oke so i go all along about how Elves are suppose to be saved.
even agree if the world need to be remade then bam the game sudden can't deal with it.
and gives me only 2 options ether sudden chance my mind of "redeem" or "kill" solas.
why was their no option of "Help" or becoming a solas agent?.
after all any true elf will have helped solas.
it's rater limited and becoming boring in DA:I it's chantry this chantry that blah blah blah.
Cause if your friends he knows he is doing a shitty thing so he won't let his friend join on the band wagon. If he hates your guts its obvious why he won't let you. Seriously why is this a question no offense.
Oh and my Qunari disliked the chantry and disbanded the inquisition rather bowing to the chantry/divine even though its leliana in charge/ I recall must of the time you can trash on the chantry when asked your opinion on it. I even founded the inquisition on doing whats right instead of faith or power etc.
Female elf who romanced him can ask to join him. He says he can't let her see what he must become in order for his plan to succeed.
Helping a Woobie "destroy" the world? That sounds too edgy to pull off successfully.
(lol @ "true elf," reminds me of the "true scotsman" fallacy. Not all ancient elves agree with Solas, and he killed the last one who started to stray from his quest.)
Helping a Woobie "destroy" the world? That sounds too edgy to pull off successfully.
(lol @ "true elf," reminds me of the "true scotsman" fallacy. Not all ancient elves agree with Solas, and he killed the last one who started to stray from his quest.)
that's why he need the help of the Inquisitor to succeeded.
also the idea of helping solas fulfilling his plan ain't so crazy as it sounds.
guess true RPG chooses are so 1995, today's computer games we only makes goodie two shoe story's.
Cause then the direction of the story would be pointless.
Because if he succeeds, you and your entire race will die.
You don't have the option for the same reason every other game doesn't give you the option to join an antagonist when the antagonists plan will kill you and everyone you have ever known.
The "become a villain" option only really works if you gain something from it. In this case, you would simply die.
(And even though some elves may be OK with that, it would also be kinda difficult from a sequel prospective... Would be cool though...)
Agree with OP, my dalish would have become his agent.
Sadly the ending in regards Solas choice as well as the choice of what to do with inquisition is massively limited and set up to favour only a certain flavour of inquisitor rather than the wider roleplaying options the main game supported.
Agree with OP, my dalish would have become his agent.
Sadly the ending in regards Solas choice as well as the choice of what to do with inquisition is massively limited and set up to favour only a certain flavour of inquisitor rather than the wider roleplaying options the main game supported.
The thing about DA games is that it is going to be a long running series, stories focusing on different characters, scenarios and settings. There is a structure.. which can only work if the *destination* is linear. Your choices only matter in the *how*, but not the *what*. It all fits together like a puzzle, so the writers have no choice but to limit players' choice when it comes to major events.
For instance, let's look at Origins. It is renowned as the game that offers players so much variety.. and yet, the end result is the same regardless of what happens to the Warden and what he/she does during -- you slay the archdemon and stop the blight.
A lot of people are complaining about the loss of the Inquisitor's hand, for instance.. to me it's fitting, and while you don't have a choice, at least they have addressed and shone a light on how the story concludes. Basically what it does is tell the player that the Inquisitor won't be a major force in the future -- but perhaps doing a little "behind the scenes" work, as they are now disabled.
Cause then the direction of the story would be pointless.
^This. You just stop one guy from doing it and now you want to help someone else do it?
^This. You just stop one guy from doing it and now you want to help someone else do it?
Love the avy mate! 
Female elf who romanced him can ask to join him. He says he can't let her see what he must become in order for his plan to succeed.
It really doesn't make any sense for even the elves to help Solas, because really, who in their right mind would want to kill the vast majority of people on the planet just to help yourself in some way (assuming you even managed to live through it yourself) ? It's quite a high level of evil there, certainly no Inquisitor would ever do something so horrible, I would hope that very, very few of the elves who are helping Solas actually know all the details of his plan.
The thing about DA games is that it is going to be a long running series, stories focusing on different characters, scenarios and settings. There is a structure.. which can only work if the *destination* is linear. Your choices only matter in the *how*, but not the *what*. It all fits together like a puzzle, so the writers have no choice but to limit players' choice when it comes to major events.
For instance, let's look at Origins. It is renowned as the game that offers players so much variety.. and yet, the end result is the same regardless of what happens to the Warden and what he/she does during -- you slay the archdemon and stop the blight.
