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Was the N7 Fury nerfed? Or am i missing something?


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Valorh

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Hey guys, i just recently unlocked the N7 Fury and the recharge speed for her powers seems to be really high. I've got both AF and DC at a 15sec. recharge. But when i look at most videos and guides on youtube people have their recharge time at around 2 seconds. What am i doing wrong?

 

Thank you!



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Brannigans 1ove

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Using the spitfire on her?  Without seeing your build, we can't really tell you what you're doing wrong.



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Brannigans 1ove

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This is the build I use for her.

 

http://kalence.drupa...!13L52383!G98B3


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Yeah, I'm really digging the newest balance changes.


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Fuenf789

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Yep. Agree with brannigans. A weapon is really only decorative on a fury.

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Valorh

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Thanks. I was using her with a handgun and a sub-machine. That's pretty stupid of me lol



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I like.
The only difference is that my fury' throw is specced 4 radius. -> Since the BE from throw + AF is both level 6, anyway, mooks don't get dead'er' with damage. As for bosses - it the l6's be that hurts them not the throw...

So speccing for radius help her personality to be more "broadsword".

She's a niche of a character like the claymoar is for weapons. At the beginning quite foreign, but absolute fun once you respect the gem
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Thanks. I was using her with a handgun and a sub-machine. That's pretty stupid of me lol

Try her with a Claymore, she'll love it.



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Try her with a Claymore, she'll love it.


All of them do ;)
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The last set of balance changes was March 12, 2013.


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The last set of balance changes was March 12, 2013.

But when was the last time a Fury was equipped with Spitfire and Javelin? ;)



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But when was the last time a Fury was equipped with Spitfire and Javelin? ;)

 

Today at 2AM perhaps.


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But when was the last time a Fury was equipped with Spitfire and Javelin? ;)


Probably still happens on a daily basis somewhere in pug land :P
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All of them do ;)



All is possible ... one might also loading her with your favourite spitfire or the batarian melee, ... But

Since she( branigans example)
- deals damage multiplicatively.
- can prime and detonate herself CQC and at the far end of the map,
- can strike through shields and barriers with DC

One wonders if the weight penalty of a claymoar is not a playstyle tradeoff- >with a claymoar the fury wont need to get so close and personal, but would lose 50% speed on all recharge : AF & DC (priming) drop from 2.46s to 4.32s and from being able to throw every 1.23s to every 2.16s.
Multiply it for plat by 4.3875 damage and u got some serious damage dynamite in that lady.

Continuous Total time for prime and detonate drops from 3.39s to 6.48s overall (197% slower), which can be partially negated through reload cancelling every 1.04s but then only for small maps where bosses are close and you are consistently gud with reloading, aiming & shooting as Deerber or Nat.

So what you win on the mooks you lose on being closer to bosses and minibosses to let the claymoar do some talking.

Just 4 ref 4 those quantitively inclined : (source corlist)
Combo damage =
(Minimum damage + (Maximum damage - Minimum damage) / 10 * (combo level - 2)) * difficulty scaling * combo damage bonus * combo damage bonus
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One wonders if the weight penalty of a claymoar is not a playstyle tradeoff

 

This is why i prefer putting a Graal on her with an ULM mod and Wrape ammo.



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All of them do ;)

Why would any girl like a big, gun that shoots that large a load?


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NuclearTech76

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This is why i prefer putting a Graal on her with an ULM mod and Wrape ammo.

Rape ammo sounds painful. 



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All is possible ... one might also loading her with your favourite spitfire or the batarian melee, ... But

Since she( branigans example)
- deals damage multiplicatively.
- can prime and detonate herself CQC and at the far end of the map,
- can strike through shields and barriers with DC

One wonders if the weight penalty of a claymoar is not a playstyle tradeoff- >with a claymoar the fury wont need to get so close and personal, but would lose 50% speed on all recharge : AF & DC (priming) drop from 2.46s to 4.32s and from being able to throw every 1.23s to every 2.16s.
Multiply it for plat by 4.3875 damage and u got some serious damage dynamite in that lady.

Continuous Total time for prime and detonate drops from 3.39s to 6.48s overall (197% slower), which can be partially negated through reload cancelling every 1.04s but then only for small maps where bosses are close and you are consistently gud with reloading, aiming & shooting as Deerber or Nat.

So what you win on the mooks you lose on being closer to bosses and minibosses to let the claymoar do some talking.

Just 4 ref 4 those quantitively inclined : (source corlist)
Combo damage =
(Minimum damage + (Maximum damage - Minimum damage) / 10 * (combo level - 2)) * difficulty scaling * combo damage bonus * combo damage bonus


It was more a pun than anything else, actually.

But if you're interested in using a Claymore on the Fury, you should take all the available cooldown bonus evolutions, possibly including the one which is gonna let you throw with no CD if you detonate a combo with it. This will help alleviate immensely that problem you are describing.

Besides, you calculations are skewed, in that AF doesn't need to be cast every time it primes, and noone's got time for that sucky power that is DC anyway, so the only cooldown that really matters is the throw one.

Personally, this is not my favorite playstyle with her, as I like to play in a more frantic way, so I use a Venom. But I've seen people play it like that and it works very good. It's just, ad you said, a bit less frantic and in-yo-face.

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On a Fury without any weight capacity bonus, as well as no rank recharge bonus, you need about 320 total weapon weight to get to around 15s cooldown on AF and DC, or more like 375 if on a relatively standard build.

 

I might try a Fury with Javelin and Spitfire tonight though.


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Hey guys, i just recently unlocked the N7 Fury and the recharge speed for her powers seems to be really high. I've got both AF and DC at a 15sec. recharge. But when i look at most videos and guides on youtube people have their recharge time at around 2 seconds. What am i doing wrong?

 

15s eh? You may want to unequip the Claymore (with omniblade) and Javelin and switch to a slightly lighter loadout. Just a thought.



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Try her with a Claymore, she'll love it.

She'd like a Venom even more. 


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It was more a pun than anything else,..


Arrr! Well thx 4 scraping off the barnacles off me bilge rat's rudder.

Yes. The glass canon is strung even more since the minimum total time to prime and detonate is even faster - the 90s AF allows a detonation every 1.23s, that is 73 mooks in 1.5 min!

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Yes, I nerfed her. Nerfed her good. Now get good.


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Olivia Wilde

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awesome necro..or given the op's post count, spam



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Be sure to put some points in her build