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Each DA installment has had one of the four Forbidden Ones appear in some fashion and I don't expect DA4 to be different.

 

Though I have to wonder why this spirit/demon/disembodied elf is merely called "The Formless One" while the others at least have names. Is he literally a formless entity of darkness? Did he have a name, but was so dreaded and feared that people call him the Formless One to keep from mentioning that name?



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I hope the role is major or maybe even a main villain or something. The other 3 was so easy to beat it's almost as if it was done that way to screw us over when the final one appears.



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Each DA installment has had one of the four formless ones appear in some fashion and I don't expect DA4 to be different.

 

Though I have to wonder why this spirit/demon/disembodied elf is merely called "The Formless One" while the others at least have names. Is he literally a formless entity of darkness? Did he have a name, but was so dreaded and feared that people call him the Formless One to keep from mentioning that name?

 

Do you mean the Forbidden ones?



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Makes sense the Formless One will be a side quest boss fight like the rest of his/her brethren. Hopefully the Formless One will be handled a little bit better than Imshael ... I was just exploring when I bumped into him and killed him



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Makes sense the Formless One will be a side quest boss fight like the rest of his/her brethren. Hopefully the Formless One will be handled a little bit better than Imshael ... I was just exploring when I bumped into him and killed him

How? He was deep in a Keep.



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Formless One will 99% be a side boss like the last three.

How? He was deep in a Keep.

Hell even Michel tells you about him.



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Do you mean the Forbidden ones?

Yep, also called the unbounded.

 

DAO had Gaxkang.

 

DA2  had Xebenkeck.

 

DAI had Imshael.


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Tho maybe the Formless One might play a big role after the reveal that they where indeed elves before they became demons?



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I hope he's harder to kill than Imshael. I mean, sure, his predecessors are also simple to once you realise that Magebane exists and kiting Xebenkeck out of the room works, but at least you have to think about it. I killed Imshael on my first try without even getting close to death :( .

 

Maybe the Formless One could bring his buddies with him to DA4? And then Xebenkeck could bring her buddies?


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I'm pretty sure the Formless One will make an appearance in the book/comic that's featuring Fenris.

 

Also, having not read about ME prior, all I knew from Michel was that there was a demon. The whole quest line wasn't like how you encountered the previous Forbidden Ones



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I'm guessing the plot with Solas will not be the main focus of DA4, but more of a background plot. The hero of DA4 will, in a big side quest, run into the Formless One (possibly by helping the Inquisitor) in order to find out more about Solas' plot.

 

Maybe Solas wishes to recruit the Formless One, and the Savior of Tevinter has to disperse the Formless One so Solas does not get a powerful ally.

 

The Formless One will take the form of a golden dragon who accuses the hero of being a thief.



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What's interesting is that Imshael calls out to Xebenkeck and Gaxkhang during his battle but NOT the Formless One. Was it the odd man out of their little clique?

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What's interesting is that Imshael calls out to Xebenkeck and Gaxkhang during his battle but NOT the Formless One. Was it the odd man out of their little clique?


Do we even know the Formless One is part of their clique? Elves are known to get things wrong. We don't even know the Formless One exists. For all we know the elves accidentally dropped the 's' on: Gaxkang, Xebenkeck, and Imshael, the formless ones.

I would laugh my ass off.

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Do we even know the Formless One is part of their clique? Elves are known to get things wrong. We don't even know the Formless One exists. For all we know the elves accidentally dropped the 's' on: Gaxkang, Xebenkeck, and Imshael, the formless ones.

I would laugh my ass off.

That would be funny. It does seem a little too neat and tidy to be able to deal with 3 out of 4 of them, one with each protagonist, three games in a row. I mean, they survived thousands of years, but I guess they couldn't possibly survive the most powerful entity in Thedas: The Player ^_^

 

As an aside: I remember Gaxkang in DA:O, but not Xebenkeck in DA2.



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Makes sense the Formless One will be a side quest boss fight like the rest of his/her brethren. Hopefully the Formless One will be handled a little bit better than Imshael ... I was just exploring when I bumped into him and killed him

 

I also hope that the Formless One proves to be more of a challenge in the next game, plus with that name the visual needs to really impress!!



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Do we even know the Formless One is part of their clique? Elves are known to get things wrong. We don't even know the Formless One exists. For all we know the elves accidentally dropped the 's' on: Gaxkang, Xebenkeck, and Imshael, the formless ones.

