've never even thought about it. I always play white, though my Qunaris in Inquisition were always dark skinned. It's player choice.. Just because many people like to play a white character it doesn't make them racist. At the very least the option is there for those who want to play as one. These sorts of assumptions are rather annoying.

 

i tend to have my human protags with mixed skin (idfk how else to call it), neither too white or black, but in between. My Trevelyan is mixed (she could easily pass as Antivan or Tevinter) and funny, only my canon Adaar is white.

 

But in cases like Shepard or Hawke, I only use their default look if I like them and thank god I do. :P I always fail at CC in mass effect and previous DA games.


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Lmao. Brave souls. This country is actually filled with some of the most weak willed fools ever to exist. Starting with, but not limited to, the moronic prime minster that just recently got outed. Thank the seven Hells I no longer have to endure footage of him running down the beach in speedos.. Now that is actually scarier than the wildlife.
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Secondly, I, personally, don't actually roleplay when I'm playing a game. That is, I don't project my personality on the character. I like to think that I'm writing a book. My character is the lead. So, I choose to make decisions on their behalf, given what I know or don't know about their personality.

 

Same.



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i tend to have my human protags with mixed skin (idfk how else to call it), neither too white or black, but in between. My Trevelyan is mixed (she could easily pass as Antivan or Tevinter) and funny, only my canon Adaar is white.

But in cases like Shepard or Hawke, I only use their default look if I like them and thank god I do. :P I always fail at CC in mass effect and previous DA games.


I suck at CC as well, you're not alone there. There were a couple of times I got lucky in DAI but otherwise, like you I just go with default Shep or Hawke when the option is there.

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Secondly, I, personally, don't actually roleplay when I'm playing a game. That is, I don't project my personality on the character. I like to think that I'm writing a book. My character is the lead. So, I choose to make decisions on their behalf, given what I know or don't know about their personality.

If you project your personality on the character, you're not roleplaying, you're self-inserting. What you do is closer to roleplaying, though perhaps with an a little more detached attitude than most roleplayers.


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There are some differences.

I.e in my country (Australia) the Aboriginals (natives) are sensitive to much of white society's food due to their genetics not used to them. Alcohol, sugar and flour based products being common offenders. The reason being is that in some parts of the country it wasn't until the 1980's that the Aboriginals started going into white "mainstream" society (God I hate calling it that but I dunno what else to call it) now before that, they lived off the land.. Anything from wildlife to some plants.

As for the current topic: call me insane but I think black people have fair representation. Perhaps it is lacking in some games but Bioware has featured it's fair share throughout both Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

As for the comment about people not choosing to play as black characters.. Personally I've never even thought about it. I always play white, though my Qunaris in Inquisition were always dark skinned. It's player choice.. Just because many people like to play a white character it doesn't make them racist. At the very least the option is there for those who want to play as one. These sorts of assumptions are rather annoying.

 

I don't doubt genetic differences like that.

 

I haven't really paid that much attention of races of characters I create, I guess I have more paler characters than darker one's overall, but IRL races to my DA characters, no idea ^^;



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Have you ever researched medicine in this capacity?

 

http://www.the-scien...e-and-Medicine/

 

The role of race in medicine

These and related findings clearly support the presence of race-related variations in disease risk, disease progression, treatment response, and treatment-related side effects. As such, there remains an important role for race/ethnicity, as a marker for ancestry and often for culture, as well as other sociodemographic traits, in characterizing patients with respect to medical care. These variables can be helpful in understanding key aspects of health beliefs, health behaviors, access to care, and likely response to therapeutic interventions.

 

For example, persons of African descent in the United States who self-identify as black or African American are more likely to have certain biologic traits that were ancestrally protective in Africa, such as heterozygosity for sickle cell disease, which helps to protect against malaria, or the newly described APOL1 gene, which protects against trypanosomiasis (Science, 329:841-45, 2010). Of course, the allele that conveys malaria protection in heterozygotes causes sickle cell disease in those carrying two copies, and persons homozygous for the protective form of APOL1 are at increased risk for kidney failure. Thus, in settings where malaria and trypanosomiasis are rare, these biological traits are disadvantageous and may impart adverse health consequences.

 

The dogma, race is a social construct is actually dangerous to human beings who want to receive appropriate medical treatment.

