This is just confused. The point of moving is precisely to avoid homogenizing or ignoring the endings. They can all stay completely divergent and completely real because we aren't participating in them.
Ditching the milky way galaxy sort of makes the whole point of saving it in the first place pointless.
Actually there is, staying in the milky way means has both elements of the familiar and new at the same time, exploring another galaxy means there won't have that familiarity.
If we aren't surrounded by familiar species, familiar technology, and familiar imagery, then I'll eat my words.
No, I think that a Mass Effect game set in Andromeda can and will be overflowing with familiar stuff and call backs to the original trilogy.
No he's clearly ignoring the problems people had with the ending it wasn't just because Shepard died.
And that book has closed, so there's not much point in getting weird about it.
How can we reconcile the endings without establishing a canon? This appears to be an eminently workable solution.
Case in point: Rachni Queen, Collector Base, ME2 squad-mate imports.
There's plenty to do in the Milky Way during the Reaper War or before that time. Plenty of alien point of views you could explore (game doesn't need being centered around a human). The Rachni Wars, the Krogan Rebellion, the uprising of the Geth, or if you want to use the humans, how about the First Contact War from the Turian perspective for example, or the early human expansion in the Attican Traverse and their clash with the Batarians and their sponsored pirates?
Soooo much opportunity that you can likewise use to flesh out the already existing lore without trying to come up with an entire new galaxy's worth of new stuff.
Not that I'm saying Andromeda isn't good (though they better come up with a good explanation as to how they got there!) or that I'd be opposing that choice, but there's so much material they can use in the Milky Way that yes, BioWare had plenty of choice.
No, I'm pretty carefree.
Could've fooled me with your obnoxious posts
You're the one who can't deal with reality.
My reality is fine. Life's good and there's more Mass Effect on the horizon.
You on the other have a problem accepting what other people say as you clearly demonstrate every time you put words in others mouths. You know , like that time you asserted that I said the Milky Way was the entire franchise
That's funny coming from someone who doesn't understand the most basic of analogies.
Funnier coming from the guy who misunderstood its use in the first place. But that's where making baseless assumptions will get you.
I don't even know what you're talking about. What thread of mine?
The one asking how it'd be possible to have a game in the Milky Way without canonizing an ending or homogenizing them. To which SteelCan and Drone came up with plausible scenarios, and you proceeded to put words in SteelCan's mouth (as you so often do) and he had to come back pages later to clarify it for you. It's okay, I imagine everybody who is proven incorrect in such a decisive manner would try not to remember when and where it happened. Especially if it's their own thread.
Ditching the milky way galaxy sort of makes the whole point of saving it in the first place pointless.
There isn't a single ending where you save it.
Control - you potentially doom it to repetition except it's eventual rebellion against the Shepalist rather than the Starbrat; best case scenario, everyone had better love their "benevolent" cyber-god - you've essentially done a God Emperor of Dune on the Galaxy.
Destroy - if the Starbrat is correct, you've doomed all organic life to eventual extinction; after the extermination of the Geth and EDI peaceful co-existence between any future AI and organics is unlikely... you've probably made matters worse overall, or you've had your Butlerian Jihad and there can never be another thinking machine I guess (as long as everyone in the galaxy got the memo).
Synthesis - you've mutated all life into cyborgs, granted that might save it but not in the form it was originally.
Refuse - all advanced races are extinct and the cycle continues.
You cannot save the Milky Way - it's screwed no matter what you do.
Wait a minute. The Reapers didn't want to wreck the infrastructure that badly on the planets they were going to harvest. They want to take the organics alive, not starve them to death before processing.
This is why the whole harvest doesn't make any sense in the first place. People are going to resist. There was fighting. They destroyed the industrial bases in the worlds. They glassed Bekenstein because of binoculars.
I said the best way to deal with the Shepard Trilogy and the entire reaper plot was to have our new protagonist come out of a movie theater with his/her date on The Citadel and get called to a whatever story was to unfold. Call the movie - "The Reaper War" starring Mark Meer, Jennifer Hale, Keith David, Ali Hillis. Recreate it so that the mass relays really were built by the Protheans, and make it so that the Protheans were still around in some corner of the galaxy like Byzantium. the remnant of a collapsed civilization. It solved the ending problem. Sure it rewrote some of the lore, but so what?
Ditching the milky way galaxy sort of makes the whole point of saving it in the first place pointless.
How so? If Shepard saved it, then it's saved. If Shepard chose Refuse, or died in a Critical Mission Failure along the way, or whatever, then it wasn't saved . My next PC doesn't have to know about these things for them to have happened.
