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[Erstus]

One of my favorite aspects and bits of Mass Effect lore are the corporations, companies, and Mercenary groups.

Do you think we will see familiar organizations like Binary Helix or Exogeni investing in expeditions into Andromeda? Or perhaps new corps.

I hope so. It seems logical seeing that these groups colonize areas outside of Alliance and Council law for their experiments and studies.

[JeffZero]

This is actually one of relatively few things I feel pretty certain will make its way into the game. And rightfully so -- the Helios Cluster is just waiting to be exploited.

[Mathias]

I really have no idea. I guess it would depend just on how developed the natives are of Andromeda. Does there exist a united galactic community like in the Milky Way? Who knows at this point.

[Ahriman]

Mercs and companies from Milky Way? Doubtfully, I don't think that ARKON is open for private investors and will rely on merc military.

[Zatche]

Well, I would hope there is number of different and opposing factions in Andromeda. It generally makes for a more interesting game world and often provides engaging roleplaying opportunities.

And it has been something I've been wondering about. Will factions be organizations from the Milky Way? Or perhaps, by the time the game starts, we've been in Andromeda long enough that groups have already started to form. Or is everybody toeing the ARK/govt line or whatever forcing Bioware to provide roleplaying decisions another way?

[Mdizzletr0n]

I'm sure there will be "spiritual successors." All I want is for those groups to be fleshed out more as opposed to "they're shooting at you, shoot back. No questions."

[Gabey5]

Mercs will appear of course, we need our hordes of generic baddies to gun down, we will also need the evil corp. doing evil cliche filled.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Weyland-Yutani: Building better worlds.

 

[dgcatanisiri]

I would figure some organizations would make their way into any kind of long-term endeavor like colonizing another galaxy - Sirta Foundation seems to be a leader in medical technology, and we have several organizations dedicated to weaponry for Citadel races who would probably have sent top of the line schematics to be worked on and improved.

 

If it's an endeavor they could see profit in, the corporations would jump at it. Rule of Acquisition Number 9: Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.

[Sartoz]

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We are the new threat in Andromeda, from the Khet perspective.

Also, we have no established and developed Home world in Andromeda: just colonies trying to set roots and survive. So, no, there are no corporations, companies or human Merc groups, unless we have been in Andromeda for a while. It all depends  in what time period the game starts.

 

Did we just arrive? Have we been in Andromeda for a decade? 50  years? a century?.. Think of the history of the early settlers in the New World.

[Ahglock]

Maybe the Ark was funded by a collective of corporations and you are all indentured servants of X corp...

[Addictress]

Me too. Oh hells yes.

[Shermos]

One of my favorite aspects and bits of Mass Effect lore are the corporations, companies, and Mercenary groups.

Do you think we will see familiar organizations like Binary Helix or Exogeni investing in expeditions into Andromeda? Or perhaps new corps.

I hope so. It seems logical seeing that these groups colonize areas outside of Alliance and Council law for their experiments and studies.

 

 

It's one of my least favourite parts. Any civilisation capable of travel between the stars should have dealt with the problem of scarcity. Money shouldn't be necessary anymore, at least not for the most developed civs in the galaxy. Capitalism should have become obsolete. 

 

Science fiction has an unfortunate tendency to let the assumptions of our present era carry over into the future.  

[PlatonicWaffles]

Oh I really hope so. One of my favourite things about the Trilogy were the corporations and companies seamlessly integrated into the background of the universe and presented to you as the player without rubbing them into your faces (as far as I recall, it's been a while since I replayed the trilogy.)

[LinksOcarina]

Mercs and companies from Milky Way? Doubtfully, I don't think that ARKON is open for private investors and will rely on merc military.

 

I wouldn't be so sure...

 

I think of it like this, a lot of major corporations would likely have a piece of the project, if it is one designed for finding life and new resources. So they would probably be principal fianceers, along with governments and the Citadel of course.

And I have a feeling private military contractors will be employed by some of them at the same time. Extra security is extra security of course.

[LinksOcarina]

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We are the new threat in Andromeda, from the Khet perspective.

Also, we have no established and developed Home world in Andromeda: just colonies trying to set roots and survive. So, no, there are no corporations, companies or human Merc groups, unless we have been in Andromeda for a while. It all depends  in what time period the game starts.

 

Did we just arrive? Have we been in Andromeda for a decade? 50  years? a century?.. Think of the history of the early settlers in the New World.

 

Thats the thing, the history of the new world was ALL about contracts and land grabs. Governments hired private militaries to finance, protect, trade and plunder rivals, and this was 50 years in.

 

Guys like Hernando Cortes would be a prime example, he was a conquistador for a reason, he was a Merc for hire, working for the Spanish crowns interests, so the Spanish can set up businesses in South America and Mexico to mine silver. It is actually more likely than people think, depending on the situation we are presented. 

[Ahglock]

It's one of my least favourite parts. Any civilisation capable of travel between the stars should have dealt with the problem of scarcity. Money shouldn't be necessary anymore, at least not for the most developed civs in the galaxy. Capitalism should have become obsolete.