The confusion and answer is best stated here-

 

 

Is race, then, purely a social construct? The fact that racial categories change from one society to another might suggest it is. But now, says Fullwiley, assistant professor of anthropology and of African and African American studies, genetic methods, with their precision and implied accuracy, are being used in the same way that physical appearance has historically been used: “to build—to literally construct—certain ideas about why race matters.”

Genetic science has revolutionized biology and medicine, and even rewritten our understanding of human history. But the fact that human beings are 99.9 percent identical genetically, as Francis Collins and Craig Venter jointly announced at the White House on June 26, 2000, when the rough draft of the human genome was released, risks being lost, some scholars fear, in an emphasis on human genetic difference. Both in federally funded scientific research and in increasingly popular practice—such as ancestry testing, which often purports to prove or disprove membership in a particular race, group, or tribe—genetic testing has appeared to lend scientific credence to the idea that there is a biological basis for racial categories.

In fact, “There is no genetic basis for race,” says Fullwiley, who has studied the ethical, legal, and social implications of the human genome project with sociologist Troy Duster at UC, Berkeley. She sometimes quotes Richard Lewontin, now professor of biology and Agassiz professor of zoology emeritus, who said much the same thing in 1972, when he discovered that of all human genetic variation (which we now know to be just 0.1 percent of all genetic material), 85 percent occurs within geographically distinct groups, while 15 percent or less occurs between them. The issue today, Fullwiley says, is that many scientists are mining that 15 percent in search of human differences by continent....

 

...Lost in the discussion about genes, she fears, are “epigenetic” influences: factors that affect gene expression but are not part of one’s genetic code, such as prenatal nutrition (which may influence rates of heart disease late in life). Such biosocial factors—environmental, cultural, and economic—can sometimes be more influential than genes. Fullwiley questions, for example, if the prevalence of diabetes among Native Americans on reservations, or of asthma among U.S. Latinos, is only genetic. Her research in Senegal has reinforced that doubt. Scientists have long searched for a genetic difference that would explain why many Senegalese experience a relatively mild form of sickle cell disease. Fullwiley’s work suggests that many of them may instead be mitigating their symptoms with a widespread cultural practice: phytotherapy—the ingestion of roots from a plant that, preliminary studies suggest, triggers production of fetal hemoglobin, a blood-cell type that doesn’t sickle. “When environmental history, or evolutionary history, gets reduced to racial or ethnic difference,” she says, “that’s a big mistake.”

 

http://harvardmagazi...etic-world-html

 

What a doctor should be looking for is what region of the world your ancestors came from. What type of long term environmental exposure may have put certain pressures on their biology such that they had to develop certain adaptations to survive and that can become life threatening. Your example, Sickle-cell in Africa, is similar to what happens in another part of the world such that in Southeast Asia some Asians have ovalocytosis, a sickle-cell like environmental adaptation to malarias.


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Yeah, it appears that there is a scientific consensus that race is not biological. This isn't news.


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As for the debate about race: I blame progressive biologists for mis-stating their case. The idea that "race doesn't exist on the genetic level" is an overstated simplification, but there is a point behind it: the physical markers of race, which are obviously grounded in specific genetic markers, are not a good indicator for an overall genetic difference. Which means that if you pull a random black person out of the population, and a random white one, and compare both of their genomes to mine (I am white), it's quite possible that overall, I'm closer to the black person. So the idea that a black person is in some way fundamentally different from white me is wrong. The genetic differences exist and they can be significant in very specific circumstances, but they're also superficial. Had someone modified my identical twin with the genes necessary to make him a black person right after conception, he'd still be much closer to me than anyone else of my own ethnicity.    



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Australians are brave souls, isolated from the rest of the world, terrible internet and a place filled with the most venomous animals on earth.

 

Eh, we get used to the venomous creatures. We had redbacks and the occasional brown or red-bellied black snake in the back yard when I was a kid, but most snakes and spiders just want to be left alone. (Tiger snakes can be pretty territorial, though. My grandfather once saw one try to start an argument with a bulldozer. Although it didn't win.) Despite spending the first eighteen years of my life in a rural area, the only native animal I've ever been personally menaced by was a kookaburra.

 

The internet does suck, though.


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Yeah, it appears that there is a scientific consensus that race is not biological. This isn't news.

That is, at the very least, a gross overinterpretation of the quoted text.



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That is, at the very least, a gross overinterpretation of the quoted text.

