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[Almostfaceman]

 

During the course of Dragon Age: Inquisition, The Dread Solas does not call the current elven people his people. He doesn't consider them to be "real elves", therefore he distinctly seperates himself from the other elves by using languge that referes to them as a seperate entity from his people.

 

For example, if you are an elven Inquisitor, he calls the elves your people, your race, separating himself from them and you. Even if you are his close friend, heck, even if you are his love he still doesn't call you one of his people, you are them, you are separate.

 

Yet he does Sera, WTF !?

 

 

• Solas: Ar dirthan'as ir elgara, ma'sula e'var vhenan.
• Sera: Pppbbthh!
• Solas: Excuse me?
• Sera: Excuse yourself. Whatever you said and what I did, same difference to me.
• Solas: I'd hoped, well, our people can sometimes feel the rhythm of the language despite lacking the vocabulary.
• Sera: Uh huh? Know what else is good? Words that mean things. Like these. Words.
• Solas: Fenedhis lasa.
• Sera: Pppbbthh!
•  
• Solas: Our people used to be here.
• Sera: Pfft, you say that everywhere.
• Solas: It is more true than you want to believe.
• Sera: I bet, right? Who wants to think about stepping on dead elves.
• Solas: Din elvhen emma him?
• Sera: Oh, you felt that one.

 

This opens up a bunch of crazy, interesting questions. Why is Solas only considering Sera one of his people? Is she an elven godess "Andruil" who has gone mad and lost her memory, as many people have speculated before me? 

 

Additionally, Solas has been saying even more creepy, unusual things to Sera, which prove that she is special, and connected to Solas in some way.

 

• Solas: Have you ever had any interest in learning magic, Sera?
• Sera: Get off?
• Solas: While it has not manifested naturally, there are ways to determine whether arcane gifts lie dormant within you.
• Sera: What? Don't make me think about that. I have to sleep at night!
• Solas: Sleeping would give you the chance to explore the Fade. I could introduce you to spirits.
• Sera: Right, you're messing with me on purpose!
• Solas: Why would I do that? It is not as though I know who filled my bedroll with lizards.
• Sera: Heh. Fair point! That was pretty good.

 

• Sera: (shivers) Weird.
• Solas: Sera? What are you feeling?
• Sera: Ugh, here we go. It’s nothing, it just feels like I've seen this. Exactly this. It happens.
• Solas: Not to everyone.
• (If Inquisitor is an elf)
• Sera: It’s not an elf thing. Inquisitor's not shaking.

(Otherwise)

• Sera: It’s not an elf thing. You’re not shaking.
• Sera: I suppose now you’ll switch to how I’m the same but different?
• Solas: You are different. You are the furthest from what you were meant to be.
• Sera: Well I’ve definitely heard ****** like this before. Hmph!

 

• Solas: What color is the sky, Sera?
• Sera: Hang off.
• Solas: It is an earnest question. What color is the sky when you look at it?
• Sera: You know. Blue, mostly. Except for the Breachy bits.
• Solas: And when you looked past the Breach? As perhaps you were drawn to do?
• Sera: Greenish? Then clear a long ways, and kind of... felt like falling.
• Sera: Ugh! Makes my head hurt. You make my head hurt.
• Solas: We are not so far apart, you and I.
• Sera: We will be.

Sera certainly has a special connection with Solas. And I would bet my money that's she an ancient Elvhen, if not Andruil herself. 

 

 

Solas has gone to the Dalish before, to try and tell them that they're wrong. If you're a Dalish Inquisitor, he tells you this. They are separated from the Beyond (the Fade) by the Veil. THAT is how they're not "his people". It's His Fault they're no longer whole elves. 

 

BUT, that doesn't mean they can't be his people once again. That's the journey Solas takes with the Inquisitor. He sees more possibilities.

 

He's going to make any of them that survive the sundering of the Veil "his people" once more. They can (and will) be re-connected with the Beyond. 

 

This isn't that complicated. It completely explains why Solas wants to help "his people" when he talks with Mythal at the end of Inquisition. It's why he calls the "modern elves" to him before he tears down the Veil. There's going to be a restoration.

