I suppose I could pull gifs from one of the vids, though that's a bit more work than I feel like doing at the moment. Note that interior damage is visible in the memorial scene, though.Can you point to the damage you're talking about behind the door and show that same spot as the Normandy leaves?
Heh. Point taken.How does making an observation make me attached to the idea? The same can be said for you since you seem to be attached to the idea the ship was repaired before leaving
Voyager was set in the furthest reaches of the Milky Way galaxy. It wasn't just the same universe, it was the same galaxy.
I was using it to show that a spin-off can be anywhere
Not to pick a nit, but ME1 had 3 choices though 2 mechanically were the same.
1. Save the council(you I guess are labeling that do something to help others) I see it as risk it all to save a few.
2. Let them Burn. Muhahah renegade with racist stylings.
3. Focus on sovereign: sacrifice the few to increase your odds to save the rest.
The result when brought into ME2 as far as I can tell 2 and 3 because the same, which is somewhat logical but you'd think you would release your communication logs if it showed you not to be a racist ass hat and were just trying to stop the threat. I don't know if it was a bug, or something but I also had a weird part where even though end of ME1 we were going to have a multi-racial council when I got to ME2 it was a all human council.
I just thought it was do what best for Earth or do what's best for the galaxy
I just thought it was do what best for Earth or do what's best for the galaxy
Focus on sovereign has nothing to do with what is best for earth, it is the best for the galaxy choice if you don't metagame the I know we always win part. It was the tactical choice to win the day when you don't know if you can stop sovereign and save all life in the galaxy yet. Save the council is taking a risk on saving all life in the galaxy so a few politicians can add stability if there is something left. Rarr, let them die is a best for earth decision or Humanity#1, or if I was playing shadowrun don't shoot until you see the points of their ears.
The Destroy fans are supposed to be a huge majority here; my impression is that's actually true. Maybe it wouldn't be that bad
No it is not a HUGE majority. It is the ending most picked but not even all metrics show it as a majority. By any rational standard canonizing Destroy will alienate at least a 1/3 of your fans if not over 1/2 of your fans. Canonizing any ending doesn't work to healing the community over the feelings of the endings it actually works to exacerbate the issue.
The best way to heal the rift the endings made is to do NOTHING to try and change them or canonize one or reference them in future games. Let them pass into memory and move on to a different series. Oh and guess what they are.
Do not get me wrong picking an ending that is your favourite and making it a canon ending will likely make YOU feel better but it will p!ss people off who don't share your SUBJECTIVE view point. If they made control or green space magic canon I'd be royally p!ssed. So because I am not a psychopath I can take a situation that I would find irksome and use these feelings to EMPATHISE with other people if my preferred ending was picked. So it really doesn't take much effort to see why they didn't go this route.
No it is not a HUGE majority. It is the ending most picked but not even all metrics show it as a majority. By any rational standard canonizing Destroy will alienate at least a 1/3 of your fans if not over 1/2 of your fans. Canonizing any ending doesn't work to healing the community over the feelings of the endings it actually works to exacerbate the issue.
The best way to heal the rift the endings made is to do NOTHING to try and change them or canonize one or reference them in future games. Let them pass into memory and move on to a different series. Oh and guess what they are.
Do not get me wrong picking an ending that is your favourite and making it a canon ending will likely make YOU feel better but it will p!ss people off who don't share your SUBJECTIVE view point. If they made control or green space magic canon I'd be royally p!ssed. So because I am not a psychopath I can take a situation that I would find irksome and use these feelings to EMPATHISE with other people if my preferred ending was picked. So it really doesn't take much effort to see why they didn't go this route.
And people get mad at a lot of things. And for reasons that perplex me, this seems to be especially true of video games. We don't always have the mental bandwidth to empathize over every little thing people get mad at, especially when we genuinely don't understand the anger. Doesn't make one a psychopath.
Maybe not every little thing ... but an inability to empathise is one of the classic hallmarks of psychopathy.
Maybe not every little thing ... but an inability to empathise is one of the classic hallmarks of psychopathy.
No it is not a HUGE majority. It is the ending most picked but not even all metrics show it as a majority. By any rational standard canonizing Destroy will alienate at least a 1/3 of your fans if not over 1/2 of your fans. Canonizing any ending doesn't work to healing the community over the feelings of the endings it actually works to exacerbate the issue.
The best way to heal the rift the endings made is to do NOTHING to try and change them or canonize one or reference them in future games. Let them pass into memory and move on to a different series. Oh and guess what they are.
