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[ShadowLordXII]

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Yeah, not buying your straw-manning. My point about Loghain is that Teagan's stance against him was legitimate based on the man's actions and methods which created a very obvious and very real harmful effect on Ferelden.

 

Here? The Inquisition has been doing mostly good things for Ferelden in the name of saving the world and Teagan is misconstruing these actions as a threat. As part of his argument, he's also misconstruing the wardens in the same way and it has no basis despite your assertions which hurts his arguments against the Inquisition.

 

If the Inquisition did takeover Redcliffe which is occupied and ruled by a legitimate lord of a sovereign realm, then that's an aggressive move that needs to be challenged. But an abandoned fortress that's occupied by highwaymen? Plenty more debatable and again, if they want the fortress back then they should've either gotten it themselves or asked for the Inquisition to return it. But Teagan is completely ignoring the context of the fortress' capture as well as Ferelden's apparent inability to retake it themselves and the benefits that occurred with the Inquisition retaking the fortress from lawless bandits that were preying on Crestwood and travelers going through the country.

 

Let's go through the pros and cons, shall we?

 

Pros

The fortress is no longer a hive of scum and villainy

The people of Crestwood are safe from bandits

The road leading through Crestwood is safer for travel and trade between Orlais and Ferelden

 

Cons

The fortress is now run by a foreign quasi-chantry organization

 

And what's so bad about that as long as the Inquisition isn't directly using that position to attack Ferelden or directly seize further territory? And again, if the crown has such a problem with foreigners taking their castles, why not just ask to have the fortress returned? That's certainly more sensible then demanding complete disbandment based on nonexistent evidence of the Inquisition attempting to seize power.

 

When did I ever say that Teagan isn't allowed to say a bad thing against the Wardens? All that I pointed out is that what he is saying here is all based on nonsense based on current events. Even Dryden's revolt was not seizing power, it was essentially supporting the Landsmeet against a tyrant king. Certainly a grey situation and a breach in Warden standard conduct, but it's not as warmongering nor "seizing power in the name of restoring order" as Teagan insists. And again, that was 200 years ago and since then, the wardens have been allowed back into Ferelden and haven't done anything that would make Maric regret his decision.

 

Unless Teagan forgot that all but two of the Ferelden wardens died at Ostagar defending his home and king; forgot that the survivors saved his home and saved his family; those same survivors stopped a civil war that he helped start (Loghain's fault, but still); ended the Blight before it butt-screwed his country more than it already did; and that the wardens were given Amaranthine and again, they saved Ferelden from a darkspawn civil war between intelligent darkspawn and the area has now improved in terms of strength and trade with the rest of the nation.

 

So yes, Teagan's nonsensical comparison to the wardens is nonsense and weakens his criticism of the Inquisition considerably.

 

The reason that Clarel's wardens don't count is because they are based in Orlais and again, were being manipulated by a Darkspawn Magister and his Nightmare Demonic Spider Friend.

 

And even with Inquisition being infiltrated by Solas' spies and the Qunari, that doesn't make Teagan's nonsense any more valid as that can be more owed to bad timing. And even then, the Inquisition STILL saves his life and Ferelden's from yet another danger, but this blows completely over his head due to his delusions of insisting that the Inquisition is a threat when there's way more factual proof to the contrary than he seems willing to admit and it's so long that I won't bother listing it.

 

In fact, I'm certain that you still don't agree with me or my viewpoint and that's your choice. But for brevity, I'll just let you believe what you want as that's what "Teagan" is certainly is doing with his nonsense.

 

Honestly, it's obvious that the whole Exalted Council Ordeal is just a ruse to weaken and slander the Inquisition so that they're kept from shaking the "status quo" of Southern Thedas. The Chantry, Orlais and Ferelden had helped start or were being thrashed by various major conflicts and problems and yet, they turn around and act like the Inquisition is the true problem because it's existence is inconvenient for them. The insane troll logic involved in their arguments are almost laughably frail or hypocritical especially if you consider how often that the Big Three have also been corrupt (which started the Mage-Templar war), infiltrated (All three) or started conflicts where many died (Orlesian Civil War and the Mage-Templar War). Yet they want to point fingers at the Inquisition with nonsensical argumentation and condemnation despite the fact that they're only around because of the Inquisition?