 

There's really nobody else left to restore. There is NO EVIDENCE that a great number of ancient elves exist anymore. There Is Evidence that the "modern elves" retain the capability to be re-connected with the Beyond. Silly theories about Solas enacting some massive blood-magic ritual that slaughters all these "modern elves" are unfounded and out of character. Solas doesn't use blood-magic. Not even to help out Cole. He hasn't studied it and he doesn't use it. 

[ZoliCs]

*disgusted sound*

 

And the elven inquisitor has Ghilan'nain in them.,

 

 

False, many people where very suspicious of who Solas was even before launch, even rumours that he was part of what happens at the conclave. This is also a discussion board, if you don't like people discussing things you don't like then leave.

 

The irony....

[myahele]

 

So in this magical scenario of yours. Sera spent several centuries as an old god child before randomly starting to grow up the moment someone adopted her? Sure thing buddy.

Unless the soul was passed around ala Flemeth/ maybe even the version of the dark ritual

 

As Cole says (even without doing the Dark ritual) "It was wrong to hide it in the child. It hurt her."

[Almostfaceman]

By the way, Sera isn't the only one who can see things others can't see, the Inquisitor can as well, illustrated in what an elf Inquisitor can see in the Crossroads versus any other race. 

 

It's not just a Sera thing. 

[IAMTHEOVERLORD]

The thought of Sera being something along the lines of Flemeth and Solas is laughable. (you can't see me because computer, but I'm laughing) It's like saying Merrill, or Fenris, or Zevran, or Velanna are Evanuris. Elven companion≠Evanuris 

[Big I]

Just a thought, but would Solas identify himself with the Evanuris? He was their enemy, and he renounced his divinity.

[ZoliCs]

The thought of Sera being something along the lines of Flemeth and Solas is laughable. (you can't see me because computer, but I'm laughing) It's like saying Merrill, or Fenris, or Zevran, or Velanna are Evanuris. Elven companion≠Evanuris 

 

Ehhhhh, not sure if you read the OP, but there was more to it than "Sera = elf = Evanuris".

 

Just sayin'.

[TraiHarder]

Thank you, though the credit is hardly mine as very similar theories have been out there since the game's launch.

 

I think the banter triggers anywhere randomly, though I might be wrong. I agree with your interpretation of " you are the furthest from what you meant to be". Most of these banters could be interpreted as Solas trying to see how much of "her old self" does she still have in her or how much memory has she regained. Perhaps he is trying to make her see her true nature all over again by acting as a mentor figure, or trying to steer her back to her "intended course". Maybe he deleted her memory since she was an "evil Evanuris" and is trying to get her on his side now that she's a blank state.

 

Or maybe the other people are correct, and he is just trying to recruit her network of elves, but the dialouge is so ominous and mystical that I'm almost absolutely sure the writers did this to intentionally hint that Sera is Andruil/Carrying Andruil ala Mythal or at the very least a very special elf.

 

I totally agree with you. His dialogue is so ominous an can be interpreted in so many ways. Im sure we'll figure out more about him an his past an I'm sure it will be very interesting to see what he has planned for others in the world

[jedidotflow]

I think Sera is a mage in denial. However, I'm willing to entertain that she's Andruil because if true, a plausible explanation could be introduced. 

 

What I'm really curious about, and what pushes me in favor of Serandruil, is her fear of the Nothing. Sounds like some traumatic stuff.

[Tielis]

I used to think this theory was ridiculous, but Solas is the only male elf that has a normal body.  The rest look malnourished, and this may be a design decision based on the fact that when the Veil went up, the elves were physically sundered due to them being half spirit originally.

 

The same goes for the female elf bodies... except for Sera's.

[Mr.House]

The irony....

I can make disgusted noises all I want, since I'm not actively telling people to shut up(something that user says alot to people who disagree with them). The theory is simply pure stupid that has NO grounds what so ever. It is pure reaching that makes tinfoilers look more creditable. The fact that THIS is a discussion board means I can show my distaste with the theory and why it holds no ground. No one who believes this theory has ever been able to truly back it up.