Do not get me wrong picking an ending that is your favourite and making it a canon ending will likely make YOU feel better but it will p!ss people off who don't share your SUBJECTIVE view point. If they made control or green space magic canon I'd be royally p!ssed. So because I am not a psychopath I can take a situation that I would find irksome and use these feelings to EMPATHISE with other people if my preferred ending was picked. So it really doesn't take much effort to see why they didn't go this route.
By alienate 1/3 the fans you mean mildly irritate 1/3 and alienate 1 to 3 fans?(yes I'm using hyperbole)
I think you vastly overestimate the rage from a canon ending. Sure maybe we'd hear from 1-20 different people on a hourly basis on these forums for a few months, But obsessed fans are not the norm. The vast vast majority of the player base will be happy as long as its a solid game with a good story and good character interaction. They might prefer a different canon ending or a better way to resolve it, but they wouldn't be alienated.
But yes for the next game we know they are going to MEA and probably not making a ending canon in codex entries. What they do in ME5 or MEA2 or whatever we don't have any idea on.
Only way I can think of is setting it so far into the future that whether you picked Control or Destroy is irrelevant. Sorry to those who picked it, but Synthesis is the ending I'd disregard, not because I dislike it (which I will readily admit that I do) but because the kind of world it creates has the least potential for an actual conflict. It's just an ultimate happy ending where everyone is homogenised and gets along with each other, and the whole point is that it leads to an "unimaginable" future so just keep it as an alternate timeline. Control and Destroy are the endings that don't warp the world so much that it might as well be a different franchise.
Focus on sovereign has nothing to do with what is best for earth, it is the best for the galaxy choice if you don't metagame the I know we always win part. It was the tactical choice to win the day when you don't know if you can stop sovereign and save all life in the galaxy yet. Save the council is taking a risk on saving all life in the galaxy so a few politicians can add stability if there is something left. Rarr, let them die is a best for earth decision or Humanity#1, or if I was playing shadowrun don't shoot until you see the points of their ears.
The needs of the many out way the needs of the few (Save Council) or what's best for the Galaxy
The needs of the few out way the needs of the many (let the Council Die) or what's best for Earth
Three ways endings can play out that would make it easy for writers to continue
destroy) It was stated that reaper tech (relays and citadel shown) was rebuilt. They could have rebuilt pacified or reprogramed reapers. As a war hero they could have programmed an actual shepard VI/AI that had the restrictions that EDI had prior to collector ambush in ME2 controlling the fleet. The normandy at least would have a record of the events of the leviathan DLC and therefore they would know at least the big oopsie that the leviathans made and we know the oopsie the quarians made so greater percaussions would of course be made to prevent this tragedy. As computers still exist EDI would have been backed up primarily on the Normandy like the amulet Flemeth hands Hawke in DA2 and can just obtain a new post war built body
control) Shepard is now star child and therefore much like destroy except any synthetic life forces are not dead, and the resources are not spent rebuilding the reapers themselves.
synthesis) Since Shepard is now within every life form whether organic or synthetic star child could have assimilated Shepard and become him/her like in control.
Ultimately: A Shepard AI/VI is now in the role of controlling the reapers and the reapers serve the citadel races. The differences would be in the resources spent to rebuild, are the synthetic races still alive? the evolution in synthesizing synthetics and organics, and possibly how free willed the Shep AI/VI is.
The needs of the many out way the needs of the few (Save Council) or what's best for the Galaxy
The needs of the few out way the needs of the many (let the Council Die) or what's best for Earth
You don´t know if you need every last ship, it´s not like you aren´t shooting hostile ships and the ships you conveniently wait to get shredded are allied vessels.
How about the galaxy gets sucked into a massive black hole, some time after Mass effect 3. Time then reverses. We come out at the start of Mass Effect 1 and get a big, giant, do-over. That would work. Short of that, lets hop on an Ark and move on.
If they make one of the colours canon, oh boy. I can imagine the quality topics we'll get here.
At least it's the least craptastic one where your character doesn't die a ridiculously stupid death,
I'm not sure why Joker would go into the relay in the first place with the knowledge there'd be no escape. It could have been his character's desperate and love-blinded attempt to ride off a cliff Bonnie and Clyde style with his EDI, trying to save a life - though in the case of synthesis, this wouldn't work either. Though perhaps in that case, he simply was mistaken and was intending to jump to a particular destination before the crucible triggered but misjudged time and got trapped in a race against the wave due to error of judgement.
Well, Joker has no way of knowing when the wave will actually trigger. Or what it will do when it hits the ship, since he isn't part of the conversation on the Citadel.
Well, Joker has no way of knowing when the wave will actually trigger. Or what it will do when it hits the ship, since he isn't part of the conversation on the Citadel.
Then even more convincing that perhaps he was gambling. Again, suicide jump.
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