Because they can't set the game in the Milky Way galaxy after the events of ME3 without stepping on a lot of toes.
I would use the get-out-of-jail-free card. The guy did tell the kid the details have changed over time. So anything that happened in the trilogy can be changed
, it's possible Grunt or Liara could be on the Ark.
Fortunately in my playthrough, both are dead
Fortunately in my playthrough, both are dead
Hell, in one of mine everybody is dead - I shot the starbrat.
I would use the get-out-of-jail-free card. The guy did tell the kid the details have changed over time. So anything that happened in the trilogy can be changed
That's still retconing the endings though. Plus people would then ask what was the point of putting us through that nonsense at the end of ME3. But for all we know Andromeda might end up being as cool as the Milky Way. There's probably going to be new locations, races, and cities for us to fall in love with. It's like getting a new dog. You want your old who just died back, but once you get a new one you don't want to give it up.
That's still retconing the endings though. Plus people would then ask what was the point of putting us through that nonsense at the end of ME3. But for all we know Andromeda might end up being as cool as the Milky Way. There's probably going to be new locations, races, and cities for us to fall in love with. It's like getting a new dog. You want your old who just died back, but once you get a new one you don't want to give it up.
So what was the point of the guy making that comment to the kid?
So what was the point of the guy making that comment to the kid?
I dunno. What was the point of 90% of the bad writing that happened in that game? Who the hell knows.
Better than canonizing destroy, by far the best option at all IMHO, is IT. They could always still do that, even after Andromeda. In which case Shepard either got indoctrinated, or stuck to his intent to destroy the Reapers, and survived the Reapers' attempt to destroy him/her if (s)he had enough allies and assets to support him/her. The Reapers are still around and the stakes are higher than ever.
That's what I've been saying they should have done. As a jaw-dropping DLC would probably have been best. That way ME4 could have been a great game about the galaxy in ruins, the aftermath of the reaper war. I would have LOVED to see that!
To see the races struggle for power in a time of great chaos. How would everything shift? What races would come out on top? What happens to those cut off from supply lines after the relays stopped working?
I want to shape the world that Shepard saved. Or at least be part of it. Not necessarily as Shepard, though s/he makes the most sense for a leader people look to for advice.
Defeating the reapers was a huge deal, but the destruction they left in their wake meant millions of people starving.
They could have made so much out of this if they either canonized Destroy or the IT, which would have led to Destroy too.
Btw, if anybody is interested in reading the best Mass Effect aftermath story ever written, check out Reaper Dreams by a very good friend of mine. You will not be disappointed. It combines all three endings in a sense and shows how it could be done if Bioware had better writers. For all of you who want closure. 
That's still retconing the endings though. Plus people would then ask what was the point of putting us through that nonsense at the end of ME3.
People ask that now.
If they want to write this, that or the other, they can.
You really don't want to have another game in the Milky Way. Did you make a choice that isn't popular that you don't want Bioware to ignore?
So what was the point of the guy making that comment to the kid?
Sure. They could make a 2D romance simulator instead of ME:A if they wanted. So what?
Why are you mentioning romance?
What?
What?
No, they have plenty of other choices. They just decided not to use them and took the easy way out, throwing away the lore and practically everything else as they did so in most cases. Plus a lot of the team that worked on ME1-3, including the main people, are still on it. They just moved to a new studio.
Exactly. But when can we do? BioWare does not like it anymore xD we can't do anything. Imo I stopped caring about the lore of Andromeda already before it began the previous game desicion left a bad taste in my mouth. Good thing Battlefront seems to be great... the Witcher series really stole me especially 3 heck even 2 was impressive in its own rights especially those who really learned about its lore and combat
That's what I've been saying they should have done. As a jaw-dropping DLC would probably have been best. That way ME4 could have been a great game about the galaxy in ruins, the aftermath of the reaper war. I would have LOVED to see that!
To see the races struggle for power in a time of great chaos. How would everything shift? What races would come out on top? What happens to those cut off from supply lines after the relays stopped working?
I want to shape the world that Shepard saved. Or at least be part of it. Not necessarily as Shepard, though s/he makes the most sense for a leader people look to for advice.
Defeating the reapers was a huge deal, but the destruction they left in their wake meant millions of people starving.
They could have made so much out of this if they either canonized Destroy or the IT, which would have led to Destroy too.