 

Let's tale the tarot card for example and lets look at the clues to Flemeths reveal. First clue in game (even looking at the first book, there was far ire to her then she was letting on) to Flemeth being Mythal. Her grimoir had an unmistakable symbol that was Mythal. It was not reaching or trying to twist it into something that was not. Once you looked at the symbol it was clear it was her symbol. Another piece of evidence? Morrigan on how Flemeth is not an abomination or even human, she was something more. This started to make that symbol and the theory hold more gorund. It then took off like wild fire when to bring her back needed to be at Mythals shrine, done by an elven mage.

 

That's what makes for a compelling theory, when you can back it up with real evidence that is not reaching or getting a tinfoil hat. Even Solas's true nature was not a true surprise either because there was so many hints. There's nothing but twisintg her tarrot card and reaching for this theory.

[ArianaGBSA]

I can make disgusted noises all I want, since I'm not actively telling people to shut up(something that user says alot to people who disagree with them). The theory is simply pure stupid that has NO grounds what so ever. It is pure reaching that makes tinfoilers look more creditable. The fact that THIS is a discussion board means I can show my distaste with the theory and why it holds no ground. No one who believes this theory has ever been able to truly back it up.

 

Let's tale the tarot card for example and lets look at the clues to Flemeths reveal. First clue in game (even looking at the first book, there was far ire to her then she was letting on) to Flemeth being Mythal. Her grimoir had an unmistakable symbol that was Mythal. It was not reaching or trying to twist it into something that was not. Once you looked at the symbol it was clear it was her symbol. Another piece of evidence? Morrigan on how Flemeth is not an abomination or even human, she was something more. This started to make that symbol and the theory hold more gorund. It then took off like wild fire when to bring her back needed to be at Mythals shrine, done by an elven mage.

 

That's what makes for a compelling theory, when you can back it up with real evidence that is not reaching or getting a tinfoil hat. Even Solas's true nature was not a true surprise either because there was so many hints. There's nothing but twisintg her tarrot card and reaching for this theory.

So you understand there is undeniable proof that she is Andruil. Thank you, you may go now.

[In Exile]

The Andruil thing doesn't make sense. The entire plot of DA:I revolved around the Solas reveal. DA2 hinted very strongly at Flemeth's identity, even if we didn't realize it. 

 

The tarrot card thing is silly, because the symbollism could be very different (e.g., the writer could just think that Sera is like Andruil). The idea that we've got an actual Evanuris right next to Solas - the beings he thought were so abominable he created the Veil - and he'd basically be somewhere between "whateves" and "oh, let me try and remind you of how elves are teh awesome" just doesn't make sense. 

[Mr.House]

So you understand there is undeniable proof that she is Andruil. Thank you, you may go now.

If your undeniably proof is a heavily edited tarot card to fit your crazy theory, then your theory is as good as dead.

[BansheeOwnage]

 

Based on her apparent age, she was born some time between 9:15 and 9:25.

Wait. You really think she could be 16 at the start of DA:I? I think the writers would make her at least 18 even if only to avoid Unfortunate Implications

[BansheeOwnage]

I think Sera is a mage in denial. However, I'm willing to entertain that she's Andruil because if true, a plausible explanation could be introduced. 

 

What I'm really curious about, and what pushes me in favor of Serandruil, is her fear of the Nothing. Sounds like some traumatic stuff.

I don't see it. Andruil was not afraid of the Void. Quite the opposite, apparently. She went there to kill its (presumably freaky) inhabitants for sport. Then, despite going temporarily mad, opted to go back, multiple times. And even wear the Void. That doesn't sound like fear.

[Mr.House]

I don't see it. Andruil was not afraid of the Void. Quite the opposite, apparently. She went there to kill its (presumably freaky) inhabitants for sport. Then, despite going temporarily mad, opted to go back, multiple times. And even wear the Void. That doesn't sound like fear.

Yup and the personalty DOES not fit. Yeah Flemeth is a awesome cooky old lady, but Flemeth always had a sense she wanted vengance (before it was revealed that is one of her motives in DAI) and she wanted to protect the dalish. That fits Mythal perfectly. Sera only enjoys hurting people who do bad things to the little guys ala nobs in power. That does not fit Andruil AT ALL.

