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[aisyla]

1.Well of sorrows

2.Divine

3.Divine's guard or Disband

 

I wonder what you guys think. I know there are probably many threads regarding this, but I just want to ask.

 

I usually try to make my inquisitor as atheist who believes in equality. Nonetheless they usually tend to end up somewhat faithful Andrastian. Because of some dialogue choices I made only for companion's approval. I guess I just can't help myself... 

 

Anyway, I mostly choose soft Leliana as divine and make my inquisitor drink the well of sorrows. And I *always* choose mage's side. It usually leaves me with doubts and sour taste, but I just can't stomach the Right of Annulment.

 

In my first Trespasser playthrough, I chose not to disband. I thought Solas was too great a threat to purse individually. He had agents all over the Thedas and himself as god-like power. It seemed Inquisitor will need every bit of resources he/she can manage. And with soft Leliana as Divine, inquisition could be a force of change without the bloodshed. I wanted to prove Solas there is always another way.

 

But after the epilogue, it just..I don't know, it got me thinking. I kinda want to hear your thoughts.

I didn't really expect all this emotions when I started Trespasser. I just wanted to see my sassy little cinnamon roll...and then I got all this feelings...*sighs*

 

 

 

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Sorry about all the babbling..English is, like, my third language. So, it's safe to say, I really don't know what I'm talking about. I just hope you got the jest of it however poorly I wrote.

[BansheeOwnage]

I wouldn't drink from the well. I don't think it's a good idea to have one of the only people (and leader of those people) who knows the extent of Solas' plans under control of anyone.

[Precursor Meta]

I'd still make the same choices. A faith driven inquisitor with Vivienne as divine. And after finishing Trespasser, they've just been emboldened.

[squirrely1]

I am finding it hard not to metagame all those decisions but honestly if you are truly getting into the role of the character (which is going to be hard to do now with what we know happens in the end) you can try to just make your decisions based on what your character would do.  

 

I hate to use a Witcher 3 analogy here but it works..... With my Geralt I had to construct a set of rules that he followed generally speaking and it helped me to make decisions based on what he would do in the confines of the rules I constructed for him. 

 

For Example:
He never kills Witchers no matter what....because there are too few of them and what gives him the right to be judge, jury and executioner for another Witcher?

He primarily kills monsters which can include people who are monsters as well. 

Some monsters that are sentient and can be reasoned with may be spared depends on their level of monstrosity.

He doesn't make deals with demons

He generally tries to stay neutral in politics as much as possible. 

 

I can cite the Witcher example so much easier than I can my set of rules for my Inky so that is why I chose to use that example. 

[Just My Moniker]

1. Drink dat mysterious elven goodness >.>

2. Make Vivienne divine and not as a friend, cuz that supposedly leaves the Chantry really unstable.

3. Disband that ****.

[rpgfan321]

I would still stick with the choices even though I know what will happen in Trespasser. The DLC doesn't take away the meaning one can make in the base game for me. Rather it adds to it.

[aisyla]

I am finding it hard not to metagame all those decisions but honestly if you are truly getting into the role of the character (which is going to be hard to do now with what we know happens in the end) you can try to just make your decisions based on what your character would do.  

 

I hate to use a Witcher 3 analogy here but it works..... With my Geralt I had to construct a set of rules that he followed generally speaking and it helped me to make decisions based on what he would do in the confines of the rules I constructed for him. 

 

For Example:
He never kills Witchers no matter what....because there are too few of them and what gives him the right to be judge, jury and executioner for another Witcher?

He primarily kills monsters which can include people who are monsters as well. 

Some monsters that are sentient and can be reasoned with may be spared depends on their level of monstrosity.

He doesn't make deals with demons

He generally tries to stay neutral in politics as much as possible. 

 

I can cite the Witcher example so much easier than I can my set of rules for my Inky so that is why I chose to use that example. 

Though, I didn't play TW3 but I get what you mean. It's just really hard not to metagame at this point.   What were your choices? 

 

 

 

I would still stick with the choices even though I know what will happen in Trespasser. The DLC doesn't take away the meaning one can make in the base game for me. Rather it adds to it.

Yeah..I'm just feeling restless about the choices I made. Which is why I love DA. *sighs* Can you tell me about your choices?

