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[In Exile]

Don't get me wrong, they are portrayed like that and it fits my cobra/cobra commander narative.  But, i think its more likely the intended Cerberus narative is that you are only made aware of the screw ups so you can go in and fix them, the sucess stories they don't bother you with because you might find them unethical enough to try and shut down.

 

But that doesn't make sense, because their plots are insane. It's not that they fail. It's that the very premise is sheer lunacy. These are plots that can't succeed, even ignoring the almost comically absurd immorality of it all. 

[Dabrikishaw]

Man it feels like a year since I last posted in this thread but since I'm here I'll say that  Jack Harper was probably  a good man once upon a time. Once he became The Illusive Man however, that stopped.

[wolfsite]

Little gain?  That was for science....  Turn in your mad scientist card and leave.

Don't have one, they rejected me cause I rolled a high number in morality and common sense.

[Ahglock]

But that doesn't make sense, because their plots are insane. It's not that they fail. It's that the very premise is sheer lunacy. These are plots that can't succeed, even ignoring the almost comically absurd immorality of it all. 

 

Oh I agree, hence my Cobra references.  Its my ****** with Shadowrun 5 and how they went with Ares.  Yeah the organization that has been fighting bug spirits and knows they infect and in ME terms indoctrinate people is going to make a bunch of bug spirit/metahuman hybrids with the most slack assed magical security imaginable.  Its a totally insane plan, doomed to obvious horror movie failure.  But due to bad writing on biowares and Catalysts side we are supposed to take Cerberus and Ares seriously.  I wanted to like Cerberus(I liked Ares) but the writing took the stupid level past 9,000 and they tried to play it striaght like I was intended to think it was a decent plan that just went wrong due to unforseen complications. 

 

I think the intent was one thing but really bad writing made the reality another. I mean they weren't even Serpentor bad, they went full Cobra Commander and you never for full Cobra Commander.

[Ahglock]

Don't have one, they rejected me cause I rolled a high number in morality and common sense.

Silly wabbit, those dump stats are for kids.

[Kalas Magnus]

I don't have a problem with looking out for number one.  We all do it to an extent in real life.  And all of our countries do it but there is a fine line between looking out for number one and screwing over others in the process.  And it is a line TIM doesn't give a damn about.

other species like asari had a head start. humanity has to catch up. dont want to end up like batarians or vorcha. playing second string.

[Dantriges]

Humanity had a sweet place having a seat on the council, considering how long humanity was active on the galactic scene and what the Alliance had in colonies population etc. We were already punching way above our weight class. Can´t be THE number one race with the resources, humanity had at their disposal.

[Linkenski]

In ME2 I felt he was a potentially good guy doing suspect **** because the game kept him elusive and honestly it was obvious Cerberus was sort of redefined and ME1's events weren't that important, so I could buy when Jacob and Miranda defended the firm, but in ME3 the supposed "moral ambiguity" of TIM is completely lost. Thanks Mac. I don't believe for a second you actually wrote TIM's dialogue in ME2 lol.

[ShadyKat]

All he wanted to do was save the human race. 
 
If the new game is andromeda, it will be discovered the colony ships sent there were directly funded by cerberus!

Guess Hitler was the "good guy" as well, by your logic.

[ShadyKat]

Humans - Cerberus
Salarians - STG
Turians - Armagier Legion (remember that bomb they planted years ago that you had to disarm and no one ever even knew about it)

Americans - CIA/FBI (we get two because 'murica)
Soviet Union - KGB

Romulans - Tal'Shiar
Federation - Section 31
Cardassians - Obsidian Order

And these are just examples off the top of my head. They do what they do for the good of their people, out of public sight, because if the public knew what was going on they would object. It's a safe presumption that all races have such an organization, even if it isn't present in the story.

None of thos other groups wanted superiority over the other races. Cerberus did.
It's not the same thing.