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Alireza888

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Well i'm doing my first Warrior playthrough (Yep! Rogues and Mages everywhere) and i don't know which specialization to pick! Also i don't value OPness but i value a fun and refreshing class!

And please tell me YOUR opinion and don't be like "Champion is for tanking, Reaver is for dps and Templar is balanced and a buffbot"

Also i forgot to mention that i'm already running SnS but i can respec if it's important! But i prefer SnS a little bit more than 2H (Because Earthshaking Strike disappointed me!)



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Templar because the WrathPurge combo is so satisfying.
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I have played warrior a lot since the game's release and i loved both champion and reaver specs. Champions have awesome survivability and their single target dps can get really high with "to the death" (specially if you pair it with your "bee-nade"). I usually run my champs with w&s since the guard stripping capabilities of shield bash been really useful to me in Dragon battles and some of the elites that shield themselves, although a good 2 hander like the Sulevin or the new Chromatic greatsword from trespasser with the right passives should serve you just as well.

Reaver on the other hand is a savage and murderous pain fueled beast, thing is that you have to keep your health in check a lot because if you don't you're just as squishy as a dw rogue. To survive as a Reaver i roll with the new upgrade of War Horn, Fortifying Blast, since it allows you to generate guard fast and unlike the taunting skills of the vanguard tree this one does not generate aggro on you and the nice little buff on damage is nice too and regen potions, i use regen potions when facing a powerful foe or if it seems to be a long battle like those in the descent dlc. I normaly use 2h weapons with the defensive passives of the w&s tree, it really helped me on the survavability issue.

I've nothing to say about templar 'cause i never played one sooo... Yeah that's my 2 cents i hope they help you to take a decision and that you can understand me since english is no my native lenguage and i'm unsure if i wrote the post the right way...
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My best advice is two handed champion. It's an rather underrated combo that can be quite devastating. Combine whirlwind with to the death, and nothing will stand in the way. This is my build at high levels:

 

Upgrade block and slash for defense, mighty blow and whirlwind. The passive clear a path is pretty good too. Then unlock all the abilities in the champion tree. But the focus ability is passable. Then have combat roll to move around the battlefield and quickly get up when knocked down. And war horn to buff damage.

 

Like I said, the best combo of this class is to use to the death on a enemy and hit them with whirlwind. After a few seconds, you will start scoring over 2K damage per hit.


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If you're roleplaying a Faithful Inquisitor that forms the Inquisition as a servant of Andraste, Templar is the spec of choice due to the Templar's former role as the arm of the Chantry.

 

Champion works well for an Inquisitor that keeps the peace in general and works to defend people.

 

Reaver is left for power-hungry Inquisitors.


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CHAMPION: because ... REASONS

 

"I want to take the hardest blow an enemy can land, look him in the eye, and laugh."

 


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Basically put, Reaver for the increased DPS when health is low (which you would mostly be causing), Champion for the increased survivability (take Bulwark and vanguard's untouched defense for max guard, and Walking Fortress for Invulnerability when needed), and Templar for support.

 

Also, I think that race can have a hand in it. Humans may be more leaning towards Templar or Champion, while Dwarf Champion or Reaver and Qunari Reaver almost all the time (elf warriors are not really worth looking at specs for).


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All three can tank or dps. They can be 2h or SnS. New toggles provide great flexibility. Race doesn't matter.
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And to correct, reaver is not hp limited as so much as stamina limited. As long as you have stamina a reaver will have the damage and the durability. No stamina means no ring of pain, no devour to get 80% hp back and so on.

 

If you understand the difference then you will be fine as a reaver. As long as you focus on the hp as a reaver you will be a poor one, instead forget about Hp but focus on stamina instead and that is the trick.


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All three can tank or dps. They can be 2h or SnS. New toggles provide great flexibility. Race doesn't matter.

 

OP asked for opinions, and I gave mine. I find race does matter a little, since race, for me, helps make the decision easier by potentially limiting the number of possible choices for specialization (I am bad at making decisions when there are too many choices around).


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OP asked for opinions, and I gave mine. I find race does matter a little, since race, for me, helps make the decision easier by potentially limiting the number of possible choices for specialization (I am bad at making decisions when there are too many choices around).

You angered Breaker Thram.

I never explicitly said anything in regards to your post (until now) so why did you feel the need to defend (and argue) our differing opinions? Am I not free to provide my own opinion?
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You angered Breaker Thram.

I never explicitly said anything in regards to your post (until now) so why did you feel the need to defend (and argue) our differing opinions? Am I not free to provide my own opinion?

 

Sorry. It was a gut reaction when I saw the race doesn't matter part of your post. Nothing more.


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All good. ;). I do that too.
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Reaver. In terms of Lore I just adore them and unlike being a Templar I don't have to worry about my Inquisitor loosing their mind to their addiction.

 

I prefer using sword and shield with my reaver Inquisitor, the two handed is good but I never fully upgrade it because as you said earthshaking is just a major let down. Also if you have sword/shield you have a larger health pool to draw upon should you need to use dragon-rage. Mostly I use the battlemaster and Vanguard trees when using my reaver Inquisitor but weapon and shield trees do work well with reaver if you know what your doing.

 

I'd say craft your Armour well. I personally prefer to use materials that boost my health, but thats just me and I have no idea what I'm doing. I just went into this specialization because I adore the lore behind it and Champion just sounded boring. 