A lot of people are complaining about the loss of the Inquisitor's hand, for instance.. to me it's fitting, and while you don't have a choice, at least they have addressed and shone a light on how the story concludes. Basically what it does is tell the player that the Inquisitor won't be a major force in the future -- but perhaps doing a little "behind the scenes" work, as they are now disabled.
I don't take issue with the loss of the physical loss of the inquisitor's hand either. Losing an arm as a long-term consequence of the plot necessity to get the mark isn't an issue imo. In the game the inquisitor has to stop Corypheus like the warden had to stop the blight. I don't see why this should be extended to him/her forced into taking a particular side of the next conflict especially one that could be of special importance for a dalish inquisitor. It definitely shouldn't extend to forcing the inquisitor into 2 narrow trains of thought(happy retirement or religious duty). There should have at the very least been more choices at that point.
It really doesn't make any sense for even the elves to help Solas, because really, who in their right mind would want to kill the vast majority of people on the planet just to help yourself in some way (assuming you even managed to live through it yourself) ? It's quite a high level of evil there, certainly no Inquisitor would ever do something so horrible, I would hope that very, very few of the elves who are helping Solas actually know all the details of his plan.
consider the mass extermination of elven race, why would the Inquisitor do that? it makes perfect sense and my Inquisitor will absolutely will have joined if that option existed.
Also we humans exterminated enough human species trough the ages fine example are the Indians or Inca race.
What will he become exactly? Do we have some hints?
A dark, ugly, snarling wolf with multiple eyes perhaps? Maybe he wants to kill everyone in the real world to turn them into spirits. He will then feast on their spiritual energy so he can remake the world for the elves that he saved. He will then guard his new world and "take" anyone who shows to be a problem within his new utopia.
Just a guess.
oke so i go all along about how Elves are suppose to be saved.
even agree if the world need to be remade then bam the game sudden can't deal with it.
and gives me only 2 options ether sudden chance my mind of "redeem" or "kill" solas.
why was their no option of "Help" or becoming a solas agent?.
after all any true elf will have helped solas.
it's rater limited and becoming boring in DA:I it's chantry this chantry that blah blah blah.
See, this is wrong.
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Female elf who romanced him can ask to join him. He says he can't let her see what he must become in order for his plan to succeed.
Actually any elf can ask to join, not just a romanced one. A low approval to a high approval male or female elf can ask him. It's an elf thing. He still refuses because he knows you won't kill your loved ones for his cause.
that's why he need the help of the Inquisitor to succeeded.
also the idea of helping solas fulfilling his plan ain't so crazy as it sounds.
guess true RPG chooses are so 1995, today's computer games we only makes goodie two shoe story's.
You mean you want to commit suicide, and genocide all at once. He states you are going to die even if you are an Elf.
oke so i go all along about how Elves are suppose to be saved.
even agree if the world need to be remade then bam the game sudden can't deal with it.
and gives me only 2 options ether sudden chance my mind of "redeem" or "kill" solas.
why was their no option of "Help" or becoming a solas agent?.
after all any true elf will have helped solas.
it's rater limited and becoming boring in DA:I it's chantry this chantry that blah blah blah.
That is only ancient elves are suppose to live. I have no idea what he must become but it doesn't sound pretty.
Helping him would essentially be suicide. So, no, joining him is not an option.
City elves suffer because they're elves. Dalish see themselves as the only true elves, and CE aren't even elves. Solas doesn't even consider either group as people, much less elves. And Abelas sees them as caricatures.
Elves have some serious identity issues.
You mean you want to commit suicide, and genocide all at once. He states you are going to die even if you are an Elf.
the Inquisitor will die anyway to many enemy's and chantry joining Solas will have been a first strike and a ultimate victory.
for not only the Elven inquisitor but for the whole elven race.
I not really see why people have so hard time understanding a simple analogue.
Why can't your Inquisitor join Solas and destroy the world, potentially committing genocide? Well...I'm pretty sure if this isn't your Inquisitor's response to Solas' plan then your logic is about as flawed as Fen'Harel's:
You mean you want to commit suicide, and genocide all at once. He states you are going to die even if you are an Elf.
Really? Well that's pretty dumb. The game implies that he's saving the elves of Thedas with his plan, if you play as a non-elf. Which means you only get the full story if you play an elf. Lame. So basically, he's only saving ancient elves like Abelas, and... spirits? What a dumb plan.
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