[GoldenGail3]

I do not believe Sera is Andruil. It's ridiculous, she's not. After all, the Evarnus are in the Fade (locked up In the Black City) so it begs the question, who did Andruil escape and put her esscenes In Sera, a elf that hates everything elfy? It brings up a lot of what-Ifs and that's not good enough. Theirs no actual evidence that she's Andruil, and don't you dare bring up that high-approval card (it's non romantic, and it's when you finish her personal quest). Its a crack theory that's been cracked... Like a lot. And why wouldn't Solas regonize Andruil in Sera? That's something that the Dread Wolf would regonize! He's the one that locked them up in the first place. I image he must regonize an Evenaurus on sight, it's sort of his thing, you know.

[Mr.House]

Sera being Andruil would just be a OMG WHAT A TWIST, and those are simply **** writing.

[sniper_arrow]

So you understand there is undeniable proof that she is Andruil. Thank you, you may go now.

 

That is kind of rude to someone who simply disagrees with your theory.

 

Besides, unless Bioware shows more proof on the Sera = Andruil theory in the next game and books/comics, I do not simply buy it.

[Almostfaceman]

So you understand there is undeniable proof that she is Andruil. Thank you, you may go now.

 

[electrifried]

Just a thought, but would Solas identify himself with the Evanuris? He was their enemy, and he renounced his divinity.

I've been wondering that too. Especially since he's considered on the same level as all the other gods. I'm assuming he wasn't a king formally, but he became a leader through rebelling against them. You'd need a lot of power to do this though and Sola says himself there weren't any deities but just really powerful mages. But if he calls them the evanuris wouldn't that make him one too?

[BansheeOwnage]

I've been wondering that too. Especially since he's considered on the same level as all the other gods. I'm assuming he wasn't a king formally, but he became a leader through rebelling against them. You'd need a lot of power to do this though and Sola says himself there weren't any deities but just really powerful mages. But if he calls them the evanuris wouldn't that make him one too?

He might have an equal power level compared to them, but isn't Evanuris a title of some kind? So technically, no.

[sniper_arrow]

He might have an equal power level compared to them, but isn't Evanuris a title of some kind? So technically, no.

 

It's been a while since I played Trespasser, but I do think Evanuris is a title or a group name to classify the elven gods.

[ZoliCs]

I can make disgusted noises all I want, since I'm not actively telling people to shut up(something that user says alot to people who disagree with them). The theory is simply pure stupid that has NO grounds what so ever. It is pure reaching that makes tinfoilers look more creditable. The fact that THIS is a discussion board means I can show my distaste with the theory and why it holds no ground. No one who believes this theory has ever been able to truly back it up.

 

Let's tale the tarot card for example and lets look at the clues to Flemeths reveal. First clue in game (even looking at the first book, there was far ire to her then she was letting on) to Flemeth being Mythal. Her grimoir had an unmistakable symbol that was Mythal. It was not reaching or trying to twist it into something that was not. Once you looked at the symbol it was clear it was her symbol. Another piece of evidence? Morrigan on how Flemeth is not an abomination or even human, she was something more. This started to make that symbol and the theory hold more gorund. It then took off like wild fire when to bring her back needed to be at Mythals shrine, done by an elven mage.

 

That's what makes for a compelling theory, when you can back it up with real evidence that is not reaching or getting a tinfoil hat. Even Solas's true nature was not a true surprise either because there was so many hints. There's nothing but twisintg her tarrot card and reaching for this theory.

 

I'm not really pro Sera = Andruil, but your knee-jerk reactions kinda makes me wish it was true.

 

Why does it hurt you that other people come up with crazy theories and they discuss it? Even more so if you know (well as much as you can know) that it's not true? That should make it all the more easier for you to ignore it.

If I see a theory I don't agree with then I either voice an alternative that I think is more plausible so we can discuss it peacefully, or I ignore the topic entirely when I disagree completely or it really is just that preposterous. I don't go in their thread for the sole purpose to **** all over it.

 

You know, live and let live. And manners. I guess they elude you.