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[Captmorgan72]

Not really sure how that adds to the topic at hand but good for you.

 

Personally I do think that there is some sort of connection between Qunari (and possibly Kossith) and Dragons. The Qunari as a whole seem fascinated/reverent of Dragons and Iron Bull is able to access powers that are really similar to a Reaver without drinking Dragon blood.

Exactly. Bull's ability to use Reaver abilities without drinking dragon blood should point to the obvious conclusion that he already has dragons blood in his veins. 

[TraiHarder]

How do you not get that? Or did you miss I didn't quote you but I quoted someone else?

 

I quoted a post that said that ogres are born out of kossith broodmothers

This:

 

 

That is only partially true because after the Qunari arrived on Thedas, the darkspawn got their hands on female qunari instead. The wiki page about ogres he sourced says this: "Ogres are born from broodmothers who were once female Qunari."

 

The Qunari arrived in 6th age, the fifth blight happened in the 9th age, 300 years later.

 

So unless ogres live 300+ years, the ogres you see in Origins aren't born from female kossiths, but female qunaris instead. So no, we most likely haven't seen sort-of kossith as Skuid suggests.

 

Do you get it now?

 

I obviously didn't get it because I didn't understand your statement wtf?!?!

 

 Do you get it now?

[diaspora2k5]

Kossith and Qunari are pretty similar if not outright identical given Ogres are born from both.

[TraiHarder]

Exactly. Bull's ability to use Reaver abilities without drinking dragon blood should point to the obvious conclusion that he already has dragons blood in his veins. 

 

Maybe they use a substitute of Dragon Pee??? GOOD THEROY HUH HUH WHOS WITH ME YAAAAAAAA!?!?!?!?!?!?

[TraiHarder]

Kossith and Qunari are pretty similar if not outright identical given Ogres are born from both.

 

I don't think that's a good base in any sense seeing as you've never seen a Koosith lol.

[Daerog]

Kossith is likely a culture, not a species. Similar to how Qunari is a culture, not necessarily a species.

 

The "original" Kossith are probably unlike the qunari, as The Iron Bull says, but the qunari were kossith before converting to the Qun.

 

The qunari value those born without horns, and that is either a nod towards the engine limitations from Origins for Sten or it has to do with the origin of the qunari and how they compare themselves with the kossith. The kossith may be horned as well, and the qunari wish to distance themselves from the kossith, or the kossith are hornless and horns reminded the early qunari about their failure or something, so that slowly evolved in their culture to an appreciation for hornless qunari.

 

 

Edit: Maybe the land they came from was known as Kos or Koss, and the people identified with their land. Similar to how Zevran identifies as an Antivan first and an elf second.

[TraiHarder]

Kossith is likely a culture, not a species. Similar to how Qunari is a culture, not necessarily a species.

 

The "original" Kossith are probably unlike the qunari, as The Iron Bull says, but the qunari were kossith before converting to the Qun.

 

The qunari value those born without horns, and that is either a nod towards the engine limitations from Origins for Sten or it has to do with the origin of the qunari and how they compare themselves with the kossith. The kossith may be horned as well, and the qunari wish to distance themselves from the kossith, or the kossith are hornless and horns reminded the early qunari about their failure or something, so that slowly evolved in their culture to an appreciation for hornless qunari.

 

 

Edit: Maybe the land they came from was known as Kos or Koss, and the people identified with their land. Similar to how Zevran identifies as an Antivan first and an elf second.

 

Eh who knows as we know some Koosith converted to the Qui once it was created so I think maybe Koosith is the race. Maybe it means something in Tevinter.

 

As far as what they look like anyone can guess but no one knows. I like the others the others theory on now they came to be by being experiments from Tiventer an the Koosith were the successful ones an what we know now as qunari were the failures

[diaspora2k5]

I don't think that's a good base in any sense seeing as you've never seen a Koosith lol.

How is that not a good base? Elves, dwarves, and humans all have different names for their respective darkspawn equivalents (genlocks, hurlocks, shrieks/ emissaries), the only species that share a darkspawn type are Kossith/Qunari. There may be some differences, but minor if at all.

[Daerog]

A Qunari broodmother could produce Ogres, Shrieks, hurlocks, or gunlocks, depending on the Qunari.

 

Kossith is not necessarily a single species. If that is the case, then we have never run into a kossith.

 

(Ogres are darkspawn, they are not altered qunari, they are not ghouls.)

[TraiHarder]

How is that not a good base? Elves, dwarves, and humans all have different names for their respective darkspawn equivalents (genlocks, hurlocks, shrieks/ emissaries), the only species that share a darkspawn type are Kossith/Qunari. There may be some differences, but minor if at all.

 

Because judging it off of that when no one knows what a Koosith really is is not a good base that's pretty obvious. Lol The Qunari came from the Koosith they could have evolved over the years form the Koosith. For whatever reason it seems the Koosith didn't want them there or so we are told so there must be a reason. An I'm sure it wasn't because those basturds looked exactly like them lol.

[TraiHarder]

A Qunari broodmother could produce Ogres, Shrieks, hurlocks, or gunlocks, depending on the Qunari.

 

Kossith is not necessarily a single species. If that is the case, then we have never run into a kossith.

 

(Ogres are darkspawn, they are not altered qunari, they are not ghouls.)

 

What I was pretty sure the each race makes a different Darkspawn type lol

 

Qunari- Ogers

Elves- Shrieks

Humans- Hurlocks

Dwarfs- Gunlocks I think idk

[Toasted Llama]

I obviously didn't get it because I didn't understand your statement wtf?!?!

