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[Treacherous J Slither]

Because if you are carrying around a vial of blood in Thedas you are either a templar using a phylactary to track an apostate or a blood mage so naturally storing blood is a risk few would choose to take if any.

Lol! Are people randomly searched in the lands of Thedas? Does stop and frisk exist there too? Random home searches as well?

I think carrying and storing blood wouldn't be an issue at all.

In the unlikely event that someone of authority gets suspicious of some nobody going about his business being a nobody, then this nobody can just pull an Idunna and simply Jedi mind trick them into dropping the issue.

Being an apostate seems so easy.

[Ashagar]

Until the seekers who are immune to blood magic comes looking, Though glass much less quality glass that can be enchanted can't be cheap, there's a entire house in Orlais that makes it wealth off making high quality glass and they pointedly consider glass makers so valuable they aren't even allowed free freedom of movement.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Until the seekers who are immune to blood magic comes looking, Though glass much less quality glass that can be enchanted can't be cheap, there's a entire house in Orlais that makes it wealth off making high quality glass and they pointedly consider glass makers so valuable they aren't even allowed free freedom of movement.

What reason would the Seekers have to chase down some nobody who's not doing anything out of the ordinary?

Any mage that carries around lyrium potions can refill the used vials with blood. Yay! Recycling!

[Jesse the dragon slayer]

Lol! Are people randomly searched in the lands of Thedas? Does stop and frisk exist there too? Random home searches as well?

I think carrying and storing blood wouldn't be an issue at all.

In the unlikely event that someone of authority gets suspicious of some nobody going about his business being a nobody, then this nobody can just pull an Idunna and simply Jedi mind trick them into dropping the issue.

Being an apostate seems so easy.

Fair point and now that I think about it most apostates wear mage robes rather than commoner clothes most templars and apostates must be dumb

[In Exile]

We've already seen blood magic and it's abuse portrayed excellently in other media: the Purple Man in Jessica Jones. There's your blood magic run amok example. 

[Treacherous J Slither]

We've already seen blood magic and it's abuse portrayed excellently in other media: the Purple Man in Jessica Jones. There's your blood magic run amok example.

And on the positive side we have Charles Xavier.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Actually I think blood magic is potentially much worse than anything Killgrave can do because blaring music in your headphones won't protect you from becoming a slave.

Great show though. Can't wait to see more. Daredevil, Iron Fist, Blue Marvel etc. I really like how they snuck the superpower thing up on you. Everything is thumping along pretty normally and then out of nowhere she's lifting a car lol.

[Catilina]

Magic is just magic

[Illegitimus]

And on the positive side we have Charles Xavier.

 

Yeah.  "Positive".  Y'wanna list of all the times Charles Xavier went a bit or a lot insane and abused his powers?  

[Treacherous J Slither]

Yeah.  "Positive".  Y'wanna list of all the times Charles Xavier went a bit or a lot insane and abused his powers?

Okay you got me there.

How about the reformed Emma Frost then?

[In Exile]

Okay you got me there.

How about the reformed Emma Frost then?

 

Wasn't the "reformed" Emma Frost the one that basically took sexually advantage of her grieving patient?

[Treacherous J Slither]

Wasn't the "reformed" Emma Frost the one that basically took sexually advantage of her grieving patient?

Oh ffs gimme a break here lol!

Seriously though I haven't heard anything about that. I have no idea what's going on in comics right now.

[Auintus]

Hey, question.

How does blood magic work exactly? Cole describes what I assume is blood magic as "pull(ing) the Fade with blood and pain and ancient, lying whispers". But Solas says that blood magic distances users from the Fade, makes it harder to enter. Further, in the Last Flight novel, blood magic is mentioned to be notable in that it does not touch the Fade. But, if it has these distancing effects, why does it make users susceptible to possession? Unless, of course, the increased susceptibility is merely the result of the pain surrounding blood magic drawing demons.

Supplemental materials point out that the more painful a sacrifice, the greater power of the spell. So obviously, the pain has some effect on the spells. Cole's mentioning pain further supports that theory. But that still doesn't explain how pain and mana differ.

[Illegitimus]

Cole and Solas's statements are compatible enough with each other.  If nothing else it would be harder to enter the Fade after using a bunch of blood magic because you'd be much more likely to encounter the "wrong" kind of spirits on the other side.  