[Ashaantha]

Having all the content for DAi hasn't changed how I have Inquisitors making chocies. Sure I can meta-game thanks to having finished DAi around 16 times now so know all the endings, but each of my Inquisitors is a different character, with different goals (well generally, I have a few copies) so it's rather easy to make them all slightly different until reaching Trespasser where you essentially end up with only two endings, harder to make different characters stand out

 

my main inquisitor is good friends with her entire front lines party,

- Divine Cassandra as a really good friend

- drank from the Well since in DAI it has the tiniest changes to the game, likely might change if any other games are made but until then since it does next to nothing other then let one read the otherwise unreadable codex pages I'll keep majority of my Quizzies drinking it.

- Disbanded the Inquisition because of half of the organisation being spies for one eprson, or another or nobles or countries. no thanks, she needs to completely trust the people helping her now.

[rpgfan321]

Though, I didn't play TW3 but I get what you mean. It's just really hard not to metagame at this point.   What were your choices? 

My Dalish Inquisitor 1) Drank from the Well   2) Leliana as Divine, inspired    3) Disbanded the Inquisition

 

I picked my Dalish Inquisitor to drink from the Well because she was hungry for the potential knowledge she could learn and teach it to her people (She's a First). I tried to give her the personality that she is not a power hungry person, expect when it comes to elven knowledge, and she reluctantly became Herald of Andraste and the Inquisitor. She was all for disbanding the Inquisition and pushed for the Inquisition to remain independent of any sovereign power especially the Chantry. So, I didn't support any of the three Divine candidates, and let the Chantry (aka the game) choose the next Divine. To my happy surprise it was Leliana (I like surprises in my games ).

 

I would pick the same choices for this Inquisitor even though I know drinking from the Well is the only way to avoid fighting the Fen'Harel spirits because it just what I built up my Dalish Inquisitor to do. The choices I made just fits with the toon I played.

 

Besides I have a completely different Inquisitor who is the opposite of my Dalish Inquisitor

[Big I]

The Well

There's too little evidence one way or the other as to whether it's best if the Inquisitor or Morrigan drinks. Obviously whoever drank is under a geas to obey Flemeth, but does that pass on to Solas? We don't even know for sure what Solas did apart from get a power up. Based on information datamined from Inquisition Flemeth's plan was to pass her power and divinity onto Morrigan. Whether drinking from the Well would help with that, or if Bioware is even going to continue that plot, is unknown.

 

Divine choice

Trespasser essentially made this choice largely irrelevant. Not matter who's Divine Victoria or whether you chose to ally or conscript the mages or Templars, there's always a reformed Circle and an independent College of Enchanters. The only difference is Leliana opening the priesthood to men and women of all races and reinstating the Canticle of Shartan. If Leliana is Inspired she continues her reforms depsite organised resistance and assassinations attempts; if she's steeled she destroys the opposition.

 

The Inquisition

I spent the whole damn game building up the Inquisition. No way in hell am I ever disbanding it; there's still too much work to do.

[Darkly Tranquil]

1. I'm not drinking that. I don't know what's in it. All yours, Morrigan.
2. Cassandra, because Leliana is an unrealistic idealist and Vivienne is a megalomaniac.
3. Disband. The Inquisition did it's job and its better to disperse its power than let it potentially be misused in future.

[BraveVesperia]

It didn't change my opinion about the Well. Most of my Inquisitors didn't drink from the Well, because they were worried about the consequences. Even the elves, since Abelas teased that the ancient elves weren't what Lavellan thought they were.

 

I haven't seen Divine Leliana in Trespasser yet, but so far the dlc confirms my opinion that Cass is the best Divine. She's progressive, has the respect of the general populace. My Inquisitors are more likely to keep the Inquisition if she's in charge. Divine Vivienne is worse than I'd hoped (Cass even quits in disgust...), so more of my Inquisitors will disband if she's Divine.

 

I usually make the disband/continue choice on a playthrough-by-playthrough basis. Not sure what I think of the choice myself.

 

And I *always* choose mage's side. It usually leaves me with doubts and sour taste, but I just can't stomach the Right of Annulment.

Siding with the templars in DAI doesn't actually involve the Rite of Annulment (unlike DAO and DA2). You just save them from the Envy demon and then decide whether to keep the templar order or disband them.

[Elista]

I have doubts too..

I sided with Briala and let Celene die, but after disbanding the Inquisition I fear what may happen to her. Even if Leliana as Divine can support her. But should I have hardened Leli, then, to be able to deal with opposition in a more effective way ?