 

 Do you get it now?

 

Geez, are you always this rude?

[TraiHarder]

Geez, are you always this rude?

 

Lmao how am I rude by saying exactly what you said?

[Toasted Llama]

Lmao how am I rude by saying exactly what you said?

 

Wasn't talking about the "do you get it now" part, but okay.

[TraiHarder]

Wasn't talking about the "do you get it now" part, but okay.

 

Wow you get offended by three simple letters?

 

You didn't see what you wrote you should read it again. As I responded accordingly bud.
 

[myahele]

I don't think we have have seen, nor will ever see the Kossith. They might have easily been extinct due to their selective breeding program.

 

I imagine them to look closer to skinnier hornless qunari ... mainly because I think the Kossith might have been elves imbued with dragon blood (since their blood is "not theirs") 

 

If there are still Kossith then perhaps they're all way up north of Thedas since the qunari we see all traveled from the North and now can't get back to their homeland due to turbulant seas?

[Lunatic Lace]

K-O-S-S-I-T-H.

[X Equestris]

How do you not get that? Or did you miss I didn't quote you but I quoted someone else?
 
I quoted a post that said that ogres are born out of kossith broodmothers
This:
 

 
That is only partially true because after the Qunari arrived on Thedas, the darkspawn got their hands on female qunari instead. The wiki page about ogres he sourced says this: "Ogres are born from broodmothers who were once female Qunari."
 
The Qunari arrived in 6th age, the fifth blight happened in the 9th age, 300 years later.
 
So unless ogres live 300+ years, the ogres you see in Origins aren't born from female kossiths, but female qunaris instead. So no, we most likely haven't seen sort-of kossith as Skuid suggests.
 
Do you get it now?

Thanks to the taint, the Darkspawn don't die from old age. You might recall the enemy named "Ancient Darkspawn" from the Deep Roads in Origins. So those original broodmothers are likely still popping out ogres.

[Daerog]

What I was pretty sure the each race makes a different Darkspawn type lol

 

Qunari- Ogers

Elves- Shrieks

Humans- Hurlocks

Dwarfs- Gunlocks I think idk

 

Looks like I misspelled genlock. I meant genlock, not gunlock.

 

Anyway, one species of broodmother does make only one type of darkspawn (well, that is if emissaries are considered a different type of darkspawn now or just a variant kind of genlock/hurlock/shriek/ogre).

 

My point is the Qunari are not one species. Tallis is a Qunari; she has pointy ears, no horns, but still a Qunari.

 

Qunari consists of elves, humans, dwarves, and qunari.

 

The Kossith could be like the Qunari, consisting of multiple species, although the "native" or "original" kossith probably don't look like the qunari (the horned giants). I don't see why the Qunari would lie to its people and agents that the kossith don't look like them, and Bull tells us that the kossith don't look like the qunari.

 

However, before the qunari became the Qunari, they were a part of the Kossith, and so when the qunari-Kossith people came to Thedas, they were turned into broodmothers to produce Ogres.

 

Now, maybe the qunari are offshoots of the Kossith, in which case we have seen kossith. If Kossith is a culture, then we have not seen any kossith in game.

[TraiHarder]

K-O-S-S-I-T-H.

 

F-U-C-K-U BEMO
 

[TraiHarder]

Looks like I misspelled genlock. I meant genlock, not gunlock.

 

Anyway, one species of broodmother does make only one type of darkspawn (well, that is if emissaries are considered a different type of darkspawn now or just a variant kind of genlock/hurlock/shriek/ogre).

 

My point is the Qunari are not one species. Tallis is a Qunari; she has pointy ears, no horns, but still a Qunari.

 

Qunari consists of elves, humans, dwarves, and qunari.

 

The Kossith could be like the Qunari, consisting of multiple species, although the "native" or "original" kossith probably don't look like the qunari (the horned giants). I don't see why the Qunari would lie to its people and agents that the kossith don't look like them, and Bull tells us that the kossith don't look like the qunari.

 

However, before the qunari became the Qunari, they were a part of the Kossith, and so when the qunari-Kossith people came to Thedas, they were turned into broodmothers to produce Ogres.

 

Now, maybe the qunari are offshoots of the Kossith, in which case we have seen kossith. If Kossith is a culture, then we have not seen any kossith in game.

 

Come on now you know when I say Qunari I mean ones like Bull really?

[Daerog]

Come on now you know when I say Qunari I mean ones like Bull really?

 

Of course. I was just using the difference between Qunari and qunari to make my point about the Kossith.

 

I just use Q or q for my own posts to make distinctions. I don't expect others to follow suit.

[Reznore57]

I find the selective breeding reason very strange.

If Qunari are a branch of the Kossith , and they breed between them...you don't get a new race .You still get Kossith , maybe prettier Kossith or stronger Kossith if that's what you're aiming for ...but still very much Kossith.

 

Anyway the whole Kossith stuff is a mess , the first clue we got is...Kossith was indeed the race , I think a dev said it's like calling Bostonians ****** sapiens or something ...which is just a scientific word for "human"  ...so calling Qunari "kossith " is indeed right.

Then they backpedaled into some weird explanation saying it was the ancient culture , and then no , it was an old term only a few knew.

Blablablabla.

[myahele]

Qunari makes no sense. For all we know they consider Kossith different because they don't look like Qunari. Only Qunari are Qunari or some bs like that.

 

Would not surprise me if they're "kossith" but with desired features.

[Lunatic Lace]

F-U-C-K-U BEMO
 

 

XD Honestly? Best response ever.