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Talk to Cassandra after becoming a reaver. Most go insane.
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The most viscerally satisfying for me has been SnS Champion. Damage out put is modest (to be kind)- but mitigated (partially) by the fact that SnS gets three masterworks. Hidden Blades and 12 seconds Horn of Valor are great on an SnS Champion. I make liberal use of 'To The Death' and I enjoy the new Charging Bull which sends people flying (literally- hit one of the JOH mages so hard he was a good 8 feet up in the air and landed in some water). Crippling Smash toggle on Shield Bash is great. You don't ever need to bother with Tac Cam- just charge in and start swinging. Cooldowns are great- and you are almost unkillable. No need to recruit Iron Bull or Blackwall (both of whom I find annoying) if you don't want to.


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Templar because the WrathPurge combo is so satisfying.

I really want to be a Templar (Because of those party buffs) but i'm worried about big enemies! Templar is almost like Rift Mage cause both of them can cause some serious AoE damage but they're somehow useless against enemies like dragons and etc...

Champion is also really cool! The best thing about it is the new toggle for Walking Fortress that converts damage taken to focus! And To The Death is imo OP'iest skill as a warrior!

I tested Reaver with Iron Bull and i'm gonna be honest! I suck with it and i ended up killing myself a few times! But practice makes perfect :D

I've a question: Do Templar skills work against the Venatori,Red Templars,Mages and spellbinders or just rift demons?



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I really want to be a Templar (Because of those party buffs) but i'm worried about big enemies! Templar is almost like Rift Mage cause both of them can cause some serious AoE damage but they're somehow useless against enemies like dragons and etc...

Champion is also really cool! The best thing about it is the new toggle for Walking Fortress that converts damage taken to focus! And To The Death is imo OP'iest skill as a warrior!

I tested Reaver with Iron Bull and i'm gonna be honest! I suck with it and i ended up killing myself a few times! But practice makes perfect :D

I've a question: Do Templar skills work against the Venatori,Red Templars,Mages and spellbinders or just rift demons?

 

There is a toggle that allows templar abilities to be used against magic users for the same effect as they have with demons, if that helps.

 

Might be bugged to only affect wrath of heaven, which honestly, is the only ability worth using.


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Reaver. In terms of Lore I just adore them and unlike being a Templar I don't have to worry about my Inquisitor loosing their mind to their addiction.

 

I prefer using sword and shield with my reaver Inquisitor, the two handed is good but I never fully upgrade it because as you said earthshaking is just a major let down. Also if you have sword/shield you have a larger health pool to draw upon should you need to use dragon-rage. Mostly I use the battlemaster and Vanguard trees when using my reaver Inquisitor but weapon and shield trees do work well with reaver if you know what your doing.

 

I'd say craft your Armour well. I personally prefer to use materials that boost my health, but thats just me and I have no idea what I'm doing. I just went into this specialization because I adore the lore behind it and Champion just sounded boring. 

I'm currently using the tier 3 Battlemaster Mail with Battlemaster Mail Legs and Battlemaster armor arms (Having a hard time finding Mail Arms) with 30% focus gain and  +8 Constitution! It's the best i have!



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I really want to be a Templar (Because of those party buffs) but i'm worried about big enemies! Templar is almost like Rift Mage cause both of them can cause some serious AoE damage but they're somehow useless against enemies like dragons and etc...

Champion is also really cool! The best thing about it is the new toggle for Walking Fortress that converts damage taken to focus! And To The Death is imo OP'iest skill as a warrior!

I tested Reaver with Iron Bull and i'm gonna be honest! I suck with it and i ended up killing myself a few times! But practice makes perfect :D

I've a question: Do Templar skills work against the Venatori,Red Templars,Mages and spellbinders or just rift demons?

 

depends on the combination. Once I combined mighty offense tonic, war horn, ring of pain, rampage and then spammed dragon-rage. Iron bull reduced a high dragon health to half in 20 seconds. Reaver is easily the heavy hitter of warriors, but the downside is that you need to rely heavily on their focus ability to maximize their power.


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Talk to Cassandra after becoming a reaver. Most go insane.

They went insane cause they consumed too much of the blood.
In the ritual only a little blood is used.l according to the way of the reaver codex/notes.
And if such a tiny amount has that much transformative power, no wonder the Reavers in the Pentaghast family grew horns and became bestial.

To be fair, in dialogue with Thram, it does seem Reavers are a little quicker to anger though.

To the OP, 2h Champion is absolutely awesome. Takes a hit and can dish some good damage.

For myself, i prefer Reaver mostly because
*I've always liked Dragons
*Inquisition has draconic looking skills for the Reaver
*Its a form of blood magic
*Qunari believe
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Bear in mind that if you have Trespasser installed then Reavers and Templars each get their own unique piece of armor that is otherwise unavailable. Templars get the Bownammar Plate armor and Reavers get the Disciple's Armor. Champions get a sword called Brand, which has a 10% chance to cast Immolate on hit at 50% weapon damage. All of the items are obtained through the specialisation specific War Table missions. None of the items have schematics unfortunately and they are really more for roleplaying/customization purposes since they will become underpowered at higher levels.
 
Pictures here, Disciple's Armor wiki page here and Brand wiki page here (Bownammar Plate doesn't have a wiki page yet).
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Bear in mind that if you have Trespasser installed then Reavers and Templars each get their own unique piece of armor that is otherwise unavailable. Templars get the Bownammar Plate armor and Reavers get the Disciple's Armor. Champions get a sword called Brand, which has a 10% chance to cast Immolate on hit at 50% weapon damage. All of the items are obtained through the specialisation specific War Table missions. None of the items have schematics unfortunately and they are really more for roleplaying/customization purposes since they will become underpowered at higher levels.
 
Pictures here, Disciple's Armor wiki page here and Brand wiki page here (Bownammar Plate doesn't have a wiki page yet).

So are they usable in the main game? If so that's great!



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So are they usable in the main game? If so that's great!


Yep, as long as you have Trespasser installed. This Reddit thread is probably the best resource we have at the moment on all the new weapons and armor added by Trespasser.
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