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[Chappy]

 Sorry about my poor English. English isn't my native language so keep that in your mind when you are reading this.

 

So I heard that if the warden was in romance with Leliana, they are happily together somewhere safe after trespasser.

But why they are the only ones mentioned? What about finding the cure for the calling. Did he/she find it? 

What happened to my Tabris who romanced Zevran? Did he die before he could find the cure? And what about those who romanced Morrigan or Alistair? It's a bit sad that nothing is mentioned. And I really doubt the hero of ferelden will appear in the next game.

I don't remember any mention about my Tabris.. so that is why i am asking. I just really like my warden and would like to know what happened to him.

[Just My Moniker]

Warden be like, "Finding a cure for the Calling?"

 

 

Rather just spend some quality time with Leli lmao 

[Chappy]

Lol 

 

but maybe my warden discovered that he can finally jump, failed, hit his head and lost his memory. So he completely forgot what he was doing. He thinks he Is some noble guy from Orlais or Ferelden. Dunno about Zevran... maybe he is trying to find a way to get his memories back. 

[BansheeOwnage]

 Sorry about my poor English. English isn't my native language so keep that in your mind when you are reading this.

 

So I heard that if the warden was in romance with Leliana, they are happily together somewhere safe after trespasser.

But why they are the only ones mentioned? What about finding the cure for the calling. Did he/she find it? 

What happened to my Tabris who romanced Zevran? Did he die before he could find the cure? And what about those who romanced Morrigan or Alistair? It's a bit sad that nothing is mentioned. And I really doubt the hero of ferelden will appear in the next game.

I don't remember any mention about my Tabris.. so that is why i am asking. I just really like my warden and would like to know what happened to him.

The implication seems to be that they cured it, since the epilogue didn't make any hints about the Warden's time running out. They might be waiting until next game to reveal the full implications of what the Warden found. I hope, because you can't just sweep something like that under the rug.

[Daerog]

-Epilogue Slides are rumor and hearsay (as is a lot of information in Thedas, as all information is given in-universe).

 

-There was no time frame given for the slides, those things just "eventually" happened.

 

-Maybe the Warden was cured, maybe not, headcanon what you wish.

[ModernAcademic]

Whatever the cure is, it will likely figure largely in DA 4.

 

And perhaps it has a lot to do with the crisis that swept the Wardens after Inquisition and was responsible for the falling apart with Weisshaupt.

[Nixou]

Ahem:

 

1. The Quest for a Cure was quite obviously an excuse the writers came up to justify the Warden being offscreen
2. The Quest for a Cure created yet another incomplete plot thread which is for now unresolved
3. There is no reason to go back to the Warden Commander of Ferelden until whatever's happening in Weisshaupt, the nature of the taint or the fate of the Architect and the remaining Darkspawn Magisters is brought back to the forefront, and chances are that won't be the case in DA4.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

Its obviously a nice exucuse she told leiliana, not to have her ask to come back and save the world all ove again.

 

How would it look like if shed write: O yeah wer all partying  from dawn till dawn here at end of the world, so hows that thing with breach going ?

[Ballax]

The Warden cured the calling after a long voyage beyond the furthest edges of the known world and whilst there they embarked on a quest that that could save all of Thedas, even though they would not know it. On his quest the Warden met heroes in their own right and monsters from the dawn of the world. After a campaign of struggle and strife and ultimately victory the Warden set off home to spend a long, long life with their beloved Leliana.They returned to Ferelden just in time to find a note from Leliana.

 

"Gone to tevinter to fight elves, luv u xoxo"

 

Then the Warden decided that they were too old for this **** and went for a nap.

[vertigomez]

Sorry about my poor English. English isn't my native language so keep that in your mind when you are reading this.
 
So I heard that if the warden was in romance with Leliana, they are happily together somewhere safe after trespasser.
But why they are the only ones mentioned? What about finding the cure for the calling. Did he/she find it? 
What happened to my Tabris who romanced Zevran? Did he die before he could find the cure? And what about those who romanced Morrigan or Alistair? It's a bit sad that nothing is mentioned. And I really doubt the hero of ferelden will appear in the next game.
I don't remember any mention about my Tabris.. so that is why i am asking. I just really like my warden and would like to know what happened to him.

Either the Warden found a cure or they didn't, and Zevran's running around killing Crows.

Other than that, details are a bit fuzzy.

