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[Dunmer of Redoran]

I still believe that we are getting another Milky Way/Shepard game. However, I suspect that it's going to have a lot to do with how well Andromeda sells. If Andromeda gets good reviews and sells really well, it's not going to happen. If it doesn't perform up to expectations, then they'll have more impetus to follow up on their major characters and whatnot.

[Mathias]

There was no reason to up and move to a new galaxy beyond BioWare's own fear of their fanbase or their own incompetence, I haven't decided

 

It's neither. Well it might be a bit of the former, but they were dealing with a Category 5 S***storm back in 2012, I'm sure they don't even want to begin to flirt with dealing with that again. It's also worth considering they realized the potential in storytelling to take the series to another galaxy.

 

 

I'm sure you actually think that.

 

And that's just a conceited way of saying you don't respect opinions that don't conform with yours.

 

No it's just being brutally honest. Anyone who thinks it would've been a better idea to just canonize or retcon the endings, don't understand that those are irrational and unrealistic expectations, given all we've been through. Not to mention the time and resources Bioware poured into making a free Extended Cut DLC and stick with their vision. But now all of a sudden they should just go "Ok fine, you win"?

 

No. Sorry. That's just not gonna happen.

[dreamgazer]

"Given all we've been through"? Oh, maker. Enjoy the continued ME3 moping, Mathias.

[Mathias]

I still believe that we are getting another Milky Way/Shepard game. However, I suspect that it's going to have a lot to do with how well Andromeda sells. If Andromeda gets good reviews and sells really well, it's not going to happen. If it doesn't perform up to expectations, then they'll have more impetus to follow up on their major characters and whatnot.

 

I think it's equally or more likely they might just move on entirely from Mass Effect if ME:A doesn't sell. Which I think it's gonna sell just fine.

[Mathias]

"Given all we've been through"? Oh, maker. Enjoy the continued ME3 moping, Mathias.

 

What are you talking about?

[Erstus]

It's concept art for something Citadel-like in Andromeda.

Oh, that's great. I was concerned that there would be no city-hubs like the Citadel in Andromeda.

I'm excited for that then. It looks good

[Fidite Nemini]

 

No it's just being brutally honest. Anyone who thinks it would've been a better idea to just canonize or retcon the endings, don't understand that those are irrational and unrealistic expectations, given all we've been through. Not to mention the time and resources Bioware poured into making a free Extended Cut DLC and stick with their vision. But now all of a sudden they should just go "Ok fine, you win"?

 

No. Sorry. That's just not gonna happen.

 

You suffer from tunnel-vision. You're so fixated on the ME3 endings and what could come after that you don't see the wealth of opportunities to set a game before or during the Reaper War.

 

To reiterate what I had posted earlier:

 

There's plenty to do in the Milky Way during the Reaper War or before that time. Plenty of alien point of views you could explore (game doesn't need being centered around a human). The Rachni Wars, the Krogan Rebellion, the uprising of the Geth, or if you want to use the humans, how about the First Contact War from the Turian perspective for example, or the early human expansion in the Attican Traverse and their clash with the Batarians and their sponsored pirates?

 

Soooo much opportunity that you can likewise use to flesh out the already existing lore without trying to come up with an entire new galaxy's worth of new stuff.

 

Not that I'm saying Andromeda isn't good (though they better come up with a good explanation as to how they got there!) or that I'd be opposing that choice, but there's so much material they can use in the Milky Way that yes, BioWare had plenty of choice.

 

You're limiting your creativity and can't see the trees in the forest because you're staring at that one stump all the time.

[Gothfather]

It doesn't FRAKING matter what any of us think. You agree or disagree so fraking what. We are the consumers of the product not its creators we have only one point of importance in the whole process. Do I buy or not buy the product. We are not as important as we think we are. This is all bullsh!t. The game is in Andromeda, the endings are what they are and stop the QQing. If you find the choices made by Bioware to be so egregious to your sensibilities that you can't accept Andromeda then don't buy the game. That is the ONLY power you have as a consumer. Stop whining. If you can't handle that Bioware isn't going to fix the issue with the endings and create your canon ending as submitted for your approval then don't buy the game.

 

This is childish. The game is set in Andromeda that ISN'T going to change your opinions have ZERO barring on this. Yep that is right our lofty opinion means nothing on this point. The game's setting is what it is. If you have a problem then do the RESPONSIBLE thing and NOT buy the title. Those that are fine with it will buy the title. There problem solved.

