I don't care what they do to make it happen...
But at some point in the future I would like a Mass Effect game that is set in the Milky Way again, complete with Earth and the Citadel and Omega and everything. New stuff can be cool, but I hope the original stuff hasn't been forever abandoned.
Why not just play the old games if all you want is the old stuff?
Well, that doesn't make it impossible, any more than going to Ilos without the relay was impossible. Fuel can be scooped en route, and the quarians have expertise in getting food without a planet. But yeah, it's not likely that Tali lives long enough to see Rannoch again. Finding a workable route with discharge point and fuel sources would take a while.
OK - I'll amend my statement to "without the relays, nobody is going anywhere fast"
Shepard would have died of old age before completing the route I took around the galaxy in ME2 without the relays 
Why not just play the old games if all you want is the old stuff?
I want a new game with new features, locations, stories and characters in the Milky Way with SOME of the old environments and features from the original trilogy.
I didn't say "all I want is the old stuff". But I still play the original games and will probably continue to after ME:A is released
Oh, I never thought that you are, just found the thought hilarious that some regular poster here never played the game and just winged it using other people´s comments and some videos.
Nah. Milky Way is f**k up already. I'm happy that instead of making an ending canon, they're going to tell a new story. I'll judge it by its own merits. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
And if you just wanna see the Milky Way, ME1-3 is always there, and I'm sure they'll eventually remaster them, just need to wait a couple of decades 
I want a new game with new features, locations, stories and characters in the Milky Way with SOME of the old environments and features from the original trilogy.
I didn't say "all I want is the old stuff". But I still play the original games and will probably continue to after ME:A is released
You said you want "everything" from the old games.
Erm, no I didn't. I said "the Citadel and Omega and everything" with everything meaning "etc". I want the same universe as the old games.
Erm, no I didn't. I said "the Citadel and Omega and everything" with everything meaning "etc".
I want the same universe as the old games.
Easiest way to stay in the Milky Way and NOT set a canon ending for ME3 is to bypass it all together.
In ME1, Kaiden mentions the 'Goose Chase' FTL tests the Alliance was running. So, who is to say those tests were completely abandoned. Now, an in lore explanation for FTL other than eezo can be used but only for propulsion, not for all the other uses. (true, the relays were a big part of ME but everything else still uses it so the concept is safe)
Now, the MW is huge and the relays are sparsely peppered through it. Move any ship, any person, 400 lightyears away from a relay and you have 400 years of playing around IN the MW before the (bogus) ME3 wave can hit you. With no active Relays around, the farther away you are, the longer the new 'series' of ME games can be used.
Not that I believe BW would ever do something like this but I just put this out there to show how a game could be done in the MW without worry of the ME3 endings.
Shutting up now. Have fun all. 
OK, so say "etc" instead of "everything" and I won't think you mean everything.
Well, have I got good news for you...
Well, sorry, but that's the dialect people use around where I live. Saying "etc" out loud sounds weird in a casual conversation and it leaked onto here.
I meant the part of the universe that is the Milky Way. Stop being so awkward and wilfully obtuse
Well, sorry, but that's the dialect people use around where I live. Saying "etc" out loud sounds weird in a casual conversation and it leaked onto here.
I meant the part of the universe that is the Milky Way. Stop being so awkward and wilfully obtuse
Now, the MW is huge and the relays are sparsely peppered through it. Move any ship, any person, 400 lightyears away from a relay and you have 400 years of playing around IN the MW before the (bogus) ME3 wave can hit you. With no active Relays around, the farther away you are, the longer the new 'series' of ME games can be used.
The energy from the Crucible traveled many times faster than the speed of light. It spread through the galaxy faster than even Reapers travel.
So me the proof? Nothing states the speed of the stupid wave. It moved (in the cut scenes) at different speeds and the only time it was shown moving at/above the speed of light was in the actual ME relay. Outside of the relay beam, it would propagate at the same speed as light.
ME was supposed to be Science Fiction, not Fantasy though the BW team forgot that part it seems. I'm just trying to put SciFI back where it belongs.
And the BW team never stated its speed so they could set its speed without breaking more lore/physics though I doubt they really care.
So me the proof? Nothing states the speed of the stupid wave. It moved (in the cut scenes) at different speeds and the only time it was shown moving at/above the speed of light was in the actual ME relay. Outside of the relay beam, it would propagate at the same speed as light.
ME was supposed to be Science Fiction, not Fantasy though the BW team forgot that part it seems. I'm just trying to put SciFI back where it belongs.
And the BW team never stated its speed so they could set its speed without breaking more lore/physics though I doubt they really care.
You are really going to argue with the speed of a magic space bean that transforms every living creature into a synthetic being?
besides it clearly moves at the speed of plot.
edit I like the typo bean
.... it clearly moves at the speed of plot.
Which is a very interesting speed which varies between 0 (Shepard pootling about in the Mako digging up minerals) and several hundred thousand light years a minute (jumping from Rannoch to Cerberus HQ to Earth in just about enough time for Harbinger to make a nice cup of tea).
You are really going to argue with the speed of a magic space bean that transforms every living creature into a synthetic being?
besides it clearly moves at the speed of plot.
edit I like the typo bean
Exactly, it moves at the speed of PLOT.
Easily manipulated by BW to fit with the speed of light had they decided to not jump the shark and take ME to Andromeda. That is all I'm saying, not trying to change what happens in ME3 (though I really want to) at all.
Think back to the original ending, before the Extended Cut, before all the DLCs that were designed to attempt to fill in all the holes the original ME3 had.
The cut scene showing the wave propagating throughout the galaxy was just a device to show HOW the wave reached the entire galaxy, not its actual speed.
The scene with the Normandy crashed on the planet, the one and only epilogue of ME3. It was used to show you what became of your choice and nothing more. It was not meant to show any time lapses since BW has no concept of that in the game.
All you're going to prove with this argument is that the cutscenes for the wave contradict the lore as badly as the space battle cutscenes do.So me the proof? Nothing states the speed of the stupid wave. It moved (in the cut scenes) at different speeds and the only time it was shown moving at/above the speed of light was in the actual ME relay. Outside of the relay beam, it would propagate at the same speed as light.
So me the proof? Nothing states the speed of the stupid wave. It moved (in the cut scenes) at different speeds and the only time it was shown moving at/above the speed of light was in the actual ME relay. Outside of the relay beam, it would propagate at the same speed as light.
ME was supposed to be Science Fiction, not Fantasy though the BW team forgot that part it seems. I'm just trying to put SciFI back where it belongs.
And the BW team never stated its speed so they could set its speed without breaking more lore/physics though I doubt they really care.
The scene with the wave engulfing the Normandy and the scene with the wave spreading through the entire galaxy via the relay network prove that it was moving many times the speed of light.
In your eyes. I see a visual representation of what is HAPPENING, not what HAPPENED. The wave is spreading.
Remember, the epilogue was... poor (non-existent to me).
In your eyes. I see a visual representation of what is HAPPENING, not what HAPPENED. The wave is spreading.
Remember, the epilogue was... poor (non-existent to me).
So your argument is "Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"
Sorry, but that's stupid. We saw what we saw. The game didn't suddenly become avant-garde just because the writing got lousy.
You believe what you want, as we all do.
Not trying to force my views on anyone, just explaining mine is all I am doing.
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