I drank from the Well and I'm not sure that was a good idea. Mythal doesn't seem very wise, she is obsessed with vengeance. Would it be better or not for Morrigan to keep this knowledge ? But now that Inq has lost the Anchor, having the memories of the Well could be useful against Solas and we certainly need knowledge against him...

Should I have let the Chargers die ? Maybe the Qunari will help us against Solas if we had an alliance. Even if it is to betray us as soon as possible after the victory.

About disbanding, I think it will be equivalent. We will have slow progress but no bad surprise, otherwise we would have fast progress but problems in the long term, so everybody will be at the same level of preparation when Solas strikes.

I know that choices won't have a great impact but I like to think about it too^^.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Neither of my Inquisitors drank from the well, including my Dalish one. The Temple of Mythal broke her faith, and she wasn't going to be the puppet of any unknown force, even if that force used to be elvhen. Seeing how Morrigan was controlled by Flemeth only further convinced her she'd done the right thing. If she'd still believed at the time she reached the Well that the Creators were deities worthy of respect...it might have been different.

 

I'll be curious to see if Solas taking Mythal's powers now means that Inquisitors who drank from the well are now bound to Fen'Harel.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

It was easyenough for the tow charcters I had, first one wanted to steal Corys attemt to becmoe a god, so obivously Gods beeing simply beeings with a shiton of magical powers = drink from well have one more power xD(Now when I think about it it was actualy stupid, Cory never wanted to drink from well himself, must have beena reason for that), but then at the time it seemed like everyone wanted to drink from well so it looked to me like on  more step towards godhood xD

 

The other one was an elf thiniking that what he does is presering the knowledge of his ancestors.

 

Really I think its down to what you or your character feels like. Isnt that the point of this game ? Its like a soap opera where you get to do the choices for actors xD

[Poledo]

I have a hardened Leliana, we're going to need that for the future. I committed the Inquistion to the Chantry under Leliana, she and Josie will help me root out all the spies while we turn our sites towards Solas. I had Morrigan drink from the well, there were too many unknowns and it wasn't worth the risk.

 

I also have other games though, with complete different choices

[Wahed89]

It's funny because I was completely set on my latest inquisitor to drink from the well herself, as a Solas romanced dalish rogue. Then when it came down to it, I felt almost compelled to let Morrigan drink from the well, her argument for herself to drink and the arguments against drinking yourself are too strong. One thing that swayed me was that I forgot Cory doesn't ever intend to use it himself, but have a vessel do so on his behalf. I felt that if even he wouldn't drink it I probably shouldn't either.

[Dabrikishaw]

I have a total of 16 Inquisitors so far.

 

My non elf Inquisitors let Morrigan drink from the well, while I leave my elf Inquisitors to drink it.

 

Who the divine is doesn't matter anymore unless you want Leliana opening the priesthood to men and women of all races and reinstating the Canticle of Shartan.

 

Faithful Inquisitors will shrink the Inquisition into the Divine's Honor Guard. Non-faithful will disband.

[Gervaise]

I make the decisions on how I play each different character regardless of their race or religious leanings.   Initially I found it difficult to let any of my characters drink from the Well because the people accompanying them on the mission, Solas, Dorian, Cassandra, seemed to think it a really bad idea.   Even my elf characters tended to be swayed by the fact that Solas didn't want to drink himself.   Then after discovering he dumps my elf girl mage and finding Morrigan going on and on about how wonderful all that knowledge was, I went back and let her drink, on the basis that as an apprentice Keeper she would have had it driven into her to take her chance with such things.   Then Solas got all upset because apparently he had begged me not to drink.   No you didn't, Solas.  Given what has subsequently been revealed I felt as sort of perverse pleasure that I had gone against him on that one.

 

On the whole I just make the various decision in the game that apparently influence Divine and then just see how it pans out.    However, when I hadn't done the required action to stop Leliana becoming a ruthless killer, I did deliberately vote for Cassandra because there was no way I wanted Leliana as Divine.   I did also get Vivienne as Divine on one run, which came as something of a surprise - I do think that no matter how good her connections at the Court, the idea the clerics would vote for a mage as Divine is frankly ludicrous.

 

On the whole I would agree that believers in the Maker would not disband and non-believers probably would.     I suppose there is also that element of wanting to save Solas from himself to consider.   If you did, then keeping the organisation going might ensure that he did get to hear what you were doing and thus whatever it is that it is going to take to change his mind (I'm still scratching my head over that one).    