[Mathias]

You suffer from tunnel-vision. You're so fixated on the ME3 endings and what could come after that you don't see the wealth of opportunities to set a game before or during the Reaper War.

 

To reiterate what I had posted earlier:

 

 

You're limiting your creativity and can't see the trees in the forest because you're staring at that one stump all the time.

 

I already gone over that fans in general didn't want a prequel. Some did, but most seemed not to. I'm just going by the responses to the tweets posted by Casey, polls, and forum posts.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I think it's equally or more likely they might just move on entirely from Mass Effect if ME:A doesn't sell. Which I think it's gonna sell just fine.

 

But is selling "fine" good enough for a major franchise like ME? It's impossible to predict how it's going to do. Until sales figures roll in, it's anybody's guess.

 

It doesn't FRAKING matter what any of us think. You agree or disagree so fraking what. We are the consumers of the product not its creators we have only one point of importance in the whole process. Do I buy or not buy the product. We are not as important as we think we are. This is all bullsh!t. The game is in Andromeda, the endings are what they are and stop the QQing. If you find the choices made by Bioware to be so egregious to your sensibilities that you can't accept Andromeda then don't buy the game. That is the ONLY power you have as a consumer. Stop whining. If you can't handle that Bioware isn't going to fix the issue with the endings and create your canon ending as submitted for your approval then don't buy the game.

 

This is childish. The game is set in Andromeda that ISN'T going to change your opinions have ZERO barring on this. Yep that is right our lofty opinion means nothing on this point. The game's setting is what it is. If you have a problem then do the RESPONSIBLE thing and NOT buy the title. Those that are fine with it will buy the title. There problem solved.

 

Incorrect. Complaining is much, much more effective than boycotting. Not buying doesn't tell the producer anything, so they simply lose money and do not know what they did wrong. Complaining on the other hand informs the producer what issues there are, and makes them more likely to attempt to cater to disgruntled customers since they have a notion of what can be done.

[Il Divo]

There was no reason to up and move to a new galaxy beyond BioWare's own fear of their fanbase or their own incompetence, I haven't decided

 

Still, easy to say considering none of us take the risk if Bioware makes a bad product. We just get to come here and yell about how crazy they were for making x, y, or z decision.

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Game development isn't really about proving the size of your cajones, at the end of the day.

[Mathias]

But is selling "fine" good enough for a major franchise like ME? It's impossible to predict how it's going to do. Until sales figures roll in, it's anybody's guess.

 

 

Well I didn't mean for you to take "fine" that literally. For the sake of the conversation I think it'll at least sell well enough. But yeah we'll see.

 

 

I don't have any problems with the game being set in Andromeda. The ending of ME3 didn't bother me one bit either. In fact, I rather enjoyed it.

 

Bring on Andromeda. I'm looking forward to it.

Exploring the brand new setting that Bioware created in ME1 was part of what made it so awesome. If we get to do that again, then yea bring it on.

[Fidite Nemini]

I already gone over that fans in general didn't want a prequel. Some did, but most seemed not to. I'm just going by the responses to the tweets posted by Casey, polls, and forum posts.

 

They didn't want prequels to the Shepard trilogy. That doesn't mean people don't want to explore the history of the ME universe.

[Mathias]

They didn't want prequels to the Shepard trilogy. That doesn't mean people don't want to explore the history of the ME universe.

 

Anything set before the ending of ME3 should be considered a prequel. Because that's basically what it is. And really I don't think anything in the ME history is worth making a full blown game out of imho. A movie or a book? Sure. 

[Drone223]

 

If we aren't surrounded by familiar species, familiar technology, and familiar imagery, then I'll eat my words.

 

No, I think that a Mass Effect game set in Andromeda can and will be overflowing with familiar stuff and call backs to the original trilogy.

From what is seen so far it hardly resembles ME.

 

And that book has closed, so there's not much point in getting weird about it.

 

How can we reconcile the endings without establishing a canon? This appears to be an eminently workable solution.

 

The point is that he refuses to admit that the ending was flawed he doesn't have to bash his own work but he shouldn't pretend there was nothing wrong with it either.

[Mathias]

From what is seen so far it hardly resembles ME.