 

Makes me wish that the Inquisitor could just ignore the Council entirely or systematically tear apart their arguments so that there is no basis for the Inquisition to downsize to an honor guard or disband. Oh well, disbanding will have to do and then laugh when Ferelden has it's next big crisis and have it's people call out, "Save us."

 

And then answer, "No."

 

Cause gratitude is apparently a luxury to these fools.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yeah, not buying it.

 

But for brevity, I'll just let you believe what you want as that's what "Teagan" certainly is doing with his nonsense.

Your call if you are not buying that external power seizing lands ,keeping its armed forces on the country territory and thinks is above country law is seen as threat by said country.

 

 

 

Yeah, not buying your straw-manning. My point about Loghain is that Teagan's stance against him was legitimate based on the man's actions and methods which created a very obvious and very real harmful effect on Ferelden.

 

Here? The Inquisition has been doing mostly good things for Ferelden in the name of saving the world and Teagan is misconstruing these actions as a threat. As part of his argument, he's also misconstruing the wardens in the same way and it has no basis despite your assertions which hurts his arguments against the Inquisition.

 

If the Inquisition did takeover Redcliffe which is occupied and ruled by a legitimate lord of a sovereign realm, then that's an aggressive move that needs to be challenged. But an abandoned fortress that's occupied by highwaymen? Plenty more debatable and again, if they want the fortress back then they should've either gotten it themselves or asked for the Inquisition to return it. But Teagan is completely ignoring the context of the fortress' capture as well as Ferelden's apparent inability to retake it themselves and the benefits that occurred with the Inquisition retaking the fortress from lawless bandits that were preying on Crestwood and travelers going through the country.

 

Let's go through the pros and cons, shall we?

 

Pros

The fortress is no longer a hive of scum and villainy

The people of Crestwood are safe from bandits

The road leading through Crestwood is safer for travel and trade between Orlais and Ferelden

 

Cons

The fortress is now run by a foreign quasi-chantry organization

 

And what's so bad about that as long as the Inquisition isn't directly using that position to attack Ferelden or directly seize further territory? And again, if the crown has such a problem with foreigners taking their castles, why not just ask to have the fortress returned? That's certainly more sensible then demanding complete disbandment based on nonexistent evidence of the Inquisition attempting to seize power.

 

When did I ever say that Teagan isn't allowed to say a bad thing against the Wardens? All that I pointed out is that what he is saying here is all based on nonsense based on current events. Even Dryden's revolt was not seizing power, it was essentially supporting the Landsmeet against a tyrant king. Certainly a grey situation and a breach in Warden standard conduct, but it's not as warmongering nor "seizing power in the name of restoring order" as Teagan insists. And again, that was 200 years ago and since then, the wardens have been allowed back into Ferelden and haven't done anything that would make Maric regret his decision.

 

Unless Teagan forgot that all but two of the Ferelden wardens died at Ostagar defending his home and king; forgot that the survivors saved his home and saved his family; those same survivors stopped a civil war that he helped start (Loghain's fault, but still); ended the Blight before it butt-screwed his country more than it already did; and that the wardens were given Amaranthine and again, they saved Ferelden from a darkspawn civil war between intelligent darkspawn and the area has now improved in terms of strength and trade with the rest of the nation.

 

So yes, Teagan's nonsensical comparison to the wardens is nonsense and weakens his criticism of the Inquisition considerably.

 

The reason that Clarel's wardens don't count is because they are based in Orlais and again, were being manipulated by a Darkspawn Magister and his Nightmare Demonic Spider Friend.

 

And even with Inquisition being infiltrated by Solas' spies and the Qunari, that doesn't make Teagan's nonsense any more valid as that can be more owed to bad timing. And even then, the Inquisition STILL saves his life and Ferelden's from yet another danger, but this blows completely over his head due to his delusions of insisting that the Inquisition is a threat when there's way more factual proof to the contrary than he seems willing to admit and it's so long that I won't bother listing it.

