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which is better suited for 2handed reaver-Prismatic Greatsword or Axe of the Dragon Hunter ?


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KennedyCZW

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sorry, im new here, 1st time post , thus couldn't upload any picture yet , as per the tittle which is better suited for 2handed reaver ? the 2weapons that i have is in this link http://imgur.com/9Vd4jUZ



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JiaJM98

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chromatic greatsword, without doubt
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KennedyCZW

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chromatic greatsword, without doubt

 

how is it chromatic greatsword better ? I'm confuse on stat-wise the Axe of dragon hunter are way better than chromatic greatsword ? mind explain ?



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Chromatic. 

 

Reaver wants to put out as many numbers as he/she can. Critting is important, but when you're hitting as much as the reaver does, it takes a back seat to on hit effects especially as one as good as the random elemental damage you get out of the chromatic greatsword. It's like hitting twice. 

 

In general I only go Dragon Hunter on Templars, who want the most oomph out of one hit. 

 

Also if you're not going Fade Touched Bloodstone for the 7.5% damage for surrounding enemies, I would critical crafting your 2h weapon. 



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yes. chromatic does the same amout of elemental damage as your physical attacks.

so, if you do 3k per swing fron DR, then you also get an extra 3k fire/cold/electric elemental damage

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I find that walking bomb are more affective against group mobs ,because with reaver high raw damages output ,sometime per sec walking bomb goes up to 1k and explode with 10k damages , versatile against group or solo mob ,whereas,  Fade Touched Bloodstone are situational only



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i use guard on hit and fear on hit masterworks. i just need that extra bit of survivability because im addicted to that superb belt of urgency. honestly, it feels better than having rampage on. plus you deal extra damage when you are low on health as well. every fight ends in seconds evem on NM. the attack speed really is just... ridiculous.

but i really do need that plus max guard sigil and guard on hit masterwork to keep me alive when i have next to no health. horn of valor helps as well.
now i use devour when i cant use dragon rage any more, i.e. literally no health left whatsoever
but in general you will generate guard fast enough through your ridiculous attack speed and everything dies too quickly to make them a threat. aggro isnt the issue because they die before they change their target. but what ever you do, just dont be the one to draw the group aggro. let your champion/ke do that.

it feels like i cant play reaver any more when i have over 50% health.

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Go Chromatic and be sure to sing the My Little Pony theme song while killing demons.
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I find that walking bomb are more affective against group mobs ,because with reaver high raw damages output ,sometime per sec walking bomb goes up to 1k and explode with 10k damages , versatile against group or solo mob ,whereas,  Fade Touched Bloodstone are situational only

 

I just did some playtesting to see the kind of damage you can get. 

 

100% weapon damage every other second, which can't crit isn't that great.  The explosion is pretty mediocre too and seems to be around 100% damage. Though it can crit. This on a 10% chance is meh. I'm not seeing the 10k you're seeing and I tested it on a rogue/mage/warrior. I'm interested, because how it stands now, I thinks it's kind of crap. But if you're getting 10k, that would bump my opinion of it if I could replicate what you did.

 

If you're really into making explosions your thing, fade touched nevarrite's "explode for 75% weapon damage on kill" causes an enemy to explode for a % of your killing blows damage (I'm not convinced it's 75%)  and I think this is much better than the walking bomb masterwork as it's active all the time. Not super great on bosses, but just make another weapon with a different masterwork for bosses. I don't think this is that great on classes that don't have huge numbers on demand, but you could maybe get it to work on the reaver. 

 

Bloodstone may not be the greatest on bosses but it's one of the best masterworks for a close quarters combatant as you're constantly surrounded by enemies for most of the game. 


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just uploaded my playthrough against highland ravager dragon on nightmare ,there are 2 denotation walking bomb denotation,1st explosion is 9.5k at 0.21second ,the 2nd with mighty tonic wore off but exploded with 14k damages at 1.05second ...



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just uploaded my playthrough against highland ravager dragon on nightmare ,there are 2 denotation walking bomb denotation,1st explosion is 9.5k at 0.21second ,the 2nd with mighty tonic wore off but exploded with 14k damages at 1.05second ...