Btw, if anybody is interested in reading the best Mass Effect aftermath story ever written, check out Reaper Dreams by a very good friend of mine. You will not be disappointed. It combines all three endings in a sense and shows how it could be done if Bioware had better writers. For all of you who want closure.
Problem is that there are too many variables to take into account for this setting to even work, unless events of the Reaper war were canonized.
If someone made peace between the Quarians and Geth but they canonized the extinction of the Quarians because data suggests more gamers did that and the Quarians never made an appearance, that would ****** off a lot of people, especially Tali-mancers.
If the genophage is cured is made canon, and no imports can change that, but with Wreav as the head of the Krogan, that would likely get a lot of people angry.
And that's not even if we get into if everyone is now synthetic/organic combo, the Reapers are controlled by Shepard or not or if Destroy was made the canon and the Geth and EDI are all killed.
There is literally no way I can think of for the developers to take into account everything while also creating a cohesive story. And if they canonized the events of ME3, that would open yet another can of worms, and Bioware had a huge mess to deal with as a result of the endings.
Realistically, the only way the Mass Effect universe can continue after the events of ME3 is in another galaxy.
People ask that now.
I really don't think retcons or a canon ending would ****** off that many people. A lot of people on this forum sure, out of the millions that buy the games not really.
Problem is that there are too many variables to take into account for this setting to even work, unless events of the Reaper war were canonized.
If someone made peace between the Quarians and Geth but they canonized the extinction of the Quarians because data suggests more gamers did that and the Quarians never made an appearance, that would ****** off a lot of people, especially Tali-mancers.
If the genophage is cured is made canon, and no imports can change that, but with Wreav as the head of the Krogan, that would likely get a lot of people angry.
And that's not even if we get into if everyone is now synthetic/organic combo, the Reapers are controlled by Shepard or not or if Destroy was made the canon and the Geth and EDI are all killed.
There is literally no way I can think of for the developers to take into account everything while also creating a cohesive story. And if they canonized the events of ME3, that would open yet another can of worms, and Bioware had a huge mess to deal with as a result of the endings.
Realistically, the only way the Mass Effect universe can continue after the events of ME3 is in another galaxy.
That is correct.
They would have to canonize certain choices prior to the ending, yes. I personally don't have a problem with that. Bioware games have a clear "right" way to play. They design their stories around a nice protagonist and saving as many people as possible. So Bioware could just go with what they consider the best ending and build their story on that foundation. Lots of cameos guaranteed.
But yeah, they wrote themselves into a corner with the ending. It's actually prior choices concerning entire races that are the biggest problem. IT would be one way around the ending disaster. Regardless of what one might think of that solution, it would be possible.
If a game with canonized choices turned out great, I doubt many people would care whether they made the same choices years ago. I know I wouldn't throw a tantrum about the fate of the quarians or the krogan. Staying in the Milky Way, meeting familiar faces, is more important to me.
Staying the Milky Way says nothing about the quality of the game though. It only determines a setting. One that I am still very fond of. But what use is it if they can't work with it anymore?
Of course the same applies to Andromeda. We will find out whether it was a bad idea to start over when the game is released. Worst case scenario, Mass Effect died with Shepard for me. No big deal, I can always replay.
Even if the series continued in the Milky Way, don't you think it was inevitable that the series would've taken us to a new galaxy eventually?
Eventually? Maybe. But we hadn't even explored the entirety of the relay network, let alone more than 1% of the galaxy.
If they hadn't frakked up the setting so badly with their ART the Milky Way could have been an entire franchise of material all by itself. Several franchises even.
Even if the series continued in the Milky Way, don't you think it was inevitable that the series would've taken us to a new galaxy eventually?
I never gave it any thought until Andromeda was mentioned.
Setting Mass Effect 4 in another galaxy was the most logical direction to take the series, from both a business and artistic standpoint. However I'm still seeing threads and comments popping up with people upset that it's not in the Milky Way, or theory crafting how it could take place in the Milky Way.
You have to understand the incredibly awkward position the new team has been put in. Mass Effect 3's ending was written in such a way that they really left no room for a sequel, unless an ending is canonized. As much as I'm sure some of us would be happy for them to just say "Screw it" and canonize Destroy, the reality is that canonizing any ending would be a huge PR mistake and cause another controversy.
Do you really think that is how the new team wants to start things off? They're not gonna say "Okay we canonized Destroy, the game takes place 10 years later." And then proceed to bury their heads in the sand. Especially after they've flat out stated many times that there is no canon ending. After Bioware's history of being caught lying and feeding misinformation, mainly during ME3's production, this is something I imagine they'd like to keep their word on.