[Gervaise]

In a way it is the same situation for Hawke if they survive the Fade.   We ask how they are doing and Varric jokes about how the situation is at Warden HQ and the likely outcome to Hawke being there.   Then in the epilogue we learn that Hawke is back helping Varric run Kirkwall, apparently unscathed but with no reference to how things were left with the Wardens.   Are we to assume that Varric's earlier throw away comment was in actual fact what happened?

 

Whilst we are unlikely to meet the Warden again, the quest to find a cure for the taint probably will come up again.   I think if Leliana's Warden had not found a cure they would have said so.  So it would have read something like "Having not been successful in finding a cure.........."    The reality is that the writers are probably keeping their options open on that one.     The odds are that the origins of the taint are not what we have been led to believe from the Chant and we will find the true nature of the affliction, plus perhaps a way to reverse it, in the next game.    Hint: A wizard did it (but it was one with pointed ears).

[Mr_Q]

I just have my Warden commit the ultimate sacrifice these days and leave Hawke in the fade. It's best closure that I can provide them since the Dragon Age team doesn't take enough care with their former protagonists in my opinion. I'd love some DLC with Hawke and the HOF just to tie everything up once and for all. 

[kukumburr]

There are a lot of loose ends with the Warden. Everything with the Architect left a bunch of unanswered questions, that letter from Avernus in DA2 about "alarming implications" that should be forwarded to the First Warden, the "gift" Morrigan leaves for the Warden at the end of Witch Hunt that we never hear of again, and now this unresolved search for a taint cure. I mean I like hearing about the Warden but it's getting kind of annoying that we never seem to get answers.

 

I do think though that the epilogue slides don't necessarily happen immediately after Trespasser. It's possible they don't happen until after certain events in DA4 or whatever, we just haven't heard about what happens in between yet. At least, I keep hoping things get explained...

[Ieldra]

There are a lot of loose ends with the Warden. Everything with the Architect left a bunch of unanswered questions, that letter from Avernus in DA2 about "alarming implications" that should be forwarded to the First Warden, the "gift" Morrigan leaves for the Warden at the end of Witch Hunt that we never hear of again, and now this unresolved search for a taint cure. I mean I like hearing about the Warden but it's getting kind of annoying that we never seem to get answers.

I'm fine with that. Eventually I'd like to hear that the Warden got rid of the Taint, but for the other stuff my headcanon is likely better than what Bioware can up with. Granted, they hit my preferences perfectly with this seeking a cure for the Taint thing, but at the same time they turned Hawke out of character with her stupid remarks about blood magic being never worth it. Yes, dear writers, human sacrifice is evil, but the temptation of evil is exactly that it usually does get you results. Rejecting evil would be trivial if it didn't.

[BabyPuncher]

I'm fine with that. Eventually I'd like to hear that the Warden got rid of the Taint, but for the other stuff my headcanon is likely better than what Bioware can up with. Granted, they hit my preferences perfectly with this seeking a cure for the Taint thing, but at the same time they turned Hawke out of character with her stupid remarks about blood magic being never worth it. Yes, dear writers, human sacrifice is evil, but the temptation of evil is exactly that it usually does get you results. Rejecting evil would be trivial if it didn't.

 

I think you've bought into the fantasy a little too heavily, my friend.

 

Did you perhaps mean evil 'usually does get you results' in a world with incredibly feeble resistance and nonexistence punishment to evil? The world of pretty much any game that offers large scale choices, in other words?

[Ieldra]

I think you've bought into the fantasy a little too heavily, my friend.
 
Did you perhaps mean evil 'usually does get you results' in a world with incredibly feeble resistance and nonexistence punishment to evil? The world of pretty much any game that offers large scale choices, in other words?

Consider the real world. For most crimes, in most societies, it's "only the stupid ones get caught" (or the politically inconvenient), and you see the fact that evil usually gets you results in the rare cases when one of the smarter criminals gets caught. I am, of course, talking only about carefully planned actions. Many people are not all that good in planning ahead, but those who are and have enough criminal energy usually get away with quite a lot. Take a look at reality, one not tinted by rose-colored glasses, and tell me that the statement "crime doesn't pay" isn't plainly false. It may be somewhat accurate for the average human in an advanced society with a capable and reasonably uncorrupted law enforcement (which I can count on one hand, if that), but in our stories we don't have either.