I would laugh my ass off.

1. It's not elves where got this info.

 

2.The ancient elves is a different story.



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Do you mean the Forbidden ones?

 

My bad, fixed.

 

Anyone think that the Forbidden Ones are similar/related to the Evanuris and Forgotten Ones?


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My bad, fixed.

Anyone think that the Forbidden Ones are similar/related to the Evanuris and Forgotten Ones?

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1. It's not elves where got this info.

2.The ancient elves is a different story.


See two posts below yours.

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See two posts below yours.

None of that covers my point.



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We haven't really been killing them, just banishing them back into the Fade. I don't remember whether that's established with Gaxkang or Xebenkeck, but point is, we're not some schmuck killing the millenia-old Forbidden Ones. We're giving them a minor setback, at best.

Also, there are theories that suggest we've already met the Formless One. The Band of Three (the ill-fated group in those hidden Kirkwall codices) speculated that the Forbidden Ones = the Forgotten Ones of elven lore. Trespasser confirms that the evanuris considered the Forbidden Ones to be enemies (deserters?), so that's another connection to elves.

If the Forbidden Ones are the Forgotten Ones, we know three names for the Forgotten Ones. Geldauran, Anaris, and Daern'thal. But wait, if they're the same, wheres #4? Well, according to Dalish legends, Fen'Harel was considered kin to both the creators and the Forgotten Ones. And Imshael was oddly buddy-buddy with Felassan, who we now know was an agent of Fen'Harel.

And hey, how strange, in Trespasser we're given the option of whether we want to try to kill Solas. Almost like he's going to be an optional fight in DA4.

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What if the Formless One is a companion? He wouldn't tell us his identity outright, but it would be an interesting change of pace.
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Also, there are theories that suggest we've already met the Formless One. The Band of Three (the ill-fated group in those hidden Kirkwall codices) speculated that the Forbidden Ones = the Forgotten Ones of elven lore. Trespasser confirms that the evanuris considered the Forbidden Ones to be enemies (deserters?), so that's another connection to elves.

If the Forbidden Ones are the Forgotten Ones, we know three names for the Forgotten Ones. Geldauran, Anaris, and Daern'thal. But wait, if they're the same, wheres #4? Well, according to Dalish legends, Fen'Harel was considered kin to both the creators and the Forgotten Ones. And Imshael was oddly buddy-buddy with Felassan, who we now know was an agent of Fen'Harel.

There is no evidence to support the idea that the Forbidden Ones are the Forgotten Ones. The Forbidden Ones were deserters (likely in the war that elevated the Evanuris) . The Forbidden Ones were Elvhes who didn't believe in the divinity of the Evanuris. The Band of Three notes never indicate that they found anything to support their theory despite a decade of searching.

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We haven't really been killing them, just banishing them back into the Fade. I don't remember whether that's established with Gaxkang or Xebenkeck, but point is, we're not some schmuck killing the millenia-old Forbidden Ones. We're giving them a minor setback, at best.

Also, there are theories that suggest we've already met the Formless One. The Band of Three (the ill-fated group in those hidden Kirkwall codices) speculated that the Forbidden Ones = the Forgotten Ones of elven lore. Trespasser confirms that the evanuris considered the Forbidden Ones to be enemies (deserters?), so that's another connection to elves.

If the Forbidden Ones are the Forgotten Ones, we know three names for the Forgotten Ones. Geldauran, Anaris, and Daern'thal. But wait, if they're the same, wheres #4? Well, according to Dalish legends, Fen'Harel was considered kin to both the creators and the Forgotten Ones. And Imshael was oddly buddy-buddy with Felassan, who we now know was an agent of Fen'Harel.

And hey, how strange, in Trespasser we're given the option of whether we want to try to kill Solas. Almost like he's going to be an optional fight in DA4.

The option was ether to do everything we can to stop him or redeem him. Nothing about straight up killing him.



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There is no evidence to support the idea that the Forbidden Ones are the Forgotten Ones. The Forbidden Ones were deserters (likely in the war that elevated the Evanuris) . The Forbidden Ones were Elvhes who didn't believe in the divinity of the Evanuris. The Band of Three notes never indicate that they found anything to support their theory despite a decade of searching.

Yse, there is...

 

http://dragonage.wik...gma_of_Kirkwall