 

In fact, I'm certain that you still don't agree with me or my viewpoint and that's your choice. But for brevity, I'll just let you believe what you want as that's what "Teagan" is certainly is doing with his nonsense.

 

Honestly, it's obvious that the whole Exalted Council Ordeal is just a ruse to weaken and slander the Inquisition so that they're kept from shaking the "status quo" of Southern Thedas. The Chantry, Orlais and Ferelden had helped start or were being thrashed by various major conflicts and problems and yet, they turn around and act like the Inquisition is the true problem because it's existence is inconvenient for them. The insane troll logic involved in their arguments are almost laughably frail or hypocritical especially if you consider how often that the Big Three have also been corrupt (which started the Mage-Templar war), infiltrated (All three) or started conflicts where many died (Orlesian Civil War and the Mage-Templar War). Yet they want to point fingers at the Inquisition with nonsensical argumentation and condemnation despite the fact that they're only around because of the Inquisition?

 

Makes me wish that the Inquisitor could just ignore the Council entirely or systematically tear apart their arguments so that there is no basis for the Inquisition to downsize to an honor guard or disband. Oh well, disbanding will have to do and then laugh when Ferelden has it's next big crisis and have it's people call out, "Save us."

 

And then answer, "No."

 

Cause gratitude is apparently a luxury to these fools.

 

 As you edited i will edit too.

 

In first ,place Loghain actions weren't harmful for Ferelden at least not then, in first place when Loghain was confronted by Teagan all Loghain did was trying to take over Ferelden in order to fight blight ,then civil war followed. 

 

Once again i can respond only with LoL, as you pretty much constantly ingore what im saying.In first place Tegan and Ferelden as i said and Tegan said are grateful for inquisition helping Ferelden but once again Inquisition has achived their goal and yet continues existence keeping their forces in ferelden and thinks is above the country law ,avoiding fact they seize control over land when they suits them.So no , once gain Inquisition is threat for Ferelden Authorities and same fact they consider themselves as above Ferelden law shows that.

 

 

<Facepalm> That keep was taken over by bandits doesn't mean foreign force can claim it without consent of the country just because they have killed bandits , as well you can't just claim building because simply it is abandoned.Once again you ingore that in first place Ferelden might have demanded to get it back we don't know , second that they didn't deal with bandits doesn't mean that whoever who will deal with bandits will get Keep... it makes as much sense if Ferelden being fine with Orlais seizing lands just because they cleaned it off bandits and were keeping it safe...

 

Yes , with an exception fortress belong to an Inquisition that now proved is ready to seize ferelden land when it suits inquisition and serves as fortress for Inquistion spies that will now have great foothold to spy on ferelden ,avoiding spreading inquisition influence in ferelden. .

 

Sorry ,but it is dumb to entrust fate of your country whims of external power that already proved they is ready to seize once again your lands when they see it fit and pretty much once again consider themselves above your law ,avoiding fact Orlais was trying put their hand on Inquisition.And once again you use that argument when you have no idea whether they did that or not ,nor that keep matter changes fact that orlais was after inqusition and inquisition keept their forces in ferelden despite organisation had no real purpose anymore , so in fact it was sane thing to demand to disband inquistion ,in fact matter came up even before trespasser .   

 

You pretty much act that way as if individual warden will do something good for Teagan or Ferelden then he isn't allowed to bring anything bad that grey warden order did.Once again , it was seizing power ,that it was for "noble" cause won't change grey wardens were attacking ferelden authorities even if under the pretext of fighting tyrant.Once again that it was 200 years ago doesn't matter, it is still something grey warden order did and just because they didn't do that again since then doesn't erase that fact they did that.