Someone like Hawke, with all they have experienced, sounds like a moron when they assert that blood sacrifice is never worth the cost, even if you don't consider that it actually *is* possible to imagine situations where it is worth the cost even if you're not the evil type who doesn't care about others' wellbeing.

[BabyPuncher]

Mmm. I enjoy heist stories and fiction in general far too much to consider such people 'evil' without being a hypocrite. The development and execution of a plan. The skills, the equipment, the courage. Applied problem solving. Independent thinking. Don't you think there's a great beauty to it all? Those are such admirable qualities, I can't dislike criminals who embrace them so thoroughly. As long as they're not going around gunning down innocent people, obviously.

 

Of course, those sorts of criminals are an exquisite rarity. But so it is with all things, eh? 

[Chappy]

Wow. Thanks for all the replies. I hope that we will get some answers in the next game .

 

Now I`m curious about that letter from Avernus. I don`t remember that kind of letter. Was it really important? 

[Nixou]

Wow. Thanks for all the replies. I hope that we will get some answers in the next game .

 

Now I`m curious about that letter from Avernus. I don`t remember that kind of letter. Was it really important? 

 

 

If you allow Avernus to continue his research (either ethically or with more living test subjects, it only changes the text marginally), he eventually finds something about the tainted Warden Blood that freaks him out and convinces the Warden Commander (HoF or Orlesian) to send an urgent message to Weisshaupt

[diaspora2k5]

I think everyone's making some huge leaps as far as a "Cure" is concerned. Undergoing the joining is generally pretty lethal unto itself, for all we know the cure could be something that kills the majority of people who actually try to use it. At that point, I'd assume most Wardens wouldn't even bother, better to die in the deep roads than risk dying attempting to use the cure IMO.

[Ieldra]

Mmm. I enjoy heist stories and fiction in general far too much to consider such people 'evil' without being a hypocrite. The development and execution of a plan. The skills, the equipment, the courage. Applied problem solving. Independent thinking. Don't you think there's a great beauty to it all? Those are such admirable qualities, I can't dislike criminals who embrace them so thoroughly. As long as they're not going around gunning down innocent people, obviously.
 
Of course, those sorts of criminals are an exquisite rarity. But so it is with all things, eh?

Agreed. I was more thinking of people whose actions cause real harm to people, by exploitation, coercion, psychological terror, injury, causing physiological addiction etc.. People get away with a lot of that, especially if they go about it in an organized way, making millions while their victims toil and suffer - or get raped. To rage against such evils is normal, but to say they don't pay is absurd. Depending on where you live, it's the same with blood sacrifice in Thedas, and in addition, it quite possible to imagine that the Wardens' plans might have worked. No more Blights. Wouldn't that have been worth the cost of a few lives, lives of people already commited to giving their lives to this cause?

I'd prefer that Bioware doesn't make my ex-protagonists utter absurdities.

[diaspora2k5]

If Fiona's cure is a byproduct of the Architect's amulet I can't imagine most wardens trying to bother with it considering how it almost killed her IIRC.

[Daerog]

All others who had the amulet (except for Duncan, who had a magic dagger to counter the amulet) died or became Super Ghouls and died later (except Utha).

 

What made Fiona different?

-Mage

-Elf

-Had sex with Marric, the king with dragon blood in his veins, and bore a son who also has dragon blood in his veins.

 

Did any of those things "cure" the Calling? I don't know, but the Origins Warden could be an elf mage who romances Alistair, but she would still have an issue with the Calling... so... I guess Fiona was just special?

[diaspora2k5]

All others who had the amulet (except for Duncan, who had a magic dagger to counter the amulet) died or became Super Ghouls and died later (except Utha).

 

What made Fiona different?

-Mage

-Elf

-Had sex with Marric, the king with dragon blood in his veins, and bore a son who also has dragon blood in his veins.

 

Did any of those things "cure" the Calling? I don't know, but the Origins Warden could be an elf mage who romances Alistair, but she would still have an issue with the Calling... so... I guess Fiona was just special?

It could be like the Joining. Lethal to most people, but works on some.

[Chappy]

 

If you allow Avernus to continue his research (either ethically or with more living test subjects, it only changes the text marginally), he eventually finds something about the tainted Warden Blood that freaks him out and convinces the Warden Commander (HoF or Orlesian) to send an urgent message to Weisshaupt

 

Hmm.. no wonder I did not know about this. I have to replay origins and buy the Warden's keep DLC. I wonder what this Avernus guy discovered that is so shocking.