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[In Exile]

Well wouldn't it be so great if the Warden cured the calling off-screen....

 

I don't want the whole First Warden/Calling angle without the Warden because that makes no sense. A threat to the very order of Grey Wardens - conspiracy, forbidden magic, blight...thingies - and yet for some inexplicable yet very headcanon-friendly reason, the Warden isn't there!

 

There are a sh*t ton of unanswered questions when it comes to the Warden and his journeys, but obviously preserving headcanon is priority so f*ck your curiosity.

 

I don't want the Warden showing up because he/she's retired in a house built with mostly wood and brick somewhere in Ferelden sipping tea and going fishing every Friday. It doesn't really matter if you want the Warden back because I don't want him/her to come back so there.

 

There are perfectly good reasons for the HOF not to be there, like the HOF not giving a flying fig about the GWs. But, of course, since Bioware already stomped on any character who is loyal to the Wardens unto death, I suppose that ship has sailed entirely.

 

Look, this cure for the calling thing is something Bioware threw out there for everyone who'd go on about "But the HOF would totally curb stomp Corypheus because [insert fantasy]" by throwing out some far away quest. 

[kukumburr]

Fiona was a Elvhen Mage, so it makes sense that she'd get cured. Especially since she was carrying a child with dragon blood for a good 9 months

 

Isn't it just the amulet that cured her? I don't understand why people think there had to be something else special about her. Unless I'm mis-remembering the book, I was under the impression that all they Grey Wardens who were carrying the amulets would have ended up cured like Fiona. The problem was all of them except Fiona, Duncan, Genevieve, and Utha died fighting their way out of the Deep Roads. And then Genevieve died at the mage tower shortly after, and Utha decided to let the Architect make her a super ghoul. So only Fiona and Duncan really made it out (and Maric, but he wasn't a Grey Warden obviously), and Duncan's amulet was counteracted by the weird dagger. So Fiona got cured because she was the only one who actually stayed alive long enough to see the effect of the amulet. Or did I forget something?

 

It's interesting that speeding up the taint apparently cured her of the Calling, though. I wonder if the Architect knew that could happen, or if it was just an unexpected side effect?

[Aren]

 

 

Look, this cure for the calling thing is something Bioware threw out there for everyone who'd go on about "But the HOF would totally curb stomp Corypheus because [insert fantasy]" by throwing out some far away quest. 

and yet some people still fail  to see this

cure calling,cure calling,cure calling....oh please

[Aren]

If the Architect could have controlled the actions of Wardens, then he would have done so at Vigil's Keep or when confronting the Hero.

 

The Hero also leaves the area to go back to doing what he or she wants. It isn't until some time after Witch Hunt that the Hero leaves to find the cure. And Morrigan confirms that it was she who set the Hero on that path by providing information about it.

Nah i never need her to do anything,Avernus is my mentor on this  research.

[Heimdall]

Isn't it just the amulet that cured her? I don't understand why people think there had to be something else special about her. Unless I'm mis-remembering the book, I was under the impression that all they Grey Wardens who were carrying the amulets would have ended up cured like Fiona. The problem was all of them except Fiona, Duncan, Genevieve, and Utha died fighting their way out of the Deep Roads. And then Genevieve died at the mage tower shortly after, and Utha decided to let the Architect make her a super ghoul. So only Fiona and Duncan really made it out (and Maric, but he wasn't a Grey Warden obviously), and Duncan's amulet was counteracted by the weird dagger. So Fiona got cured because she was the only one who actually stayed alive long enough to see the effect of the amulet. Or did I forget something?
 
It's interesting that speeding up the taint apparently cured her of the Calling, though. I wonder if the Architect knew that could happen, or if it was just an unexpected side effect?

The amulets actually accelerated the affects of the taint. Fiona removed it before it could go too far and somehow she gets cured of it instead. The book makes it out to be a fluke, though I have my suspicions that her being pregnant with Alistair at this point, with the whole dragon blood thing, might have contributed.

[MrMrPendragon]

There are perfectly good reasons for the HOF not to be there, like the HOF not giving a flying fig about the GWs. But, of course, since Bioware already stomped on any character who is loyal to the Wardens unto death, I suppose that ship has sailed entirely.

 

Look, this cure for the calling thing is something Bioware threw out there for everyone who'd go on about "But the HOF would totally curb stomp Corypheus because [insert fantasy]" by throwing out some far away quest. 

 

and yet some people still fail  to see this

cure calling,cure calling,cure calling....oh please

 

Whatever the reason is on why the Warden had to cure the Calling, whether it be to conveniently not have the Warden present during DAI..... which I totally f*cking know like everyone else so keep these comments to yourself. Don't just assume that everyone who asks for the Warden back is a fanboy who is high on his blighted c*ck. I would argue that people who are pro-wardens argue just as passionately as the people who are anti-warden. The only difference is that the pro-Wardens are always the ones starting threads, but once the thread is there almost everyone there is anti-warden anyway bashing everyone who's even remotely asking for the Warden back as if these people had AIDS that's so contagious that made it's way across the internet and is now crawling out of your monitor and infecting you and your kids.

 

Anyway...or whether it's a setup for an entirely new plot....

 

....it's still a loose end. And I hate loose ends. I would rather have a blood-magic loving Warden Commander who is suddenly had an operation to get a vagina, and be not at all with Morrigan - Yes I am willing to give up my headcanon -  than suffer an off-screen resolution to this Calling plot - which I totally f*cking know that it's nothing but an excuse to not have the Warden show up, just in case anyone else points that out yeah

 

If this was just something simple like the Warden is being hunted by other Grey Wardens because he didn't die after killing the Archdemon and he essentially betrayed the order, then fine that can happen off-screen because it's not as important. But to brush off the Calling subplot, whether it's a just a bs excuse or not, is just bad.

 

As far as we know, the only one who's even pursuing a cure for this is the Warden, not only that, the only one with a lead is the Warden. If your Warden is dead, then fine have the Calling subplot play out without him/her, but given that it's already been established that he is part of that subplot, him/her magically disappearing when they finally tackle this side of the story is just...what?

 

Every setup that's been established has to have a follow up, period. It's not about fanboyism or anti-fanboyism or whatever the hell BSN labels this, it's about finishing a story.

[diaspora2k5]

You guys know that curing the calling isn't the same thing as curing the Blight right?

[Daerog]

You guys know that curing the calling isn't the same thing as curing the Blight right?

 

Right, the Architect "cured" the Calling for the darkspawn when he made them Disciples... and he was able to "cure" the Calling when he super charged the blight in Wardens to make them in Super Ghouls like Utha. This didn't remove the blight in them.