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[Former_Fiend]

It reminds me of Fenris. He starts out as a loner and by the end he feels like one of the group. That's why Varric is awesome no matter what version of DA he is in.

 

Fenris is a good example. 

 

I just want to avoid a situation like those with Dorian or Merrill(two characters I otherwise really like) where despite the positive relationships they have with other party members, refer to the PC as their "only friend". I'm sure that's meant to be heartwarming, but I don't quite buy it. I buy Morrigan considering us her only friend, but those two are just being overly dramatic.

[Sifr]

Fenris is a good example. 

 

I just want to avoid a situation like those with Dorian or Merrill(two characters I otherwise really like) where despite the positive relationships they have with other party members, refer to the PC as their "only friend". I'm sure that's meant to be heartwarming, but I don't quite buy it. I buy Morrigan considering us her only friend, but those two are just being overly dramatic.

 

I can understand Dorian leaving Felix and Alexius off that list, since one (or both) of them can be deceased and he burned that bridge with his mentor, but even with the excuse that he's just using hyperbole, it still feels a little disingenuous to Mae to not include her.

 

Same with Merrill, who clearly has a deep friendship with both Isabela and Varric. We know from party banter and codex entries that Varric is the one who goes out of his way to keep the Lowtown gangs from hassling her, as well as paying for food to be delivered to her door for an unromanced Merrill, due to her obsession with the Eluvian causing her to forget to eat.

 

I prefer they handle continuing relationships from game to game to how they handled Varric's friendship with Hawke, where you really got the sense of the many friends that Varric has, it's probably his friendship with Hawke that is the one he holds the most dear.

 

(Although does anything change if you had Hawke rival with him in DA2, am curious to know?)

[Dabrikishaw]

I prefer no one who could be dead in any of the previous games to come back as companions, for reasons that are obvious by now.

 

I'd also care very little to have Harding as a companion, but that's because I just never grew to care about her.

 

My top picks for returning NPCs as future companions are Calpernia and Valta.

[daveliam]

I agree about not wanting to see an excess of magical resurrections.  If a character's fate is ambiguous (such as Calpernia) or if they clearly set up a loop hole (like the magical smoke rising from Yavana's still living body and entering the dragon), then I'm less against it.   But I'm not a fan of the whole "This character is dead and we see their dead body but they got better because they have sexy thighs magic" explanation that people are hoping for.

 

From the OP list, as usual, she makes a lot of assumptions.  There's nothing saying that we are definitely having 9 companions again or, if we do, that it will be evenly split between the classes.  It's not a bad assumption, but it's an assumption, not a fact.

 

I agree that we'll likely see Harding and Maevaris as companions.  I'm not sold at all on Michel (or Abelas as he was added in later). 

 

Marius could be interesting, but, obviously we don't know enough about his story to see if it makes sense, although I do think the timing makes sense for someone from Mage Killer to make an appearance.

[Andromelek]

I prefer no one who could be dead in any of the previous games to come back as companions, for reasons that are obvious by now.

I'd also care very little to have Dagna as a companion, but that's because I just never grew to care about her.

My top picks for returning NPCs as future companions are Calpernia and Valta.

Wait... Dagna? Pertty sure she is a good arcane (althought I prefer Sandal) but I doubt she can actually fight.

Anyway Calpernia can be dead too.

[AresKeith]

I think this is the option. I belive Michel can be optional follower.

 

Even optional followers can't be past characters who can die

[Yinello]

I am sure Hariding will be LI- developers seems tested if we'd like to romance dwarf or not.

 

I sure hope so - though the fact they have to test this is silly. Varric still has a huge following crying over the fact they can't romance him since DA2.

[Andromelek]

Even optional followers can't be past characters who can die

That wouldn't be new, they already did it on ME

[AresKeith]

That wouldn't be new, they already did it on ME

 

And they stated that they want to avoid doing it again since people kept criticizing it

[Former_Fiend]

 

From the OP list, as usual, she makes a lot of assumptions.  There's nothing saying that we are definitely having 9 companions again or, if we do, that it will be evenly split between the classes.  It's not a bad assumption, but it's an assumption, not a fact.

 

 

 

 

While it is an assumption, I personally think it is a model they should stick too.

[Andromelek]

And they stated that they want to avoid doing it again since people kept criticizing it

People always complains, but for our current discussion and community's taste that would be the ideal thing to do, then people could get the dead characters and others could keep them dead and just get done with it.

[AresKeith]

People always complains, but for our current discussion and community's taste that would be the ideal thing to do, then people could get the dead characters and others could keep them dead and just get done with it.

 

Except it screws up the companion roster just to appeal with people obsession with certain characters 

[Dabrikishaw]

Wait... Dagna? Pertty sure she is a good arcane (althought I prefer Sandal) but I doubt she can actually fight.

Anyway Calpernia can be dead too.