 

Well they died for nothing, battle was lost anyway nor that matters because as i said it won't erase things they done in past.As for 2 inviduals doing things on their own that order didn't contributed to, i belive we had this disscussion and glory goes to stormtrooper not the galactic empire.Your arguments are pointless because once again grey wardens did tried to seize control in Ferelden and by that Teagan can bring it up and compare it something what you seem to treat as Teagan screaming "grey wardens are rapists , monsters and are destroying ferelden" just because he dared to bring something negative that wardens did in the past , and by that your arguments look ridiculous as i said as if thing wasn't allowed to bring up something negative wardens did and try counter it with 2 invidual wardens did for him or his country.   

 

This is another ridiculous argument on your part , in first place avoiding that Clarel and other wardens presented threat to the entire world not only orlais it also leaves on stain entire organisation because they acted as an organisation.That they were manipulated doesn't make their actions any better nor it cancels them ,that they were well too dumb to figure it out is their own fault.

 

LoL, inquistion was infiltrated by Solas and qunari spies of course they were threat avoiding they seized control over palace (once again proving point that inquistion considers themselves as above country law and authority) and didn't inform authorities what was going on keeping problem for themselves , unless you chose to but even then it was final parts of DLC.Even Josephine points that they have point so well so pretty much things Teagan is saying are proved in DLC...

 

That is extremely simplistic view of the council , every part had own intrests orlais wanted control inquisition and ferelden wanted inquistion disbanded because they posed threat to them (i have explained why enough times).From what i recall if we are still talking about Tegan , Ferelden didn't start mage-templar war nor any other conflict in times of inquisition ,they only sheltered mages what of course was dumb idea wasn't cause of conflict ,nor Ferelden would need another problem with very powerful foreign power that do whatever they want on Ferelden territory. 

 

And as i pointed Tegan admited he was grateful ,so once again you repeat same argument few times despite i corrected it many times.

[QueenPurpleScrap]

Umm, guys? You disagree. Repeatedly. Now that you've made your points . . . If you wish to continue your debate, would you please move to pm'img? I'm starting to get deja vu overload. 

 

Thank you for your consideration.

[MidnightWolf]

It is safe to say I was not in the least bit impressed with Teagan in this DLC, and my inquisitior wanted to punch him.
I think what bothered me most was him accusing the Inquisition of potential starting another War..."How long before you drag us into another War" when we hadn't started one in the first place.
Throwing bees at him should have been an option.

[QueenPurpleScrap]

Pranks, definitely pranks

[QueenPurpleScrap]

And a new hat. 

[Former_Fiend]

Umm, guys? You disagree. Repeatedly. Now that you've made your points . . . If you wish to continue your debate, would you please move to pm'img? I'm starting to get deja vu overload. 

 

Thank you for your consideration.

 

That is not how things are done around here, I'm afraid.

 

Would be nice, though.

[sjsharp2011]

It is safe to say I was not in the least bit impressed with Teagan in this DLC, and my inquisitior wanted to punch him.
I think what bothered me most was him accusing the Inquisition of potential starting another War..."How long before you drag us into another War" when we hadn't started one in the first place.
Throwing bees at him should have been an option.

Indeed I wasn't either and neither was my quizzy. The Inquisition formed to stop the war not cause more problems that's how I and my Inquisitor saw it..  They knwe that they'd have to stay active at least until Orlais and Ferelden were both stabilized once again which they weren't.

[almasy87]

Have a question: If you didn't take the Crestwood Keep, does he still tell you how you "seized" the keep? If not, what does he say instead?

Dunno cause both PT I had taken the Keep.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Have a question: If you didn't take the Crestwood Keep, does he still tell you how you "seized" the keep? If not, what does he say instead?

Dunno cause both PT I had taken the Keep.

He instead says inquisition forces are occupying the hinterlands.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Oddly, Loghain doesn't seem to age at all.

 

Well of course, he has the completely stress free job of being a Grey Warden.

[Statare]

As much as I love Trespasser, the Exalted Council aspect of it is poorly done. Basically, the writers needed a representation of those who want to manipulate the Inquisition as an instrument of their political aims (Orlais in the DLC), and a representation of those who fear the Inquisition and want to disband it (Ferelden in the DLC). While this premise was interesting and helped contextualize the player choice, the way it was implemented stank.