There is no possible way to handwave the three endings in a respectable manner either. It doesn't matter how far ahead you set the game. The three choices are galaxy wide, culturally/biologically impacting decisions. It's an unfortunate truth that the Milky Way Galaxy, no matter how much we love it, is completely changed. It's future only exists in our heads. It's unreasonable to suggest the new team should've canonized an ending or try to handwave/retcon all three. They'd be asking for trouble. Even just addressing the endings in any form would bring up bad feelings again.
Setting the new game in another galaxy gives them the most freedom to craft whatever brand new story they want, without having to be chained to the Shepard Trilogy. I know it sucks we'll never see Omega, The Citadel or any of the familiar locations of the Milky Way again. But blame that on the older team's decision to end ME3 the way they did, not the new team for trying to take lemons and make lemonade.
I have my own concerns about ME:A, but setting place in another galaxy isn't one of them, and it shouldn't be for you either.
Sadly you are right (though they could IMHO - and maybe they would, if EA didn't control their purse strings/call the shots - totally discard ME3 (I think that game - aside from gameplay - was a total mess...too linear, bad endings, characters not getting enough screen time (and others no one cares about being implemented - Sorry James but you are quite boring and I'd rather have had Miranda back or something -.-) etc. etc.) and start fresh...or totally trash the trillogy and start from there!), as long as they want to keep what we've got (ME1, ME2 and ME3) they have to leave our galaxy 
Still, I kind of like the scenario (it's not like we could visit the more interesting places in the Lore (Thessia, Palaven, Earth, Sur'kesh) outside of - often crappy story missions - anyway -.-)...I just hope that we get more freedom on inhabited planets (not only smallish areas with a few shops)...without those larger areas being empty/boring though!
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Even if the series continued in the Milky Way, don't you think it was inevitable that the series would've taken us to a new galaxy eventually?
Eventually, perhaps. After the Milky Way had been used to its full potential and our cycle has been shown to be capable of intergalactic travel.
Eventually, perhaps. After the Milky Way had been used to its full potential and our cycle has been shown to be capable of intergalactic travel.
Indeed I can defiantly see our cycle developing intergalactic travel a few centuries after the events of the trilogy. But there is no way its possible to develop intergalactic travel during the same time period as the trilogy. The galaxy is still too dependent on the relay's for long distance travel and the current method of FTL is limited to short range travel.
Well we didn't get to really see places like Palavan, and only got a small taste of Thessia. But after that, I'm not sure what else the Milky Way has to offer. Yes I know 99% unexplored and all that, but if there were other advanced civilizations out there, we would've known about it. The Reapers certainly would. I feel like there's a reason why the Reapers set up the Mass Relays the way they did. Perhaps they knew which Solar Systems would have habitable planets.
Well we didn't get to really see places like Palavan, and only got a small taste of Thessia. But after that, I'm not sure what else the Milky Way has to offer. Yes I know 99% unexplored and all that, but if there were other advanced civilizations out there, we would've known about it. The Reapers certainly would. I feel like there's a reason why the Reapers set up the Mass Relays the way they did. Perhaps they knew which Solar Systems would have habitable planets.
The Citadel Council had been exploring the galaxy for over five centuries before they encountered the rachni. And that was before they got too scared to open dormant relays. Who knows how many advanced civilizations are out there just waiting to be found?
Well we didn't get to really see places like Palavan, and only got a small taste of Thessia. But after that, I'm not sure what else the Milky Way has to offer. Yes I know 99% unexplored and all that, but if there were other advanced civilizations out there, we would've known about it. The Reapers certainly would. I feel like there's a reason why the Reapers set up the Mass Relays the way they did. Perhaps they knew which Solar Systems would have habitable planets.
We got no taste of Thessaia. That could have been any other planet with how little of it we saw. Same with Sur'Kesh.
How do you figure? The Virtual Aliens were a race advanced enough to build a machine capable of uploading their consciousnesses into yet weren't encountered until during the Shepard Trilogy. The Rachni were inhabiting a large swath of space before the Salarians accidentally encountered them. There can be literally anything in the 99% of the Milky Way that hasn't been explored yet. And even of that 1% that is, we've seen practically none of it.
Except there are systems that have inhabitable planets yet don't have a Mass Relay in that system. The Reapers aren't omnipotent, despite how much they think so.
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