Science fiction has an unfortunate tendency to let the assumptions of our present era carry over into the future.

And your assumptions are more valid?

[Laughing_Man]

It's one of my least favourite parts. Any civilisation capable of travel between the stars should have dealt with the problem of scarcity. Money shouldn't be necessary anymore, at least not for the most developed civs in the galaxy. Capitalism should have become obsolete. 

 

Science fiction has an unfortunate tendency to let the assumptions of our present era carry over into the future.  

 

There are always better things, better technology, nicer housing, faster hovercars, etc.

 

Money means more access to those things, even if the basics are somehow provided free.

[Ahglock]

There are always better things, better technology, nicer housing, faster hovercars, etc.

Money means more access to those things, even if the basics are somehow provided free.

He is rolling on the assumption of infinite resources. So you want the newest car well they can make infinity of them so why does it cost anything. Infinite supply meets limited demand.

3D printers on steroids and virtually bottomless power and materials.

And yeah if we ever hit that point money, corporations etc will be changed or dissolved. Whether many sci-fi worlds make that core assumption or if that core assumption is actually the most likely future is different. But we could move to a different model like maybe intellectual property or the car design is licensed for set periods and not bought so you continually have to buy new licenses so your 3D printer will make that new whatever.

[Sartoz]

It's one of my least favourite parts. Any civilisation capable of travel between the stars should have dealt with the problem of scarcity. Money shouldn't be necessary anymore, at least not for the most developed civs in the galaxy. Capitalism should have become obsolete. 

 

Science fiction has an unfortunate tendency to let the assumptions of our present era carry over into the future.  

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There will never be an Utopia with the imperfections of man.

[Donk]

One of my favorite aspects and bits of Mass Effect lore are the corporations, companies, and Mercenary groups.

Do you think we will see familiar organizations like Binary Helix or Exogeni investing in expeditions into Andromeda? Or perhaps new corps.

I hope so. It seems logical seeing that these groups colonize areas outside of Alliance and Council law for their experiments and studies.

I don't doubt it. I hope we start out as a mercenary for one of these groups tbh. Although, different to Cerberus which is funded by a richtit with infinite credits. I wanna be part of a small band that is struggling to survive.

[mickey111]

I'm sure there will be "spiritual successors." All I want is for those groups to be fleshed out more as opposed to "they're shooting at you, shoot back. No questions."

 

every game needs cannon fodder, and nobody wants to acknowledge corporations as people (unless they're evil bad people of course, because 'merica). 

[Shermos]

He is rolling on the assumption of infinite resources. So you want the newest car well they can make infinity of them so why does it cost anything. Infinite supply meets limited demand.

3D printers on steroids and virtually bottomless power and materials.

And yeah if we ever hit that point money, corporations etc will be changed or dissolved. Whether many sci-fi worlds make that core assumption or if that core assumption is actually the most likely future is different. But we could move to a different model like maybe intellectual property or the car design is licensed for set periods and not bought so you continually have to buy new licenses so your 3D printer will make that new whatever.

 

That is a completely artificial reason to continue using money, and effectively maintain the status quo. People accept the need for money in a world with limited resources, but a significant number won't accept its existence for a contrived justification. Consider the internet and piracy. We have the means to easily create effectively infinite copies of anything which exists in a digital form. Many people choose not to pay for digital goods, even when the option exists, or they could afford it. No attempt at enforcement has succeeded.

 

Yes, I'm making an assumption, but it's an assumption based on evidence. On the other hand, assuming something which is core to our society in the present period will remain so in the future is lazy and a fallacy. History is the process of change. That includes social, as well as technological change. One of sci-fi's biggest problems is focusing on the technological, and largely ignoring the social.     

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Corporations will be involved. Definitely - considering that it took corporations to get the contracts to build the thing. Corporations will be involved in maintaining the ark. Corporations will be involved when it gets Andromeda researching the different worlds and their life forms. What else to do you expect to do this? Governments? What governments?

 

Picture "Alpha Centauri" on a galactic cluster scale.

[Ahglock]

That is a completely artificial reason to continue using money, and effectively maintain the status quo. People accept the need for money in a world with limited resources, but a significant number won't accept its existence for a contrived justification. Consider the internet and piracy. We have the means to easily create effectively infinite copies of anything which exists in a digital form. Many people choose not to pay for digital goods, even when the option exists, or they could afford it. No attempt at enforcement has succeeded.

Yes, I'm making an assumption, but it's an assumption based on evidence. On the other hand, assuming something which is core to our society in the present period will remain so in the future is lazy and a fallacy. History is the process of change. That includes social, as well as technological change. One of sci-fi's biggest problems is focusing on the technological, and largely ignoring the social.

I pay for music, video games etc. many people view it as theft not to. There is no physical product here.

Why exactly did Bob bust his ass to build that new car design? Oh wait society changed and people are just awesome like that.

Almost every sci-fi world has large societal changes compared to ours. Just not the one you want apparently. I think Star Trek does that for the most part since TNG.