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#26
Illyria

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What happens to Sera?

 

Edit: Wait, I thought there were 25 posts per page. Did I break BSN?

 

Sera can get married to her Inky.   She also goes through some decent character development if the Inquisitor is elven.


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What happens to Sera?

 

Edit: Wait, I thought there were 25 posts per page. Did I break BSN?

Meh hers might be stretching it a bit but the warmth and affection she shows the Inquisitor during her friendship scene in Tresspassers and the cold aloofness she shows otherwise was rather stark to me.  Also maybe can add Blackwall to this but all I have seen from him was the 'I work to redeem people' options I have not seen (I think) either him being a Grey Warden or continuing to live the lie in the DLC and wonder if something changes, if it does great, if it dosen't...yey too.  Its a good story arc. 



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LightningPoodle

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What happens to Sera?

 

Edit: Wait, I thought there were 25 posts per page. Did I break BSN?

 

You are the 26th. The OP counts as post 1 of 25.



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Sera can get married to her Inky.   She also goes through some decent character development if the Inquisitor is elven.

 

I heard Cullen can become a smack head, goes full Samson. Not that I would ever do that to him. :P



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I heard Cullen can become a smack head, goes full Samson. Not that I would ever do that to him. :P

 

Well, sh*t. I want to see that now.


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I heard Cullen can become a smack head, goes full Samson. Not that I would ever do that to him. :P

 

He can, yeah.



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I would like to apologise if I did sound rude.


It doesn't really mather and compared to other people here in this thread you were really polite.But as we all know on the internet people tend to attack others for silly reasons just becouse they can.Nvm mate...just forget it.
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I don't like how having allied with the Qun brought nothing of worth in the course of the main game. But Bull turning against the Inquisitor feel coherent with the lore, so it doesn't bother me at all, quite the contrary.



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You never played Dragon Age Origin?

Zevran pls.


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Sera can get married to her Inky.   She also goes through some decent character development if the Inquisitor is elven.

I wouldn't really call that a gigantic consequence *shrug*

 

Meh hers might be stretching it a bit but the warmth and affection she shows the Inquisitor during her friendship scene in Tresspassers and the cold aloofness she shows otherwise was rather stark to me.

Well, didn't get any scene with Sera in Trespasser as I've never even gotten enough friendship with her for the roof scene (didn't even know it existed until recently) so I can't comment too much, but simply being your friend or not doesn't sound like a character arc.

 

You are the 26th. The OP counts as post 1 of 25.

Yeah, I know. But when I posted, I was on page 1. When I refreshed, I was on page 2.


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I heard Cullen can become a smack head, goes full Samson. Not that I would ever do that to him. :P

 

That's only if you're super douchey and make him stay on lyrium forever though :(

 

But yeah that ending breaks my heart.



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I don't like how having allied with the Qun brought nothing of worth in the course of the main game. But Bull turning against the Inquisitor feel coherent with the lore, so it doesn't bother me at all, quite the contrary.

 

It brought nothing of worth as far as we know. There is a letter in Trespasser that says the Qunari did not order the Qunari to attack the Inquisition, nor were they going to order it. It seems like the Qunari you fight in Trespasser are just feeling a little roguish. 



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Yeah, I know. But when I posted, I was on page 1. When I refreshed, I was on page 2.

 

That happens sometimes. I get that every now and then, particularly when a large number of posts happen whilst I'm writing mine.



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That's only if you're super douchey and make him stay on lyrium forever though :(
 
But yeah that ending breaks my heart.

Should i play the violin for you?

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You never played Dragon Age Origin?

Zevran pls.

Now that was annoying. "Ha ha!  I twirl my mustache now!"



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Should i play the violin for you?

 

Nah I don't need it because I don't complain about how I can't respect characters for actions that my choices lead to :P


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That's only if you're super douchey and make him stay on lyrium forever though :(

 

But yeah that ending breaks my heart.

 

I'd have Bull betray me a couple of times before I'd even consider a junkie Cullen playthrough. I'll only ever experience that on youtube tbh. :P

 

Also, I'm jelly that he got a mabari, I miss my barkspawn.


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He still the bae.

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I'd have Bull betray me a couple of times before I'd even consider a junkie Cullen playthrough. I'll only ever experience that on youtube tbh. :P

 

Also, I'm jelly that he got a mabari, I miss my barkspawn.

 

Yeah junkie Cullen is just...unnecessary? I think it's even avoided if you ask him to only take the Lyrium til Cory is defeated so eh. I've had a bull betray me (because I forgot to do his quest on my Solasmancer :lol: ) but it was perfectly fitting and I was "oooooh. Welp. I deserved that." (But the poor dear was in his starting gear and my team cut through him like swiss cheese. I'm so sorry bull :o Actually I think I got a game over because I killed myself by using immolate near the barrels XD)

 

He stole our dog! (seriously that T_T)


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    Ill get it straight for you smartass, Obviously he didnt know about the quest.

Whoa, dude. Calm down.

 

Forgot an emote there :P ruined the whole tihng ^^



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 I personally would like to commend the OP to have the courage to stick out his neck and give his opinion on the matter....although his avi scares me a little  :o

 

I frequent this forum not to post so much because unfortunately I find that the people here tend to jump your **** if you have a little bit of criticism to say.  Rarely do I see good healthy debate going on and that is so sad.  

 

With that said I too felt Bull's betray was a tad OOC.   If for anything he was right along side of me killing Qun warriors left and right before the supposed order was given.  If he was so loyal to the Qun why did he stay by the Inky's side until the final moment like that?  True it makes for really great SHOCK value in story telling and they did achieve that.  I personally was more upset and shocked at Bull's betrayal than I was the whole ending with Solas, because I knew something of that fact was coming.  

 

I also liked how the OP compared this with the Wrex loyalty issue and it was nice to be able to talk him down or have some dialogue to work through it one way or the other.  

With Bull you didn't even get one final cut scene... I really felt his character arc at least deserved that much.  I felt so numb after that and my party was like.... Ok.... :blink:  Iron Bull....always thought something was up with that guy... ok moving on!   :o

 

I just wish there could've been a little bit more to it.  


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You need very high approval with tbe bull and and to keep the charges alive, anything less then perfect he goes full on bull smash mode.

The Qun is all about brain washing its followers into various roles


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#48
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1. You let him stay loyal to the qun in which is job name means "liar".

 

2.You let him say loyal to the qun in which he told you he does everything they tell him to do.

 

3. You never though the qun would ever see you as an enemy and Bull, who you know does what ever the qun tell him to, would do is job being part of the qun?

 

 

Op, this is not hard to see coming. Just save the charger and have him stop being loyal to the Qun.



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Well everybody has a different view on things.Altho he was spy and liar i think a friend should count for something, at least in real life.As for his character...it fits his character but it still doesn't make right or good.Anyway i can't respect him anymore...i and solas..urgh.

Dude, you got him kill off his best friend qun.....You think he now won't do the with his next Best friend?



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I hate that you had to basically kiss his bum for him to stay loyal . I made the right call . An alliance with the freaking Qunari .(A lot of good that did us in the end.) 

The chargers were dead weight to me but family to him .


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