I didn't like the choice of music in the teaser trailer, that was pretty much my only complaint. But everything else looked familiar to me. The minute that guy in the trailer turned around and walked towards the camera, I knew it was Mass Effect.

[Drone223]

There isn't a single ending where you save it.

 

Control - you potentially doom it to repetition except it's eventual rebellion against the Shepalist rather than the Starbrat; best case scenario, everyone had better love their "benevolent" cyber-god - you've essentially done a God Emperor of Dune on the Galaxy.

 

Destroy - if the Starbrat is correct, you've doomed all organic life to eventual extinction; after the extermination of the Geth and EDI peaceful co-existence between any future AI and organics is unlikely... you've probably made matters worse overall, or you've had your Butlerian Jihad and there can never be another thinking machine I guess (as long as everyone in the galaxy got the memo).

 

Synthesis - you've mutated all life into cyborgs, granted that might save it but not in the form it was originally.

 

Refuse - all advanced races are extinct and the cycle continues.

 

 

You cannot save the Milky Way - it's screwed no matter what you do.

I'm pretty Shepard did save the galaxy by blowing up the reapers.

 

How so? If Shepard saved it, then it's saved. If Shepard chose Refuse, or died in a Critical Mission Failure along the way, or whatever, then it wasn't saved . My next PC doesn't have to know about these things for them to have happened.

Its hard to care about the galaxy if its just going to be discarded like rubbish.

[Il Divo]

Nothing stopping you from going back and playing the trilogy if it's really that much of a problem.

[Il Divo]

I didn't like the choice of music in the teaser trailer, that was pretty much my only complaint. But everything else looked familiar to me. The minute that guy in the trailer turned around and walked towards the camera, I knew it was Mass Effect.

 

It's no worse than the ME3 teaser trailer in terms of being "Mass Effect" esque. ​And that had I think a 2-3 second shot of a Reaper and a husk (of all things).

[Killroy]

There was no reason to up and move to a new galaxy beyond BioWare's own fear of their fanbase or their own incompetence, I haven't decided

 

Aside from ME3 severely boning the Milky Way and potential for sequels therein, sure. No reason at all.

[Mathias]

It's no worse than the ME3 teaser trailer in terms of being "Mass Effect" esque. ​And that had I think a 2-3 second shot of a Reaper and a husk (of all things).

 

Yeah ME3's trailer was pretty out there.

[saladinbob]

If people are rational, they'll realise it's a natural tendency of any company to just move on and keep working to make each new product better than the last.

 

We won't see Shepard, the Citadel or Omega again? Great. That means Bioware is working hard to create something new and improved that brings the ME trilogy to its knees.

 

Yes because that worked so well in Dragon Age...

 

The fact is there are plenty of ways to continue in the Milky Way and provide a great gaming experience, great writing and plenty of exploration without the need to resort to another Galaxy. The only reason to do that is because of a recognition of just how badly they messed up ME3's ending and a refusal to deal with the mess they created. In short, Andromeda (the setting, not the game) is one giant cop out.

[themikefest]

I still believe that we are getting another Milky Way/Shepard game. However, I suspect that it's going to have a lot to do with how well Andromeda sells. If Andromeda gets good reviews and sells really well, it's not going to happen. If it doesn't perform up to expectations, then they'll have more impetus to follow up on their major characters and whatnot.

That's possible

 

As I've posted in other threads I do believe the next game after Andromeda will take place in the Milky Way featuring Shepard regardless how well Andromeda sells. I like for Andromeda to do very well. Only time will answer that

 

The other thing is why not have two teams make a Mass Effect game? One team, the current team, continue in Andromeda and another team make a games in the Milky Way.  I might be the only one on the planet who has this thought.

[medusa_hair]

I'm not sure another galaxy was their only option, but I like it.  It will be good to get a fresh start from the beginning.  It would have been such a minefield if they didn't anyway, can you imagine?  Complaining on social media about why did they make this ME3 ending or that ME3 ending canon, why did you treat (fill in the blank with old pcompanion) this way, how dare you have (fill in the blank) come back but not (fill in the blank), on and on and on.  I can't blame them one bit for starting afresh.  

 

Anyway the idea of new companions, new planets, even a new "me" is pretty cool in my opinion.  I would rather do that than keep recycling the same thing over and over again.