I miss-typed there. I meant to say Harding.

[AresKeith]

Wait... Dagna? Pertty sure she is a good arcane (althought I prefer Sandal) but I doubt she can actually fight.

Anyway Calpernia can be dead too.

 

Calpernia's fate was left very ambiguous compared to Michel and Abelas 

[Babelas]

Calpernia's fate was left very ambiguous compared to Michel and Abelas 

But I think she's dead. However, I could see that Abelas might survive since he is Elvhen. The difference is I wouldn't complain if they brought Calpernia back. People make too much of a big deal out of this. It's a game not a book. Besides there are ways to implement it where people who chose for a character to die can be without that character. 

[AresKeith]

But I think she's dead. However, I could see that Abelas might survive since he is Elvhen. The difference is I wouldn't complain if they brought Calpernia back. People make too much of a big deal out of this. It's a game not a book. Besides there are ways to implement it where people who chose for a character to die can be without that character. 

 

How is Abelas being Elvhen meaning he might survive?

[Former_Fiend]

I've always been against the carry-over of companions from one game to another. I want the Warden's team to be the Warden's team, Hawke's team to be Hawke's team, the Inquisitor's team to be the Inquisitor's team, and the DA4 protagonist's team to be their team, all with as little crossover as possible.

 

We haven't exactly had that yet, but I'm hoping that DA4, moving to Tevinter, that's going to be a good opportunity for a relatively clean break.

[Dabrikishaw]

How is Abelas being Elvhen meaning he might survive?

They think Abelas is the same type of creature as Mythal. 

[AresKeith]

I've always been against the carry-over of companions from one game to another. I want the Warden's team to be the Warden's team, Hawke's team to be Hawke's team, the Inquisitor's team to be the Inquisitor's team, and the DA4 protagonist's team to be their team, all with as little crossover as possible.

 

We haven't exactly had that yet, but I'm hoping that DA4, moving to Tevinter, that's going to be a good opportunity for a relatively clean break.

 

To be fair, if someone like Harding becomes a companion then it's still the DA4 protag's team

 

They think Abelas is the same type of creature as Mythal. 

 

That's just as far-fetched as Sera being one

[Sifr]

I sure hope so - though the fact they have to test this is silly. Varric still has a huge following crying over the fact they can't romance him since DA2.

 

It's a little inane that we've not had a single dwarf romance yet, when when you put it in perspective, we've been able to romance thus far;

 

Six Elves, Eleven Humans and One Qunari*

 

(*Minus prostitutes and one night stands, which would add a few dwarves to the list... and some nugs)

[Former_Fiend]

To be fair, if someone like Harding becomes a companion then it's still the DA4 protag's team

 

 

True. Still, I'd like to see a roster of wholly original characters.

 

Wouldn't mind Harding or Calpurnia coming back as major NPC's. Hell, I'd love to see that. But not as squad members.

[daveliam]

Except it screws up the companion roster just to appeal with people obsession with certain characters 

 

Exactly.  The difference between having optional recruits and having possibly dead characters as companions is that the former is an active decision that the player is making in the current game.  The latter is an effect of a decision that the player made in a past game.  I'm not a fan of having a decision in a game possibly 8+ years earlier affecting companion rosters. 

 

How is Abelas being Elvhen meaning he might survive?

 

I've also had them argue that because he died "near the Well of Sorrows" they could explain away his resurrection that way, even though I can't seem to remember any link between the Well and resurrection being mentioned in the lore. 

[Tielis]

I really love the folks with apparent Abelas hate-ons.  (That was sarcasm, in case you hadn't noticed.)

 

Since we have the Keep, I really wish they would take a chapter from the Mass Effect series and insert a random in the spot if you did kill so-and-so.

 

Being punished by other people's bloodlust turns out to be no choice at all.

[Former_Fiend]

I really love the folks with apparent Abelas hate-ons.  (That was sarcasm, in case you hadn't noticed.)

 

Since we have the Keep, I really wish they would take a chapter from the Mass Effect series and insert a random in the spot if you did kill so-and-so.

 

Being punished by other people's bloodlust turns out to be no choice at all.

 

That goes both ways. If Abelas or any returning but possibly dead character is a companion, even an optional companion, people who didn't like that character are being 'punished', such as it were, by having that character take up a companion slot that could have gone to an original character they could have liked.

 

I don't have a hate-on for Abelas, but I do have a serious hate-on for Michel, and if he ended up taking up a companion slot that could have gone to a new concept, I would be livid.

[AresKeith]

I really love the folks with apparent Abelas hate-ons.  (That was sarcasm, in case you hadn't noticed.)

 

Since we have the Keep, I really wish they would take a chapter from the Mass Effect series and insert a random in the spot if you did kill so-and-so.

 

Being punished by other people's bloodlust turns out to be no choice at all.

 

That wouldn't work in cases of companions