[Auintus]

Sure, not mutually incompatible, but Isseya(Last Flight) states that she can recognize blood magic specifically because it does not touch the Fade.

Also, it's never stated, but Solas seems more concerned about entering the Fade at all, not so much about the spirits he'll meet.

[Illegitimus]

Wasn't the "reformed" Emma Frost the one that basically took sexually advantage of her grieving patient?

 

Noooot that I can find.  

 

Sure, not mutually incompatible, but Isseya(Last Flight) states that she can recognize blood magic specifically because it does not touch the Fade.

Also, it's never stated, but Solas seems more concerned about entering the Fade at all, not so much about the spirits he'll meet.

 

Does not touch the Fade that Isseya can perceive.  I think it's not unreasonable to think that it interacts with the Fade in a very different way (and one that ignores or distorts the Veil).  

[Auintus]

Does not touch the Fade that Isseya can perceive.  I think it's not unreasonable to think that it interacts with the Fade in a very different way (and one that ignores or distorts the Veil).  

 

In Kirkwall, apparently some magisters were using large amounts of blood magic to deliberately weaken the Veil, so ignoring the Veil is right out. Though perhaps it's standard use ignores the Veil and the magisters were specifically trying to affect it.

I considered the idea that it may manipulate echoes of earlier magic, as Solas mentioned, but if blood magic existed before the construction of the Veil, that makes less sense.

I still want to know how it differs from mana.

Near the beginning of Asunder, the mage is described as drawing mana from his blood, after having his draw of Fade mana disrupted. This would indicate that it is not so different mechanically, just another step in the same process, something that other sources disagree with.

And that brings up templars and lyrium and dwarves in relation to it. Use of lyrium could simply be blood magic, but that hardly explains its effects on templars and dwarves. NOTE: I've yet to play through The Descent, but I do know the source of lyrium.

[In Exile]

Oh ffs gimme a break here lol!

Seriously though I haven't heard anything about that. I have no idea what's going on in comics right now.

 

There was some early 2000s plot when she was supposed to be telepathically counselling Cyclops, but then had psychic sex with him and Jean Grey caught them. But she got to the psychic sex part because Cyclops was apparently so screwed up by whatever trauma led him to the counselling in the first place, hence the taking advantage part.

[Asdrubael Vect]

What makes elves so special? They're magical all of a sudden? They should have the weakest blood of the races with kossith having the strongest. Dragon blood should be the best you can get. Could just breed dragons and use their blood to power very potent spells. That's gotta be easier and far more productive than using people.

They are the most powerfull race with natural connection to magic and who are now tranquiled cos the veil, they are lived for thousand years and can reshape world as they wan, they create all what Thedas have, Thedas only losrt many knoledges what they have...their blood is special cos of special magic energy what noone(even with crossbreeding) could have and eluvians and other stuff react on their blood-energy only

 

Ancient Tevinters wanted to become as powerfull as elves was but failed, while stealing knoledges, artifacts and breeading with elves as sacrifices  to deamons and old gods with elven blood they cant hold powers what elven blood holded...they have some magic and connection with fade(what now all humans have as some kossith) as some became dreamers but they still not and never have as much as elves have and not became as they wanted and with each child they lost those powers and now they as altus wanted to save what they have and have breeding program

 

Dragon blood is connected with elves too who can use their form and they are the most powerfull of them as controll weak ones. and archdeamons are inprison tainted elven evanurises

 

 

 

kossiths are just failed experiement via blood magic what(and Solas explain what blood magic do with fade connnection) does not give them powers what they planned to have as Coryfeus and Aurelian Titus speaks and this explain why they was in first blight and why have some artifacts and knoledges what they should not have cos of their lack of magic as dwarves. their sareabases was born after Qun have other races-elves with fade connection and now qunari ban for crossbreading and this explains how they can use eluvians

[Treacherous J Slither]

^What?!

[Alice112]

The Tevinter mages used the blood of numerous slaves to create the time magic effect seen in the Still Ruins. The blood of those slaves still hangs in the air in the chamber where the spell was cast. A codex on "Responsible Blood Magic" can also be found there