 

Interesting.

 

You have any idea what causes this? It does not happen in my game. 



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KennedyCZW

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im not sure ,but the constant 1k damages is pretty nice though even without the explosion ....



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im not sure ,but the constant 1k damages is pretty nice though even without the explosion ....

 

Then 10k is super good. I'm just not seeing it.

 

I was using auto attacks previously, might be tied to what skill you're using when it applied the masterwork. As in "100% of weapon damage you cause" not 100% damage like an auto attack.

 

I'll do some more testing. It looks like the best effect masterwork in the game if it works like that I'd take it over every other one.



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Then 10k is super good. I'm just not seeing it.

 

I was using auto attacks previously, might be tied to what skill you're using when it applied the masterwork. As in "100% of weapon damage you cause" not 100% damage like an auto attack.

 

I'll do some more testing. It looks like the best effect masterwork in the game if it works like that I'd take it over every other one.

 

You're mistaking how the Walking Bomb effect works :)

 

If you're watching, when he gets the 10-14k spikes, he had a long string of criticals after the bomb procced. Either its a bug, or not worded properly but the Walking Bomb Masterwork seems to function as a short duration Mark of Death for the MW wielder. So, its taking 100% of the damage dealt over its duration.

 

If Necro's Walking Bomb spell worked that way, I'd definitely play Necro more often.

 

As for the OP -- Yeah Chromatic Sword is way better, and you hardly ever see the hilt in combat.



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You're mistaking how the Walking Bomb effect works :)

 

If you're watching, when he gets the 10-14k spikes, he had a long string of criticals after the bomb procced. Either its a bug, or not worded properly but the Walking Bomb Masterwork seems to function as a short duration Mark of Death for the MW wielder. So, its taking 100% of the damage dealt over its duration.

 

If Necro's Walking Bomb spell worked that way, I'd definitely play Necro more often.

ya ...it maybe a glitch or wrongly worded about the fade touched ....seem like 100% of the damage dealt over its duration ...



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ya ...it maybe a glitch or wrongly worded about the fade touched ....seem like 100% of the damage dealt over its duration ...

 

Its even worse when you realize that effect is an AOE.



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So basically it's the best masterwork in the game. Because it's glitched.

 

Aight. lmao.



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The 100% weapon damage is autoattack damage. It then explodes for the normal x% weapon damage (don't remember the actual%), which is further buffed by the Reaver passives and the other buffs that are active.

 

Every masterwork works just like this; even for raw damage, walking bomb is about average.



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strange thing about chromatic weapons is that i'm doing very low damage from basic physical attack and good elemental. and it's tested on enemies with 0 armor. i mean i 'm doing 80 physical damage+300 elemetal,something it's wrong

 

axe of the dragon hunter is bugged and allows to have upgrades too,and it's very strong. you can have a lot of critical chance

 

people here speaks a lot of powerful critical damge but i bet they have low critical chance. it's not fai to compare critical damages if you don't have at least 50% critical cance (and it's low..1 of 2 is still normal ht)



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strange thing about chromatic weapons is that i'm doing very low damage from basic physical attack and good elemental. and it's tested on enemies with 0 armor. i mean i 'm doing 80 physical damage+300 elemetal,something it's wrong

 

axe of the dragon hunter is bugged and allows to have upgrades too,and it's very strong. you can have a lot of critical chance

 

people here speaks a lot of powerful critical damge but i bet they have low critical chance. it's not fai to compare critical damages if you don't have at least 50% critical cance (and it's low..1 of 2 is still normal ht)

 

totally agreed with you ,I sacrifice pretty much crit damage in order to obtain high crit chance , this my character stat

http://imgur.com/a/CCA0i(sorry couldn't upload pic here cos I'm still newbie here)



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Its even worse when you realize that effect is an AOE.

 


So basically it's the best masterwork in the game. Because it's glitched.

 

Aight. lmao.

 

new record with walking bomb with rogue , it when up to 23.5k when explode ....

http://imgur.com/VrI2Stythis the picture ,sorry still new and the forum doesn't allow me to post pic yet= =