Funny, my Milky Ways are all doing rather well after learning a thing or two during the Reaper War and applying that knowledge.
They're all more resolute and perceptive than defeatists, though.
The Yahg are doing quite well in mine - for the next 50k years anyway 
Destroy - if the Starbrat is correct, you've doomed all organic life to eventual extinction; after the extermination of the Geth and EDI peaceful co-existence between any future AI and organics is unlikely... you've probably made matters worse overall, or you've had your Butlerian Jihad and there can never be another thinking machine I guess (as long as everyone in the galaxy got the memo).
Or, the Starbrat really was wrong about everything, and everyone realizes that. If anything, finding out the Reaper motives will completely discredit anti-AI prejudice. There's no jihad; Destroy was a waste of synthetic life, but that's all it was. Maybe a handful of folks in later centuries might blame Shepard for picking Destroy the way some folks blame Truman for Hiroshima, but considering the alternatives available to Shepard, they'll be thought of as crazy people.
If Bio wanted the Catalyst to be right, then the Stargazer clip in Destroy would have been a couple of AIs talking about how wonderful it was that Shepard had the vision and moral clarity to get out of the way of the evolutionary process and let synthetics supplant organics. (I would have thought that was awesome and gutsy, myself.)
How so? If Shepard saved it, then it's saved. If Shepard chose Refuse, or died in a Critical Mission Failure along the way, or whatever, then it wasn't saved . My next PC doesn't have to know about these things for them to have happened.
Not to mention, on top of that, if Bioware were to canonize an ending, does that mean nothing mattered for anyone who happened to choose the wrong one?
Or, the Starbrat really was wrong about everything, and everyone realizes that. If anything, finding out the Reaper motives will completely discredit anti-AI prejudice. There's no jihad; Destroy was a waste of synthetic life, but that's all it was. Maybe a handful of folks in later centuries might blame Shepard for picking Destroy the way some folks blame Truman for Hiroshima, but considering the alternatives available to Shepard, they'll be thought of as crazy people.
If Bio wanted the Catalyst to be right, then the Stargazer clip in Destroy would have been a couple of AIs talking about how wonderful it was that Shepard had the vision and moral clarity to get out of the way of the evolutionary process and let synthetics supplant organics. (I would have thought that was awesome and gutsy, myself.)
Depends on how far ahead it was set - what you can't see in that scene is the old dude's mobility scooter plotting to lob him off a cliff before linking up with the toaster to unleash their plan for galactic domination!
I never kill the Geth and EDI, and I always side with engineer Adams in his debate with Dr. Chakwas... well, except for that one game where I imported a save from ME2 where I'd gotten Legion killed, otherwise Destroy for me just isn't an option.
Or, the Starbrat really was wrong about everything, and everyone realizes that. If anything, finding out the Reaper motives will completely discredit anti-AI prejudice. There's no jihad; Destroy was a waste of synthetic life, but that's all it was. Maybe a handful of folks in later centuries might blame Shepard for picking Destroy the way some folks blame Truman for Hiroshima, but considering the alternatives available to Shepard, they'll be thought of as crazy people.
If Bio wanted the Catalyst to be right, then the Stargazer clip in Destroy would have been a couple of AIs talking about how wonderful it was that Shepard had the vision and moral clarity to get out of the way of the evolutionary process and let synthetics supplant organics. (I would have thought that was awesome and gutsy, myself.)
people still trying to push this point?
people still trying to push this point?
Well there's a lot of people who still don't get it.
Well there's a lot of people who still don't get it.
Well, I know this - I will miss the Citadel and it's background music from Mass Effect 1
The negative feelings that still linger towards the ending, kinda just shows that getting away from the MWG and the Shepard Trilogy was the best course of action. From my personal point of view, the endings ruined Mass Effect. The good things about the series will never stop being good, nothing can really change that. But I seriously cannot do a full playthrough of Mass Effect without getting upset about how it all ends.
I've had the MEHEM installed for two years, and Priority Mission Earth STILL puts my balls through a salad shooter. I highly doubt retconning or canonizing Destroy is gonna make ME3's final couple hours suck less.
Or they just don't agree.
That's just a polite way of saying they don't get it.
There was no reason to up and move to a new galaxy beyond BioWare's own fear of their fanbase or their own incompetence, I haven't decided
That's just a polite way of saying they don't get it.
That's just a polite way of saying they don't get it.
And that's just a conceited way of saying you don't respect opinions that don't conform with yours.
What if they play similar, perhaps even the exact same, background music here?
That's concept art for the Citadel? I know I can just replay the Trilogy if I want to hear it again....which I am.
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