 

Naturally, Orlais which was humbled by the events of Inquisition would want to manipulate a powerful, Chantry supported (and thus Orlesian, as the Chantry power-base is located in Orlais), organization into being it's instrument. Orlais is suposed to be present in the Exalted Council from a position of strength as the lands occupied by the Inquisition are in isolated regions (The Approach and Emprise du Lion), the debt the Orlesian ruler would have to the Inquisition for helping them in the Civil War would arguably have been paid off after the Arbor Wilds, and they'd view themselves as more or less the Inquisition's "best friend" during the Corypheus Crisis.

 

Ferelden is coming from a position of weakness. Apparently the Blight, the Breach, the Mage-Templar War and the Corypheus Crisis hit them very, very hard. Much harder than the Mage-Templar War, the Breach and the Civil War apparently affected Orlais. Large parts of the Ferelden Heartland (as opposed to the isolated regions of Orlais we see) are in disarray (Redcliffe, Crestwood, that place in Cassandra's personal quest, and the Storm Coast). Yet, in Trespasser they are grand standing much more than Orlais. Hypothetically, the Inquisition would be in Ferelden's best interests as they stabilized vast parts of Ferelden, allowing their Monarchy to focus power elsewhere and recover from disaster. Also, having the Inquisition between them and Orlais, who if Gaspard is in power, have greedy eyes flashing their way, would be a welcome buffer.

 

Yet, the needs of the story outweigh logic in this case, and Teagan takes the role of the angry grandpa yelling at kids to get off his lawn. The political intrigue part of Trespasser feels really forced, happens suddenly, and really all that you do as the player is choose how angry this makes you, and in the end your choice about the Inquisition has nothing to do with either Orlais or Ferelden's opinions, but with some future threat and how you want to deal with it.

 

The writers should have really dove-tailed the Exalted Council a little better with events that happen over the course of the game. Maybe as part of the build up to the Council we're told of an incident where the Inquisition caused a major problem in Ferelden while trying to do something after Cory has been dealt with, straining the relationship with Ferelden. Maybe how you can deal with the Qunari threat in the DLC can infringe upon the sovereignty of Ferelden and Orlais or you can curtail their wishes and people die.

 

Overall, Teagan largely suffered from underdeveloped aspects of Trespasser, which was mostly the Exalted Council which took an, understandable, backseat to the Elven stuff.

[Carmen_Willow]

Huh, that really does look almost just like Arl Howe and not a older Tegan.

The nose is all wrong for Howe. Rendon has that eagle beak nose that Nathaniel inherited in a more sublime form.

[Carmen_Willow]

Your Royal Majesty and Most High Lord Teagan,

 

With regard to your complaints that the Inquisition has grown too powerful, may I point out certain facts to the two of you: 

 

Excuse me my lord, but didn't you turn tail and run from your Arldom? Didn't we get rid of those darned Tevinters for you? Didn't we give it back? And didn't the Wardens save your bloody village from your nephew's high jinx much more recently than the time when they were exiled?

 

And Your Majesty, didn't we uncover an assassination plot and save your bottom? Didn't we broker a peace between you and Orlais? And you call us power mad, territory grabbing whatevers?

 

Perhaps your memories are failing, or perhaps you've been listening to the Queen who seems to be taking over where her paranoid father left off.

 

If you want the keep returned, you shall need to pay us for the work we did bringing peace and trade back to Crestwood. We also expect to be reimbursed for the liberation of Redcliffe.  I shall send you each an invoice.

 

Sincerely, Your Inquisitor.

[PrettyFrog]

In my head-canon, Eamon is just pissy that everyone keeps calling him Teagan for some reason.

[TheKomandorShepard]

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Allowing very powerful external force do whatever they please in in ferelden serves their interests? Hardly , it is all fun that inquistion keeps military in ferelden (well not rly) and helps peasants but it short-sighted view and situation will be less fun when they start claming lands what could have already be in case.