 

My main Inquistior is an elf assassin, formerly archer but going to have to retrain in knife work.    He didn't drink from the Well (he's no fool and in any case swayed by the opinion of his lover Dorian), managed to engineer getting Leliana as Divine (conscripted Templars, put Briala on throne, kept Grey Wardens) but despite the possible implications for Briala, disbanded the Inquisition (even Leliana wanted him to) and has vowed to hunt down and stop Solas by any means possible, so the last thing he wanted was the possibility of leaks to the enemy.   He also never believe any of that nonsense about being the Herald and so rather glad to stop the pretence, particularly since losing the mark in such dramatic fashion was likely to undermine his credibility as the Maker's chosen.    He always thought the human rulers would turn on him eventually; he's just surprised it took them this long.   (I took the aggressive disband dialogue which gave me a deal of satisfaction).

[Daerog]

The only option that I'm currently doubting for my canon Inquisitor is the disband or Chantry guard option. Initially, I was thinking disband would be best and I really liked the ending... but recently I've been wondering if my Inquisitor would rather keep the Inquisition under the Chantry, even if he is distancing himself from it in order to run a secret war to stop Solas.

 

In my canon, I have Morrigan drink, she wants it and my Inquisitor already messed with ancient elven magic when he got the Mark, and he is good friends with Divine Victoria, previously known as First Enchanter Vivienne. Even as a mage, he has a good relationship with the Templars, and their new commander, Ser Barris. The only thing I really rolled my eyes at in the epilogue's epilogue was Vivienne allowing the College to be built... makes sense for continuity, but still...

 

I think it is important to note that you can't turn Thedas into a paradise. The world won't let you. Just do what fits your character and embrace the consequences... or alter your character a bit to embrace the consequences you want... In other words, have the character be the foundation for the choices, and the story will be more satisfying. Making choices that don't fit the character makes it more like a game or multiple choice test rather than a story.

[Cha0sEff3ct]

I was all for Vivienne as Divine but the fact that an opposing college of Mages starts up regardless annoys me. I wanted her to quell the unrest with the Mages with a more improved circle in which they're a lot less confined but at least overseeing them less they turn to something harmful. I figure she'd make it similar to Tevinter but no blood magic.

 

I'm liking Leliana more as Divine with Cassandra assisting and that she's still kind of your spymaster.  However, with Leliana as Divine I can't get Vivy into that ridiculous gold divine battle armor which I adore.

 

Also as far as the Well of Sorrows, if we lose the Inky as a protagonist next game what is the point? Depending on who drank they'll probably do some sub-par side quest in the next installment and Morrigan or the Inky comes back to relay some advice from the Well of Sorrows and that's the last you see of the Inky at least. Kinda like sacrificing Alistair, Loghain or Stroud.

[nightscrawl]

I would still stick with the choices even though I know what will happen in Trespasser. The DLC doesn't take away the meaning one can make in the base game for me. Rather it adds to it.

 

I completely agree.

[ZhengAn]

I always think Mythal is the final big bad boss of dragon age, so though it is tempting for my elfy inquisitor to absorb all that lost elven knowledge, I simply let Morrigan to have it.

And mythal's vengeance make me unconformable.

That little benefit we got in trespasser from drinking the well? I think is the devs trying to mislead us to think inky drinking well is a better choice with short term benefits. I expect something bad to happen for those who drank in DA4.

I'm always torn between leliana and cassandra. I'm very impressed when cassandra want to record down inky's story for future historical reference, also when she told me about all her ideals and faith. I respect Cassandra, and I like her character more than leliana.

But I suppose being the divine also needs to deal with all those complicated political 'games' and situation, which Cassandra dislike and incapable of. Also as my mage inquisitor is very eager to free the mage, so I chose leliana.

I also disband inquisition, because my inquisitor has never wanted to be the inquisitor from the start. She would rather just stayed in the woods with her clan and live a simple life. I'm unconformable with the idea that there might be a bunch of spies, if qunari and solas have spies in inquisition, I'm sure those ferelden and orlesian nobles would have too.

[leaguer of one]

1. Drink dat mysterious elven goodness >.>

2. Make Vivienne divine and not as a friend, cuz that supposedly leaves the Chantry really unstable.

3. Disband that ****.

Evil.....Some just want the world to burn.

[Just My Moniker]

Evil.....Some just want the world to burn.