I wasn't commenting on the quoted text. I'm commenting on every article I've read on the subject. If you have literature that refutes what most scientists are saying and what most universities are teaching, I'd be open to looking at it.



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Eh, we get used to the venomous creatures. We had redbacks and the occasional brown or red-bellied black snake in the back yard when I was a kid, but most snakes and spiders just want to be left alone. (Tiger snakes can be pretty territorial, though. My grandfather once saw one try to start an argument with a bulldozer. Although it didn't win.) Despite spending the first eighteen years of my life in a rural area, the only native animal I've ever been personally menaced by was a kookaburra.

 

The internet does suck, though.

 

Your damn spiders tho. If i was there, I'd soon move out to another country.



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Yes, white privilege plays a role in the lack of discussion about racial representation. I don't feel very qualified to speak on race so I usually limit my comments to "Yes, I support more diversity among the cast" or to state that I agree with someone who is qualified to speak on the issue. I'm fully aware that my own white privilege is the reason that I'm less knowledgeable about racial issues than I should be and I've been making an effort to remedy that by reading and listening to people on these issues.

So, I would love to hear anything you have to say about these issues. Is it problematic that players don't create more black characters? Is that showing some sort of bias? I don't know. Interesting food for thought.

I hope you are sincere with your comments, though as your first one read as if you were mocking feminists. I wouldn't have thought this about other posters but knowing your posting history and lack of empathy towards feminist issues, I suspect your motivations in this. I suspect you are the type to deny male privilege and are throwing out white privilege to see how many feminists will deny having it. Here's to hoping you prove me wrong.

I am just trying to guage just how open or progressive people are to such issues. I have read a lot about white feminist being all for womens rights because of what they have been previously denied but then let a black woman (or woman of another race other than white) add to that stance by fighting for rights granted towards white women but not black, the white feminist is numb or dissmissive of the arguement by saying something like:

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This is why many black women of the late 60s and early 70s joined up withtl the Black Panthers because the mainstream feminist movement was largely geared towards middle class white women and the specific issues of blacm women in this movement went ignored or dismissed.

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I am just trying to guage just how open or progressive people are to such issues. I have read a lot about white feminist being all for womens rights because of what they have been previously denied but then let a black woman (or woman of another race other than white) add to that stance by fighting for rights granted towards white women but not black, the white feminist is numb or dissmissive of the arguement by saying something like:

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I can't read the comic even when making it larger. But, yeah, I know what you are talking about. It's a problem.



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Your damn spiders tho. If i was there, I'd soon move out to another country.


Spiders are nothing! They can be stomped. ;)

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Spiders are nothing! They can be stomped. ;)

 

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Especially those monster spiders of yours. Calm down, Australia.



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Your damn spiders tho. If i was there, I'd soon move out to another country.

I always, lol, at my Aussie neighbors. They consider all the scary spiders and snakes no big deal. But, don't get them talking about the adorable Kangaroos! Those things are pests, they say! :P

 

They go nuts over pictures of squirrels though. Not sure why. :lol:



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I always, lol, at my Aussie neighbors. They consider all the scary spiders and snakes no big deal. But, don't get them talking about the adorable Kangaroos! Those things are pests, they say! :P

 

They go nuts over pictures of squirrels though. Not sure why. :lol:

 

Squirrels? They're so damn adorobu.

 

Australians. :P



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Hey I like kangaroos.

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Especially those monster spiders of yours. Calm down, Australia.


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I wasn't commenting on the quoted text. I'm commenting on every article I've read on the subject. If you have literature that refutes what most scientists are saying and what most universities are teaching, I'd be open to looking at it.

You really should read The Blank Slate, by Steven Pinker.



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You really should read The Blank Slate, by Steven Pinker.

I tried. I did. It isn't the subject matter that turns me off. It's his style of writing. For whatever reason, I cannot make it through his books. I've read Dawkins, Stenger, Harris, Dennet, Russell, Hawkins etc. Pinker just puts me right to sleep. To be fair, though, that was years ago so maybe I should give him another shot.

 

At any rate, do you have a summary of what he is saying or has he written any blogs about this that you know of?

 

ETA: NVM, I've found some articles about his views.



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You really should read The Blank Slate, by Steven Pinker.

What are your views on race vs. intellect? He tackles this question and society's discomfort with confronting differences. But what of your views?

 

My view is you cannot base one's intellect on race or gender.


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