 

Your Royal Majesty and Most High Lord Teagan,

 

With regard to your complaints that the Inquisition has grown too powerful, may I point out certain facts to the two of you: 

 

Excuse me my lord, but didn't you turn tail and run from your Arldom? Didn't we get rid of those darned Tevinters for you? Didn't we give it back? And didn't the Wardens save your bloody village from your nephew's high jinx much more recently than the time when they were exiled?

 

And Your Majesty, didn't we uncover an assassination plot and save your bottom? Didn't we broker a peace between you and Orlais? And you call us power mad, territory grabbing whatevers?

 

Perhaps your memories are failing, or perhaps you've been listening to the Queen who seems to be taking over where her paranoid father left off.

 

If you want the keep returned, you shall need to pay us for the work we did bringing peace and trade back to Crestwood. We also expect to be reimbursed for the liberation of Redcliffe.  I shall send you each an invoice.

 

Sincerely, Your Inquisitor.

 

Avoiding that you would show disrespect to him proving him that you don't give crap what ferelden authorities say and that Redcliff was saved by 1 or 2 individual wardens not by an organisation , i want to remaind that you pretty much seized ferelden lands without their consent so yeah "We seized your lands and benefited from it and now pay us for keeping lands we took away from you safe ".Also pretty much im sure helping someone doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.

[Lumix19]

Allowing very powerful external force do whatever they please in in ferelden serves their interests? Hardly , it is all fun that inquistion keeps military in ferelden (well not rly) and helps peasants but it short-sighted view and situation will be less fun when they start claming lands what could have already be in case.


Avoiding that you would show disrespect to him proving him that you don't give crap what ferelden authorities say and that Redcliff was saved by 1 or 2 individual wardens not by an organisation , i want to remaind that you pretty much seized ferelden lands without their consent so yeah "We seized your lands and benefited from it and now pay us for keeping lands we took away from you safe ".Also pretty much im sure helping someone doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.

There's a lot that exists in-between the Inquisition "doing whatever it wants" and "completely disbanding". Fereldan could support the Inquisition serving under the Chantry, it could work together with the Inquisition on what Fereldan feels comfortable with. There's no reason to look at the Inquisition as a "foreign power doing whatever it wants" and then jumping to the opposite end of the spectrum where "they must be disbanded completely!".

[Joe25]

So Cullen has been in DA for ten years. During that time, He has been a drug user, and he looks younger than he did in DAO. Teagan has been DA for ten years, and looks like he has transitioned from thirty to fifty. What have you been up to Teagan? My venting aside, It does make sense that Teagan would look like he is in his fifties. He was born nine years before the Dragon Age, and he is briefly mentioned in The Stolen Throne. So, if you take the year that  Inquisition takes place (so 9:44), add the two years of the game's story, plus the two year leap he would around fifty-seven. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

There's a lot that exists in-between the Inquisition "doing whatever it wants" and "completely disbanding". Fereldan could support the Inquisition serving under the Chantry, it could work together with the Inquisition on what Fereldan feels comfortable with. There's no reason to look at the Inquisition as a "foreign power doing whatever it wants" and then jumping to the opposite end of the spectrum where "they must be disbanded completely!".

Yeah , sorry but i wouldn't trust chantry either avoiding fact inquisitor is pal with divine and pretty much chantry in first place have more in common with Orlais than Ferelden and is even involved in orlesian politics.From what i recall we have examples in history where chantry and divine used it forces on another country to benefit Orlais.Is there no reason , avoiding claiming lands in ferelden without ferelden consent and pretty much that what inquisition demonstrated in trespasser pissing on authorities and country laws (hell,look at the title)?

[Carmen_Willow]

 

 

Avoiding that you would show disrespect to him proving him that you don't give crap what ferelden authorities say and that Redcliff was saved by 1 or 2 individual wardens not by an organisation , i want to remaind that you pretty much seized ferelden lands without their consent so yeah "We seized your lands and benefited from it and now pay us for keeping lands we took away from you safe ".Also pretty much im sure helping someone doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.

My former Carta member Dwarf warrior doesn't give a crap for their itty bitty feelings. She feels that she paid for those keeps in blood and treasure at a time when Ferelden's nobles were notably absent in defending their people. She has rebuilt them, stocked them patrolled the highways so that trade could flow, etc. etc., Unlike certain countries, she feels that the land belongs to those who can hold it against bandits, demons and other villains.

 

In feudal times, it was the warrior who did these things that was given fealty by the lesser folk. Who knows? Perhaps the Banns might elect my Dwarf queen, given the fact that the Crown and the highest nobles appear to be absent in their duty to their people. Anyway, that's how my former Carta member sees it. In fact, she might say, "Bring it."

 

My other Inquisitors might take a different position. In fact, my human mage just disbanded her Inquisition, and my Dalish elf is entirely too focused on saving Solas from himself to worry about Ferelden's political position.

 

It's all in the roleplay.

[Lumix19]

Yeah , sorry but i wouldn't trust chantry either avoiding fact inquisitor is pal with divine and pretty much chantry in first place have more in common with Orlais than Ferelden and is even involved in orlesian politics.From what i recall we have examples in history where chantry and divine used it forces on another country to benefit Orlais.Is there no reason , avoiding claiming lands in ferelden without ferelden consent and pretty much that what inquisition demonstrated in trespasser pissing on authorities and country laws (hell,look at the title)?

That's not the only other option either. Fereldan could have supported a greatly reduced Inquisition that was still independent, it could have proposed that the Inquisition be subject to joint Fereldan and Orlesian oversight, it could have sent an advisor/ambassador to give the Fereldan perspective on matters which the Inquisition involved itself in, there were plenty of options that Fereldan could have taken before jumping to "disband".

[Andromelek]

I have to wonder why these brick-heads would believe that the Inquisition wants to take over Ferelden? The perfect chance to do that was two years ago just after Corypheus' defeat; with the Inquisition on its best and the Orlesian ruler on their feet, that was what Tevinter and Orlais did on Nevarra and the Free Marches, giving them two years to recover should be enough prove to deny their complaints, but of course, the Queen is daughter of a traitor that uses such mean to self save her neck and the King is a verified traitor, I think I shouldn't be surprised.

[TheKomandorShepard]

My former Carta member Dwarf warrior doesn't give a crap for their itty bitty feelings. She feels that she paid for those keeps in blood and treasure at a time when Ferelden's nobles were notably absent in defending their people. She has rebuilt them, stocked them patrolled the highways so that trade could flow, etc. etc., Unlike certain countries, she feels that the land belongs to those who can hold it against bandits, demons and other villains.

 

In feudal times, it was the warrior who did these things that was given fealty by the lesser folk. Who knows? Perhaps the Banns might elect my Dwarf queen, given the fact that the Crown and the highest nobles appear to be absent in their duty to their people. Anyway, that's how my former Carta member sees it. In fact, she might say, "Bring it."

 

My other Inquisitors might take a different position. In fact, my human mage just disbanded her Inquisition, and my Dalish elf is entirely too focused on saving Solas from himself to worry about Ferelden's political position.

 

It's all in the roleplay.

Well Teagan was correct about your dwarven inquisitor being threat to ferelden authorities aside from eveyrhting else inquistion did.

As for roleplay i get that i myself like to play different characters ,what sadly is very restricted in bioware games since dao.

 

 

That's not the only other option either. Fereldan could have supported a greatly reduced Inquisition that was still independent, it could have proposed that the Inquisition be subject to joint Fereldan and Orlesian oversight, it could have sent an advisor/ambassador to give the Fereldan perspective on matters which the Inquisition involved itself in, there were plenty of options that Fereldan could have taken before jumping to "disband".

For what purpose? In first place as i said many times in this topic inquisition goal was achieved and organisation had no real purpose so there was no reason to mantain inquisition at all ,all it would give Ferelden is external force that have influence and hold in ferelden even if shrinked still would be under chantry control and probably orlais. 

 

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